[Josephine Gowing]

I don't think we should be speculating based on the graqevine. My graqevine tells me the game will be out late '11 early '12 and will heavily feature Atmora. Anyone want to believe that?

What kinda graqes are you growing? I do want to believe that, let us take your graqes and make wine to drink with.

[Louise Dennis]

Does anyone think they are going to bring back the real radiant AI and actually pull it off this time or will they just make a couple modifications to the current system like they did from Oblivion to Fallout 3?

[i grind hard]

Does anyone think they are going to bring back the real radiant AI and actually pull it off this time or will they just make a couple modifications to the current system like they did from Oblivion to Fallout 3?

I personally hope they can make it work, the AI really needs to be improved.

[Dawn Porter]

Can someone explain why there's all this talk of two provinces? what caused it?

[Andres Lechuga]

Can someone explain why there's all this talk of two provinces? what caused it?

Nothing, it's just something to talk/speculate about. We've said all there really is to say in regards to the Eurogamer interview, so we've got to talk about something. :shrug:

[lauren cleaves]

Can someone explain why there's all this talk of two provinces? what caused it?

Because we are super greedy and don't believe that one province is enough.

Some would say that we are spoiled...

[Jonathan Braz]

Either I'm missing something or this "No Word Mark" thing isn't all it's cracked up to be. Oblivion was announced September 10th, 2004. There is a No Word Mark that was filed on September 1st and 3rd, 2004. Okay, that seems interesting. But the countdown to announce Oblivion was revealed on http://pc.ign.com/articles/544/544157p1.html. Yes, at first glance that seems like we'd know a day in advance, but the USTPO online database does not update every day. It usually takes 3-4 days. Meaning unless we were incredibly lucky and they updated the database the same day the No Word Mark is filed, we wouldn't know about it until after an announcement.

But I looked at the other No Word Mark Zenimax has, for Fallout. That was filed on November 20, 2008, which obviously is far after the announcement, and far after the release. So I went and looked at Bethesda's trademarks. Not that it matters because Bethesda's announcement was when they bought the license. But lets use the month they first showed off the game, July 2007. Well, there are a lot of No Word Marks in April 2007, but that isn't exactly close to July. As for Morrowind, there are no No Word Marks for it.

So this whole No Word Mark appearing before an announcement thing only happened with Oblivion, and it's obvious that Bethesda filed the trademark in a strategic manner so that nobody would know until they put up the timer, due to the database not updating every day. I'm just saying, looking for a No Word Mark seems kind of pointless when you consider that even if, by some miracle, the database updates and we can see it before their announcement, it would only be a day before. And that's a big if.

[dean Cutler]

long-term - quakecon 2011 announcement, e3 2012 debut, ride the hype train through quakecon, gamescom, gamecon etc. with an october 2012 release.

short-term - early 2011 announcement, e3 2011 debut, quakecon hype train, october 2011 release.

Bethesda prefers to unveil a game at the same time as announcing it, when they do announce a game early it's because there is an agreement with another company which has to be announced (as in the case of Fallout 3 and New Vegas). Morrowind's expansions, Oblivion, and Shivering Isles were all unveiled along with their announcement and I'd expect the same for Bethesda's next project. As such I don't see an announcement at one event and a "debut" at another.

QuakeCon is more or less their own personal convention, though. they've never announced at E3 because it would inevitably be lost in the mire of all the other stuff that comes out of that; there's no risk of that at all at QuakeCon.

I think it's extremely unlikely that they'd unveil their own project at QuakeCon 2011 since Doom 4 is almost certainly going to debut at that event. Unveiling TES V or some other game at the same time would draw attention away from Id's projects. Even if Doom 4 debuts before then I imagine the QuakeCon spotlight will be firmly directed on it and RAGE.

This isn't to say we couldn't see a Bethesda game unveiled at QuakeCon, I think that's certainly a possibility in the future, but I don't see them doing this if id wants to do the same.

with history as a guide, do you really think they can actually churn out a game in three years? do you WANT them to churn out a game in three years?

About 9-12 months before Oblivion was released Bethesda Game Studios about doubled in size. This allowed them to get Fallout 3 mostly through pre-production while also finishing up Oblivion. Bethesda also has the ability to put everyone (or most everyone) on to one project if they want, something Fallout 3 no doubt benefited from for a short period and this upcoming game has gotten for much longer.

[Isabell Hoffmann]

I take a wild guess that it could very well be Skyrim with a "Shivering Isle" size DLC/expansion of High Rock.. :celebration:

[Tai Scott]

A response to the whole one province / two province thing, just because a province is featured in the game doesn't mean it needs to be featured in its entirety. TES II contained part of High Rock and part of Hammerfell, TES III included part of Morrowind, only TES IV included an entire province (or close to it).

We all know that Skyrim was mentioned in Oblivion but I thought I heard talk about some crap going down in High Rock as well.

There's random NPC pvssyr about most of the provinces though. I suppose one of the provinces mentioned is more likely than one not mentioned but that doesn't narrow things down much.

It feels like we have been saying this stuff on the past three threads...

This is a very repetitive topic but at least it isn't all hung up about a GameInformer cover preview at the moment

[Umpyre Records]

I think it's extremely unlikely that they'd unveil their own project at QuakeCon 2011 since Doom 4 is almost certainly going to debut at that event. Unveiling TES V or some other game at the same time would draw attention away from Id's projects.

I'd say that they don't want a reveal at QuakeCon for the entirely opposite reason. The folks who go to QuakeCon are there to play FPS games, and TESV, while receiving a warm welcome by a large number of people at the event, would probably be met with a tremendous "meh" by the majority. It would be like announcing that the Yankees are building a new stadium during a Lakers game.

[kelly thomson]

Because we are super greedy and don't believe that one province is enough.

Some would say that we are spoiled...

We are far from spoiled lol, i think we can all agree who the spoiled ones are at the moment *cough FALLOUT cough*

[Lexy Dick]

On the whole one or two providence thing, If they make it just one providence or two the size of say Cyrodil or maybe a little bigger, then i say it will be one hell of a game. But if they try to do two whole providences at once unless there engine is a complete beast i think there would definately dissapointment amongst fans.

And everyone saying the whole timeline thing stuff, Todd has already stated that it will be the quickest turn around in TES history from announcement to release. It was also said that it was ready to be released now but Pete said not to yet. If that is the case it is probably fairly close now, especially with the bigger staff at BGS. Which is why some of us are saying that an announcement before year end of 2010 and release by end of 2011, my guess in months 9-12.

Please read the interviews and previous points before asking questions like "where are you getting this information?". Thank you.

[djimi]

On the whole one or two providence thing, If they make it just one providence or two the size of say Cyrodil or maybe a little bigger, then i say it will be one hell of a game. But if they try to do two whole providences at once unless there engine is a complete beast i think there would definately dissapointment amongst fans.

And everyone saying the whole timeline thing stuff, Todd has already stated that it will be the quickest turn around in TES history from announcement to release. It was also said that it was ready to be announced now but Pete said not to yet. If that is the case it is probably fairly close now, especially with the bigger staff at BGS. Which is why some of us are saying that an announcement before year end of 2010 and release by end of 2011, my guess in months 9-12.

Please read the interviews and previous points before asking questions like "where are you getting this information?". Thank you.

Fixed it.

[Kaley X]

On the whole one or two providence thing, If they make it just one providence or two the size of say Cyrodil or maybe a little bigger, then i say it will be one hell of a game. But if they try to do two whole providences at once unless there engine is a complete beast i think there would definately dissapointment amongst fans.

And everyone saying the whole timeline thing stuff, Todd has already stated that it will be the quickest turn around in TES history from announcement to release. It was also said that it was ready to be released now but Pete said not to yet. If that is the case it is probably fairly close now, especially with the bigger staff at BGS. Which is why some of us are saying that an announcement before year end of 2010 and release by end of 2011, my guess in months 9-12.

Please read the interviews and previous points before asking questions like "where are you getting this information?". Thank you.

Wait... you want people to read the first post before posting...? :blink:

You must be crazy.

[Shannon Lockwood]

Wait... you want people to read the first post before posting...? :blink:

You must be crazy.

Yeah, i know it's crazy to think that people actually might read and really know whats going on before posting their ignorence.
I don't mind the people with a different view of the timeline, that's fine this is a speculation thread, but stop asking where the information came from lol. You can read the last three pages and find out if you didnt want to read the interview

[alicia hillier]

I have been watching this speculation forum every day for about the last 4 months, and I dig reading all the different views, especially in light of all the new interviews! Keep the speculation coming!

Anywho.. I think Bethesda has a very detailed and carefully timed communication plan for the TESV release. I think the 2nd book release is part of the marketing strategy, so I am looking forward to seeing it soon. (Have you noticed how oddly quite Bethesda Greg Keys, and Del Rey publishing have been on the 2nd book? How could it not be part of the release plan?) I think it makes sense to first announce the game, then release the book shortly afterwards in order to keep the excitement going.

I speculate the announcement and book release will be Nov/Dec 2010, then a game release Nov/Dec 2011

[Ashley Clifft]

I have been watching this speculation forum every day for about the last 4 months, and I dig reading all the different views, especially in light of all the new interviews! Keep the speculation coming!

Anywho.. I think Bethesda has a very detailed and carefully timed communication plan for the TESV release. I think the 2nd book release is part of the marketing strategy, so I am looking forward to seeing it soon. (Have you noticed how oddly quite Bethesda Greg Keys, and Del Rey publishing have been on the 2nd book? How could it not be part of the release plan?) I think it makes sense to first announce the game, then release the book shortly afterwards in order to keep the excitement going.

I speculate the announcement and book release will be Nov/Dec 2010, then a game release Nov/Dec 2011

I'm almost the exact opposite in respect to the book timing vs. game timing. The game will sell like a beast, and I think Bethesda knows that, in fact I'm sure they do. But the books aren't such a sure thing. If they release the game and then announce the book after say a few months, pretty much everyone who's going to play the game that isn't specifically waiting for the GOTY edition (assuming they make one and there is a delay from vanilla and GOTY edition) will have experience the next game and, assuming all goes well, will be more inclined to buy the book to read deeper into the lore, which I think Bethesda wants to knock out of the park in TESV. Depending on what they're releasing around the holidays, I think the announcement will probably be made after the Christmas rush, probably late january or february and plan on a summer release date. I just don't see them waiting until NEXT Christmas to release it, especially considering summer games still sell very well with everyone who's in school with nothing to do over the summer.

[naana]

I'm almost the exact opposite in respect to the book timing vs. game timing. The game will sell like a beast, and I think Bethesda knows that, in fact I'm sure they do. But the books aren't such a sure thing. If they release the game and then announce the book after say a few months, pretty much everyone who's going to play the game that isn't specifically waiting for the GOTY edition (assuming they make one and there is a delay from vanilla and GOTY edition) will have experience the next game and, assuming all goes well, will be more inclined to buy the book to read deeper into the lore, which I think Bethesda wants to knock out of the park in TESV. Depending on what they're releasing around the holidays, I think the announcement will probably be made after the Christmas rush, probably late january or february and plan on a summer release date. I just don't see them waiting until NEXT Christmas to release it, especially considering summer games still sell very well with everyone who's in school with nothing to do over the summer.

The two books bridge the gap between TES IV and TES V. Releasing the second book after the game is released is tantamount to releasing a hypothetical third book before the second one was even released. They'll definitely release the book before TES V, I'm certain of that.

[Mackenzie]

Not sure if anyone else has spotted this, but i just noticed another little tidbit from the pages of Australian GI "Sony says that developers are working on Playstation 4" That is the entire quote in the Bitesize coloumn.

I have been reading this speculation thread for a few months now, and have not seen this mentioned. It also seems a little ambiguous, does that mean Sony developers are working on it, or has it already gone out to external developers? And does this mean anything for TESV??

[Da Missz]

Not sure if anyone else has spotted this, but i just noticed another little tidbit from the pages of Australian GI "Sony says that developers are working on Playstation 4" That is the entire quote in the Bitesize coloumn.

I have been reading this speculation thread for a few months now, and have not seen this mentioned. It also seems a little ambiguous, does that mean Sony developers are working on it, or has it already gone out to external developers? And does this mean anything for TESV??

Todd Howard already said his latest project is NOT next gen. No offense to you, you were just asking... that question was just beat to death on here.

[luis dejesus]

Not sure if anyone else has spotted this, but i just noticed another little tidbit from the pages of Australian GI "Sony says that developers are working on Playstation 4" That is the entire quote in the Bitesize coloumn.

I have been reading this speculation thread for a few months now, and have not seen this mentioned. It also seems a little ambiguous, does that mean Sony developers are working on it, or has it already gone out to external developers? And does this mean anything for TESV??

Microsoft stated a while back that the thier next gen xbox (Xbox 720 some people call it) has been in development evere since before the 360's even hit the shelves and Im sure Nintendo has thiers in development too.

[Mr. Ray]

@ menes40 - none taken. But, in the previous threads on here, there did not seem to be any conformation that the PS4 was even in development. If i missed that I apologise, and please :foodndrink: have one on me.

So that may mean that the project, in early development (Probably FO4), could possibly be a launch or close to launch title for the PS4?

Back to TESV Speculation, I do hope, and beleive that an announcement will be made this year, with a release sometime 2011.

I am also curious as to the machine specs we will need to run TESV. I know we have absolutely no information in this regard, but I hope it is a little more freindly than TESIV, which seemed to bring all but the latest machines (at the time) to their knees.

[clelia vega]

I am also curious as to the machine specs we will need to run TESV. I know we have absolutely no information in this regard, but I hope it is a little more freindly than TESIV, which seemed to bring all but the latest machines (at the time) to their knees.

Well, Mass Effect 2 ran a lot better than the first Mass Effect on my computer, and this is regarding the fact that I bought the two together and ran them under the same specs. Oblivion was also badly optimized, so if Bethesda manages to pull off TES: V quite well, then we'll have less to worry about.

[JESSE]

Well, Mass Effect 2 ran a lot better than the first Mass Effect on my computer, and this is regarding the fact that I bought the two together and ran them under the same specs. Oblivion was also badly optimized, so if Bethesda manages to pull off TES: V quite well, then we'll have less to worry about.

Fallout 3 ran smoother than Oblivion, I think, yet it had far superior graphics and definitely more polygons on screen with the ruins if Washington D.C.