[neen]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I think this new game is an entirely new game. With three major games (Elder Scrolls, Fallout, and the unnanounced game), Bethesda will have developed a cycle that will allow them to release one game from each series on each generation of systems.

You act like that would be a good thing!

Bethesda's latest game, Fallout 3, was a new IP, to them anyway. Why would they want to try out yet another IP as well? If anything they'd want to get back to what they know for a change.

Besides, they have two games in development, and they only have two successful IPs. You do the math.

[CHANONE]

You act like that would be a good thing!

Bethesda's latest game, Fallout 3, was a new IP, to them anyway. Why would they want to try out yet another IP as well? If anything they'd want to get back to what they know for a change.

Besides, they have two games in development, and they only have two successful IPs. You do the math.

I thought they handed Fallout off to Obsidian. I see no point for them to continue if Obsidians going to.

[Chloe Lou]

I thought they handed Fallout off to Obsidian. I see no point for them to continue if Obsidians going to.

Obsidian was the first to hand off the Fallout series to Bethesda so they could do a Fallout game. Also Bethesda I think said they wanted to do Fallout 3 because they didn't want to be known just for the Elder Scrolls series. They wanted something new under thier belt. As we all know and are pretty sure, ESV is underway at Bethesda. I think Bethesda wanted to do Fallout 4 which might explain why Obsidian didn't call thier Fallout: New Vegas...Fallout 4. Maybe Fallout 4 is what Bethesda is pre-producting right now. Only time will tell.

[Ashley Campos]

You act like that would be a good thing!

Bethesda's latest game, Fallout 3, was a new IP, to them anyway. Why would they want to try out yet another IP as well? If anything they'd want to get back to what they know for a change.

Besides, they have two games in development, and they only have two successful IPs. You do the math.

When they announce their new project, I'll be sure to tell you "I told you so."

I want it to be a new Elder Scrolls, but I've had a gut feeling ever since Fallout 3 came out that Bethesda was going to develop another game. Here's my reasoning.

Bethesda does not want to become defined by the Elder Scrolls series. Much like an actor who stars in a hit comedy often repeats the same role in numerous, similar films, finds it difficult to find roles in more serious movies, Bethesda does not want to be stuck into just the Elder Scrolls.

Fallout 3 allowed them to have a 2nd game. A 3rd makes sense to me (again for the reason I already listed).

Lastly, Bethesda is becoming a bigger and bigger company every year. The more successful they become the larger they become and the more people they can hire. They will break their team up permanently into their big three, Fallout, Elder Scroll, and the new project.

I know I already said lastly, but lastly-lastly, Todd Howard said not to expect a new Elder Scrolls game in the "near future" about a year ago. In my estimation 2-3 years is the "near future" when speaking in Bethesda time. The Elder Scrolls will be, and will always be their bread and butter. They do not want to, nor have they ever released two games on the same console. The 360 has 2-3 years left. They'll release this new game in about a year or two. Then work will start on TESV, which will be for the "next" generation of systems. Again, I hope I'm wrong but I've always had a way of predicting things like this.

[xxLindsAffec]

When they announce their new project, I'll be sure to tell you "I told you so."

That's not a very nice thing to do. :cryvaultboy:

[Amy Cooper]

As much as I want another Elder Scrolls game, Bethesda produces some nice open-world games. I think I'd be happy even if it wasn't TES... I just really hope it is TES.

[Tai Scott]

When they announce their new project, I'll be sure to tell you "I told you so."

I want it to be a new Elder Scrolls, but I've had a gut feeling ever since Fallout 3 came out that Bethesda was going to develop another game. Here's my reasoning.

Bethesda does not want to become defined by the Elder Scrolls series. Much like an actor who stars in a hit comedy often repeats the same role in numerous, similar films, finds it difficult to find roles in more serious movies, Bethesda does not want to be stuck into just the Elder Scrolls.

Fallout 3 allowed them to have a 2nd game. A 3rd makes sense to me (again for the reason I already listed).

Lastly, Bethesda is becoming a bigger and bigger company every year. The more successful they become the larger they become and the more people they can hire. They will break their team up permanently into their big three, Fallout, Elder Scroll, and the new project.

I know I already said lastly, but lastly-lastly, Todd Howard said not to expect a new Elder Scrolls game in the "near future" about a year ago. In my estimation 2-3 years is the "near future" when speaking in Bethesda time. The Elder Scrolls will be, and will always be their bread and butter. They do not want to, nor have they ever released two games on the same console. The 360 has 2-3 years left. They'll release this new game in about a year or two. Then work will start on TESV, which will be for the "next" generation of systems. Again, I hope I'm wrong but I've always had a way of predicting things like this.

This thought crossed my mind a few times. I would still get the new game, whatever it will be.

[Mari martnez Martinez]

I thought they handed Fallout off to Obsidian. I see no point for them to continue if Obsidians going to.

No. Obsidian is making a spinoff game. If Bethesda truly handed it off to Obsidian, then why are they not making Fallout 4?

Obsidian was the first to hand off the Fallout series to Bethesda so they could do a Fallout game.

No. Interplay sold their rights to Fallout to Bethesda. Although many of Obsidian's employees worked at Interplay, they're two different companies.

When they announce their new project, I'll be sure to tell you "I told you so."

Only if we can do likewise to you.

Bethesda does not want to become defined by the Elder Scrolls series. Much like an actor who stars in a hit comedy often repeats the same role in numerous, similar films, finds it difficult to find roles in more serious movies, Bethesda does not want to be stuck into just the Elder Scrolls.

Why wouldn't they? Most developers would want nothing more than to develop an extremely successful series that they can return to repeatedly. It's what puts them on the map and their best hope for longevity as a company. Sorry to ruin your anology, but being a game developer doesn't operate the same way as an actor's career.

I know I already said lastly, but lastly-lastly, Todd Howard said not to expect a new Elder Scrolls game in the "near future" about a year ago. In my estimation 2-3 years is the "near future" when speaking in Bethesda time. The Elder Scrolls will be, and will always be their bread and butter. They do not want to, nor have they ever released two games on the same console. The 360 has 2-3 years left. They'll release this new game in about a year or two. Then work will start on TESV, which will be for the "next" generation of systems.

Not to burst your bubble, but from when that comment was made to when we can reasonably expect their secret game to be released will probably be close to 2 years - so you're right in one sense, but not really.

They do not want to, nor have they ever released two games on the same console.

Do you mean two games from the same series? Because Oblivion, Fallout 3, and their next game will all be released on the same console generation. And how do you know they don't want to do this anyway?

Again, I hope I'm wrong but I've always had a way of predicting things like this.

Such as...?

[Jade]

This thought crossed my mind a few times. I would still get the new game, whatever it will be.

Oh, me too. I'll buy it, whatever it is.

The whole thing, for whatever reason reminds me of Bio Ware and KOTOR. Everyone wanted Bio Ware to do KOTOR 2, but they started to develop a new project, one called Mass Effect. That worked out all right by me.

[Amy Smith]

I thought they handed Fallout off to Obsidian. I see no point for them to continue if Obsidians going to.

They didn't hand it off at all. They simply let Obsidian do a Fallout game while they focused on their current, not Fallout game. Bethesda has already confirmed that they want to make multiple Fallouts, and never did they say "We want to let someone else make multiple Fallouts." Fallout is still Bethesda's and Obsidian has no actual control over the series except with the one game Bethesda is currently allowing them to make.

When they announce their new project, I'll be sure to tell you "I told you so."

That would be a rather immature thing to do but whatever floats your boat I guess. :shrug:

I want it to be a new Elder Scrolls, but I've had a gut feeling ever since Fallout 3 came out that Bethesda was going to develop another game. Here's my reasoning.

Bethesda does not want to become defined by the Elder Scrolls series. Much like an actor who stars in a hit comedy often repeats the same role in numerous, similar films, finds it difficult to find roles in more serious movies, Bethesda does not want to be stuck into just the Elder Scrolls.

Fallout 3 allowed them to have a 2nd game. A 3rd makes sense to me (again for the reason I already listed).

Lastly, Bethesda is becoming a bigger and bigger company every year. The more successful they become the larger they become and the more people they can hire. They will break their team up permanently into their big three, Fallout, Elder Scroll, and the new project.

I know I already said lastly, but lastly-lastly, Todd Howard said not to expect a new Elder Scrolls game in the "near future" about a year ago. In my estimation 2-3 years is the "near future" when speaking in Bethesda time. The Elder Scrolls will be, and will always be their bread and butter. They do not want to, nor have they ever released two games on the same console. The 360 has 2-3 years left. They'll release this new game in about a year or two. Then work will start on TESV, which will be for the "next" generation of systems. Again, I hope I'm wrong but I've always had a way of predicting things like this.

They only have 90 people to devote to their current project right now. While Bethesda Softworks may be getting larger, the development team at Bethesda is not large enough to handle 3 games, if they want to release all three games in a timely fashion, of course. As for your comment on how they don't want to release two games on the same console... you're essentially saying Bethesda doesn't like making as much money as it could. Bethesda is a business, and they don't have the luxury of waiting to release 1 new TES game every generation. And considering how long this current generation is, the next generation will be even longer and even if they wanted to, it would make no financial or logical sense to release 1 TES every generation. I've never seen anyone from Bethesda say they didn't want to just be known as "that TES developer," but even if they did say that, guess what, now they have Fallout. Fallout has made them not just a TES developer. A developer not wanting to be known for a single series is one thing, but releasing a third IP just to avoid being known for two successful titles? That just sounds ridiculous to me.

[Motionsharp]

Seems Gagnons already got some responses, and I'd just like to throw my two cents in there.

Everything you said might have made sense before Fallout 3 was released. However, it was not because they did not want to be "known" for the Elderscrolls, it's because they got bored themselves of doing the same game every couple years. An actor has to make personal choices, a company has to make choices for it's employees, it's stockholders, hundreds of people. Making a game that's sure to sell a million copies simply for belonging to a particular series is a sure thing.

And as far as "near future" being 2 or 3 years...I don't buy it. For one, I would consider near future 6 months to a year. Second of all, it's not something that can really be assigned a numerical value by anyone, unlike saying "a couple of years."

This has been my theory for a while now. TES V is overdue. It was delayed by the artistic and business decision by Bethesda to produce Fallout. What this means to me is that 1) The new game will be announced in the near future (heh) and 2) It will be released within a year of it's announcement. Recent statements by Todd Howard seem to corroborate this conjecture.

[Czar Kahchi]

Good thing Gagnon came here and proved all of our TESV theories wrong with his "sense" of what Beth's next game will be! Close the thread mods, why bother speculating on a game that won't be out for a long time!

[Channing]

This whole thing about the new IP reminds me back when that one guy came in and said he had inside sources that the next game was gonna be on next gen consoles. That was proven wrong and this probably will too, but I could be wrong ya never know. :shrug:

[biiibi]

good lord, where the hell is this game.

you dropped Oblivion on me in 2006 and I'd never heard of gamesas.

I wasted an entire summer playing Oblivion. I played it twice.

I love you guys, but please take some more amphetamines and get me this game sometime next year?

That being said, please don't activision this series.

I'd rather see the game arrive in 2020 than to have anything like what happens to a game once activision or EA get their hands on it.

I should thank Zenimax I suppose, for not being a complete money driven destroyer of anything fun.

[ILy- Forver]

good lord, where the hell is this game.

you dropped Oblivion on me in 2006 and I'd never heard of gamesas.

I wasted an entire summer playing Oblivion. I played it twice.

I love you guys, but please take some more amphetamines and get me this game sometime next year?

That being said, please don't activision this series.

I'd rather see the game arrive in 2020 than to have anything like what happens to a game once activision or EA get their hands on it.

I should thank Zenimax I suppose, for not being a complete money driven destroyer of anything fun.

Yea i believe this is a speculation thread not a give me my game now thread...

[Adam]

They didn't hand it off at all. They simply let Obsidian do a Fallout game while they focused on their current, not Fallout game. Bethesda has already confirmed that they want to make multiple Fallouts, and never did they say "We want to let someone else make multiple Fallouts." Fallout is still Bethesda's and Obsidian has no actual control over the series except with the one game Bethesda is currently allowing them to make.



That would be a rather immature thing to do but whatever floats your boat I guess. :shrug:



They only have 90 people to devote to their current project right now. While Bethesda Softworks may be getting larger, the development team at Bethesda is not large enough to handle 3 games, if they want to release all three games in a timely fashion, of course. As for your comment on how they don't want to release two games on the same console... you're essentially saying Bethesda doesn't like making as much money as it could. Bethesda is a business, and they don't have the luxury of waiting to release 1 new TES game every generation. And considering how long this current generation is, the next generation will be even longer and even if they wanted to, it would make no financial or logical sense to release 1 TES every generation. I've never seen anyone from Bethesda say they didn't want to just be known as "that TES developer," but even if they did say that, guess what, now they have Fallout. Fallout has made them not just a TES developer. A developer not wanting to be known for a single series is one thing, but releasing a third IP just to avoid being known for two successful titles? That just sounds ridiculous to me.

Sorry i haven't been here for a couple days to take the load off from the people not quite understanding but glad you could handle it lol. We had a pretty good team going for awhile :foodndrink:

[Leanne Molloy]

This whole thing about the new IP reminds me back when that one guy came in and said he had inside sources that the next game was gonna be on next gen consoles. That was proven wrong and this probably will too, but I could be wrong ya never know. :shrug:

Kinda reminds you of the 'end of the world' theories, there's a chance it could happen, and there's a chance all the experts and people who actually keep up with the latest information are wrong, but sometimes its better to listen to people who can make theories that fit together, rather than those decided by a 'feeling'.

[benjamin corsini]

Gagnon, you said that because Elder Scrolls is Bethesda's main franchise that means they wont want to release 2 games on the same generation.......... ok. The big reveal isn't far off now anyway.

[Amber Hubbard]

This whole thing about the new IP reminds me back when that one guy came in and said he had inside sources that the next game was gonna be on next gen consoles. That was proven wrong and this probably will too, but I could be wrong ya never know. :shrug:

Well, there's no proof it's not a new IP any more than there was proof it wouldn't be on next-gen consoles, but there is a copyright floating around for Skyrim, which I'd consider proof of a TES game in development, and they've said that while it'll "feel" like a next-gen game it'll be on current-gen hardware, which I take as proof this secret project is on current gen stuff.

If Gagnon's got a gut feeling, let him have his gut feeling. I think he's wrong based on the copyright and the timeline.

[Bloomer]

For all those saying that the soon-to-be-revealed game is not TESV:

1) There are current trademarks for clothes, manuals, games, etc., for SKYRIM. This is a province in the TES world. It would not make sense to have these trademarks if they were not going to use them. The company said that they "use the trademarks to protect their rights to it" or something to that effect, but that begs the question "why haven't you marked Black Marsh, Hammerfall, etc.?" They intend to make a game set in Skyrim.

2) The Paul Oughton quote. He said that we should expect "A new TES game in 2010." If you take into account the revamp of the game engine and some delays (classic), the quote points to a TES game in 2011 (possibly announced in 2010).

3) In his interview with Eurogamer, Howard said that Beth likes doing what it does. This leads me to believe that it is a game that it has done in the past. It would make little sense to make another FO game after they just made FO3 and they allowed Obsidian to make FONV (if they wanted to make another FO game, why give Obsidian the go ahead?), so this game will be TESV.

4) Howard has said in the past that the Elder Scrolls series is extremely popular. They will make another. Seeing as how TESV is greatly anticipated without even being announced, and since they just extended their IP repertoire to 2 games, now is the perfect time for TESV.

Sorry, but the new game will not be a new IP. It will be TESV.

[Harry Leon]

For all those saying that the soon-to-be-revealed game is not TESV:

1) There are current trademarks for clothes, manuals, games, etc., for SKYRIM. This is a province in the TES world. It would not make sense to have these trademarks if they were not going to use them. The company said that they "use the trademarks to protect their rights to it" or something to that effect, but that begs the question "why haven't you marked Black Marsh, Hammerfall, etc.?" They intend to make a game set in Skyrim.

2) The Paul Oughton quote. He said that we should expect "A new TES game in 2010." If you take into account the revamp of the game engine and some delays (classic), the quote points to a TES game in 2011 (possibly announced in 2010).

3) In his interview with Eurogamer, Howard said that Beth likes doing what it does. This leads me to believe that it is a game that it has done in the past. It would make little sense to make another FO game after they just made FO3 and they allowed Obsidian to make FONV (if they wanted to make another FO game, why give Obsidian the go ahead?), so this game will be TESV.

4) Howard has said in the past that the Elder Scrolls series is extremely popular. They will make another. Seeing as how TESV is greatly anticipated without even being announced, and since they just extended their IP repertoire to 2 games, now is the perfect time for TESV.

Sorry, but the new game will not be a new IP. It will be TESV.

Thank you for giving me hope again! :intergalactic: Beth's ''Magic Months'' are the months that are coming now, right? I really hope they announce it this year and that its going to be released in 2011...

[TASTY TRACY]

Thank you for giving me hope again! :intergalactic: Beth's ''Magic Months'' are the months that are coming now, right? I really hope they announce it this year and that its going to be released in 2011...

Yep, the soonest couple of months are September through November, and next year March.

[Jack]

A 2011 release is extremely likely imo. Plus with the short time between announcement - release it will be good if they are constantly feeding us information every month or so.

[Ricky Rayner]

For all those saying that the soon-to-be-revealed game is not TESV:

1) There are current trademarks for clothes, manuals, games, etc., for SKYRIM. This is a province in the TES world. It would not make sense to have these trademarks if they were not going to use them. The company said that they "use the trademarks to protect their rights to it" or something to that effect, but that begs the question "why haven't you marked Black Marsh, Hammerfall, etc.?" They intend to make a game set in Skyrim.

2) The Paul Oughton quote. He said that we should expect "A new TES game in 2010." If you take into account the revamp of the game engine and some delays (classic), the quote points to a TES game in 2011 (possibly announced in 2010).

3) In his interview with Eurogamer, Howard said that Beth likes doing what it does. This leads me to believe that it is a game that it has done in the past. It would make little sense to make another FO game after they just made FO3 and they allowed Obsidian to make FONV (if they wanted to make another FO game, why give Obsidian the go ahead?), so this game will be TESV.

4) Howard has said in the past that the Elder Scrolls series is extremely popular. They will make another. Seeing as how TESV is greatly anticipated without even being announced, and since they just extended their IP repertoire to 2 games, now is the perfect time for TESV.

Sorry, but the new game will not be a new IP. It will be TESV.

The traidmark for Skyrim could be for TES Online.

[Antonio Gigliotta]

The traidmark for Skyrim could be for TES Online.

Maybe, but if they are making an MMO of TES it would most certainly be in all of Tamriel, not just Skyrim.