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And that is the exact reason why I don't think they will make any such announcements before the sale of New Vegas has peaked. Bethesda has spent a lot of time the last few months on New Vegas PR, and they are not going to let a TES V announcement overshadow that. New Vegas will be all Bethesda is talking about this fall, and if they plan on releasing DLCs early next year, then I fear that will delay the annoucement even further.

The release of NV is one thing, the DLCs are another. They may want to delay an announcement for 1, maybe even 2 months after NV is released, but DLC? DLC wont stop them. They can very easily hype up a DLC and hype up TES V at the same time.

People need to stop thinking every little thing is going to prevent Bethesda from announcing this game. They aren't a tiny little indie developer about to release their first game, this is Bethesda, and this is The Elder Scrolls. Some things, such as New Vegas, may very well delay their announcement, but little things, such as DLC for New Vegas, or the release of Popular Game A or B or C, will not matter nearly as much to them.

[Vicki Blondie]

Also take into account RPG's aren't in competition with each other, did anybody get a chance to read this interview from CD Projekt, if not I would check it out as he makes a very good point.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-10-03-witcher-2-dev-rpgs-not-in-competition

[Raymond J. Ramirez]

People need to stop thinking every little thing is going to prevent Bethesda from announcing this game. They aren't a tiny little indie developer about to release their first game, this is Bethesda, and this is The Elder Scrolls. Some things, such as New Vegas, may very well delay their announcement, but little things, such as DLC for New Vegas, or the release of Popular Game A or B or C, will not matter nearly as much to them.

I do hope you are right. I just don't want to get my hopes up.

[Laurenn Doylee]

NV, Brink, Rage and Hunted. I think they'll manage to juggle TES with a DLC next.

[Shaylee Shaw]

Well think about it. New Vegas is a spin-off to a series that they develop, therefore they have a vested interest in seeing it do well, at least as compared to Hunted and Brink, since if it doesn't sell it may effect the initial response to future Fallout games. That, along with the closeness of its release, is the reason it has been so heavily advertised. Once that's over, most of their marketing department will have a lot more time on their hands. That means, to get their money's worth for those paychecks, they may actively want to announce any new title soon after to keep them from being idle.

[Rik Douglas]

People need to stop thinking every little thing is going to prevent Bethesda from announcing this game. They aren't a tiny little indie developer about to release their first game, this is Bethesda, and this is The Elder Scrolls. Some things, such as New Vegas, may very well delay their announcement, but little things, such as DLC for New Vegas, or the release of Popular Game A or B or C, will not matter nearly as much to them.

Nope, I dont believe you. Bethesda is a money making buisness corporation as are EA and they will do everything in thier power to ensure they get the maximum income they can in the first few weeks of release, and this includes holding their game off for as long as they deem necessary. This is also why it hasnt been announced yet.

In just a few weeks the over hyped Spore became more pirated then The Sims. And then 6 months later nobody cared. I will not be buying Spore 2.

[Beth Belcher]

Nope, I dont believe you. Bethesda is a money making buisness corporation as are EA and they will do everything in thier power to ensure they get the maximum income they can in the first few weeks of release, and this includes holding their game off for as long as they deem necessary. This is also why it hasnt been announced yet.

In just a few weeks the over hyped Spore became more pirated then The Sims. And then 6 months later nobody cared. I will not be buying Spore 2.

I never said they don't care about money, what I did say is that they aren't afraid of every little factor like people seem to like to suggest here. Bethesda will definitely try to release the game at the best possible date for income, but the way people talk in this thread makes it seem like they think Bethesda will delay the release every time another popular game is to be released around the same time. As for it not being announced yet, New Vegas is the only thing stopping them, if it even is stopping them at all. After the hype dies down for that they have nothing stopping them, save for Blizzcon, from announcing the game whenever they please.

[Dean Brown]

I don't want to offend, but that is a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuge stretch of the imagination, even ignoring the fact that TES V will most definitely be multi-platform and not exclusive to the Xbox 360. Gears of War 3, hell, any game being delayed that isn't being published by Bethesda themselves has nothing to do with TES V.

oh i realized that but the thought just occurred to me... however i have no doubt that TES-V will be 360 exclusive on launch and later ported to ps3... ps3 wont be a launch system just as it wasn't for oblivion

[Lizs]

oh i realized that but the thought just occurred to me... however i have no doubt that TES-V will be 360 exclusive on launch and later ported to ps3... ps3 wont be a launch system just as it wasn't for oblivion

Fallout 3 was on the PS3 at launch so there's no reason TES V shouldn't be as well. I don't even think the PS3 was out yet when Oblivion was released, hence the release a year a later.

No, it'll be released on each of the big 3 current systems (PC, X360, and PS3) from day 1.

[Cat]

oh i realized that but the thought just occurred to me... however i have no doubt that TES-V will be 360 exclusive on launch and later ported to ps3... ps3 wont be a launch system just as it wasn't for oblivion

I guarantee that won't happen. It'll be released on all 3 platforms at the same time. You do realize that when Oblivion was released, the PS3 didn't exist right?

[Mylizards Dot com]

oh i realized that but the thought just occurred to me... however i have no doubt that TES-V will be 360 exclusive on launch and later ported to ps3... ps3 wont be a launch system just as it wasn't for oblivion

For the info, Oblivion was planned to be launched with 360 and PS3. But when it became clear that PS3 was going to be release after oblivion relase date, it was cancelled. But at the moment PS3 was released (like a year after) so was the PS3 version of Oblivion. And if my memory is correct, Oblivion remain for several weeks if not months in the top 10 seller for PS3. So that's says it all about the popularity of the game at the time.

[Amie Mccubbing]

PS3 only wasn't a launch system because it wasn't out at the time. I'd be willing to bet it will be a simultaneous release for PCs, 360s and PS3s.

[Emma]

In just a few weeks the over hyped Spore became more pirated then The Sims. And then 6 months later nobody cared. I will not be buying Spore 2.

You might be forgetting that the reason this happened was that A] EA crapped on the game with an illegal DRM, and many people pirated the game to show them that people who LEGALLY purchase games don't want to be treated like criminals, especially behind their backs, and B] EA had already castrated the game from the beginning, by forcing Maxis to make the game "cutsey" and trying to make the transitions between life stages more dramatic and less gradual, because that would be more marketable.

If EA has learned their lesson (I've noticed an improvement in their business practices since the game was first released) then they will let Maxis DO THEIR THING with Spore 2.




On topic, I just want to say that I am glad gamesas is making the move of holding off an official announcement untill the game is presentable. This means that the game won't have been developed under pressure to meet a deadline, and they will be able to implement all the features they want to. I want the prefect Elder Scrolls game, one with all the depth of Morrowind, the combat of Oblivion, the size of Daggerfall, and the animation quality of GTAIV. A fellow can dream, can't he?

[Jennie Skeletons]

You might be forgetting that the reason this happened was that A] EA crapped on the game with an illegal DRM, and many people pirated the game to show them that people who LEGALLY purchase games don't want to be treated like criminals, especially behind their backs, and B] EA had already castrated the game from the beginning, by forcing Maxis to make the game "cutsey" and trying to make the transitions between life stages more dramatic and less gradual, because that would be more marketable.

If EA has learned their lesson (I've noticed an improvement in their business practices since the game was first released) then they will let Maxis DO THEIR THING with Spore 2.




On topic, I just want to say that I am glad gamesas is making the move of holding off an official announcement untill the game is presentable. This means that the game won't have been developed under pressure to meet a deadline, and they will be able to implement all the features they want to. I want the prefect Elder Scrolls game, one with all the depth of Morrowind, the combat of Oblivion, the size of Daggerfall, and the animation quality of GTAIV. A fellow can dream, can't he?

Except for in the Eurogamer interview Todd said that there's a lot of game to show and if they had to show it today he would be proud to. He didn't confirm of deny it as TESV but rather said that when Pete Hines says to show it that he would be ready to show it. He went as far to say there's way more stuff on the screen than oblivion and fall out 3 and that it's a HUGE step up from fall out 3. I wouldn't be surprised if he was using some of id tech five even though he is denying it. He said it should be announced soon and the shortest time from announcement to release ever. This means that they are just waiting for a marketing window to open so they can throw there resources behind it.

[Alex [AK]]

So I got an interesting message from Andrew Reiner today... Here's the conversation:

ME: "So when are you guys doing that Elder Scrolls V cover?"

ANDREW REINER: "Hmmmm. "

That happy face leads me to believe that GI already knows more than we do.

Here's a link to my GI profile so you can see for yourself: http://gameinformer.com/members/KimboFife/default.aspx

[Eibe Novy]

So I got an interesting message from Andrew Reiner today... Here's the conversation:

ME: "So when are you guys doing that Elder Scrolls V cover?"

ANDREW REINER: "Hmmmm. "

That happy face leads me to believe that GI already knows more than we do.

Here's a link to my GI profile so you can see for yourself: http://gameinformer.com/members/KimboFife/default.aspx

That's terrible, HOW DARE HE TEASE US FANS IN THAT MANNER! I SHALL NOT STAND FOR THAT TYPE OF TREACHERY!!!!! FOOOOOR THE FANS OF THE TES!!!! :swear:

So that must mean they already know when the announcement is going to happen, needs i gotta renew my game informer subscription :flame:

[Robert Bindley]

So I got an interesting message from Andrew Reiner today... Here's the conversation:

ME: "So when are you guys doing that Elder Scrolls V cover?"

ANDREW REINER: "Hmmmm. "

That happy face leads me to believe that GI already knows more than we do.

Here's a link to my GI profile so you can see for yourself: http://gameinformer.com/members/KimboFife/default.aspx

That's awasome !
Can't wait for TES V

[Patrick Gordon]

That's awasome !
Can't wait for TES V

Wow wow wow, calm down pal, that doesn't mean anything, whatsoever, take everything with a grain of salt...

[Rudi Carter]

Also take into account RPG's aren't in competition with each other, did anybody get a chance to read this interview from CD Projekt, if not I would check it out as he makes a very good point.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-10-03-witcher-2-dev-rpgs-not-in-competition

Yes I did read that a while ago. Good point, too.

Also, the GI cover tease... not sure how to interpret that, but I'd say we have another month or 2 before we get it.

[Gisela Amaya]

I personally am inclined to believe the GI guys are purposely being glib just to toy with us. They may know something, and I truly hope so, but this isn't the first time we've been here.

[Rodney C]

Yes I did read that a while ago. Good point, too.

Also, the GI cover tease... not sure how to interpret that, but I'd say we have another month or 2 before we get it.

Yeah, I think another two months is good speculation even if we somehow manage to get an announcement before it, I'm thinking they might reveal the next book for hype just before the announcement. In marketing everything is timed so it's just a wait and see game. All these rumors re probably based off of actual information even though they could be highly changed.

[Jeneene Hunte]

So I got an interesting message from Andrew Reiner today... Here's the conversation:

ME: "So when are you guys doing that Elder Scrolls V cover?"

ANDREW REINER: "Hmmmm. "

That happy face leads me to believe that GI already knows more than we do.

Here's a link to my GI profile so you can see for yourself: http://gameinformer.com/members/KimboFife/default.aspx

Reiner! My arch nemesis! Alas! Alas that I must trust to his word again! DAMN YOU!!!

Kidding, I got nothing against Reiner. Although I always figured that the GI staff now things beforehand by at least a little bit, but have signed affadavits to prevent the knowledge from leaking. So while he may know something about TESV, we won't know any earlier than the rest of the public.

Although maybe if I use my status as a gamestop employee I can try to pry something early from him...

EDIT: Nice, already sent me a friend request, Nannersaur? Anyway, my question's away. Notice that the last time someone went right up and asked a GI person if an upcoming cover was TESV they flat-out denied it. A smile and a "hmmm" is quite different, although the question wasn't "is this it?" but "when is it happening?"

EDIT PS: Reiner says we're reading too much into it.

[Jeneene Hunte]

Reiner! My arch nemesis! Alas! Alas that I must trust to his word again! DAMN YOU!!!

Kidding, I got nothing against Reiner. Although I always figured that the GI staff now things beforehand by at least a little bit, but have signed affadavits to prevent the knowledge from leaking. So while he may know something about TESV, we won't know any earlier than the rest of the public.

Although maybe if I use my status as a gamestop employee I can try to pry something early from him...

EDIT: Nice, already sent me a friend request, Nannersaur? Anyway, my question's away. Notice that the last time someone went right up and asked a GI person if an upcoming cover was TESV they flat-out denied it. A smile and a "hmmm" is quite different, although the question wasn't "is this it?" but "when is it happening?"

EDIT PS: Reiner says we're reading too much into it.

Update.

ME: "So when are you guys doing that Elder Scrolls V cover?"

ANDREW REINER: "Hmmmm. "

ME: "You guys know something, don't you?"

ANDREW REINER: "No. But I'd love to do it."

So who knows what GI knows or doesn't know. They're always pretty shady when talking about their future covers. Maybe Reiner knows more than we do and is just covering his butt, or maybe he's telling the truth. Personally, I think they know about Elder Scrolls V already. Usually when I ask them anything about TES V I don't even get a response...

[Becky Palmer]

Bethesda will announce it when they are ready, although I wouldn't mind hearing a slip or two about the project or whatever they are currently working on B)

[Heather Dawson]

Well, like I said in my blog post on GI, I can wait. I know that, with patience, I'll get what I'm waiting for. So here I am. Waiting. It could be next month or next year, I'll be here.