[Krystal Wilson]

Well, Reiner pretty much went ahead and said that this month's GI will not be it. So if you want you can expect a novel announcement, but that does fit in, either way, with the idea that they'll let the glamor and hype of New Vegas die down securely before making a move.

[Romy Welsch]

My speculation is that there won't be a TES V, in the traditional sense that we know them as.

Bethesda seems much happier taking old franchises and remodeling them, as well as publishing other companies games.

Bethesda Softworks, the publishing arm of the company, has expanded quite a bit recently. However that doesn't draw resources away from Bethesda Game Studies, the developement arm, and in fact they doubled in size near the end of Oblivion's development. Todd has confirmed that they have two games in development, one which is about ready to be unveiled and one that's still fairly new.

[^~LIL B0NE5~^]

Bethesda Softworks, the publishing arm of the company, has expanded quite a bit recently. However that doesn't draw resources away from Bethesda Game Studies, the developement arm, and in fact they doubled in size near the end of Oblivion's development. Todd has confirmed that they have two games in development, one which is about ready to be unveiled and one that's still fairly new.

Wait you've lost me here, did you say BGS is developing two games? Or have i misunderstood?

[[Bounty][Ben]]

A large part of what makes me excited for New Vegas, aside from the game itself, is that once New Vegas is released, the chances of them announcing TES V greatly increase. We all really just need to be patient for a while, because nothing is going to happen before New Vegas is released.

Also, stop contacting people from Game Informer, guys. As Stain said earlier, we've been through this before. Person A contacts GI or reads a tweet from GI, everyone here blows what GI said out of proportion, and we all get hyped up only for our hopes to get crushed. Stop contacting people from GI, and stop reading their tweets, because it doesn't do us any good.

Wait you've lost me here, did you say BGS is developing two games? Or have i misunderstood?

They are. One has been in development for 2 years, and the other is in pre-production. It's assumed the former is TES V and the latter is Fallout 4.

[Sxc-Mary]

They are. One has been in development for 2 years, and the other is in pre-production. It's assumed the former is TES V and the latter is Fallout 4.

Ahhh Fallout 4 I had completely forgotten about it! that does make sense!

[Nims]

Ahhh Fallout 4 I had completely forgotten about it! that does make sense!

Well frankly there is even less known about the "other" project since we only have half a sentence from Todd acknowledging that they have another project in pre-production. The assumption exists as it is the only other IP in recent history that has a large fan base (the racing game being the only other "recent" game). Given that BGS let Obsidian take a stab at Fallout means they are biding time until they release their own, which is the other reason the second project is Fallout 4.

To play devils advocate though, we can't be certain that Fallout 4 is the "secret project" that is ready for an announcement, nor can we rule out an entirely new IP. TES may even be on an indefinite hold, or Zenimax Online may be taking over TES in earnest. The Infernal City already is hopping provinces and exposing the fanbase to larger territories so who knows if that is a natural lead in to the MMO they've been working on...

The above is the least likely when you think about all the pieces involved, though until there is some hard evidence, we can't just exclude the possibility. Frankly I am with Antibody and several others who believe that we will get a TESV announcement after FONV is released and that the secondary project is indeed FO4. Time will tell if we are correct or not!

[Verity Hurding]

Please use the appropriate thread for suggestions. This is not the right place for this discussion. Thanks heaps.

Ahh my bad, I must have thought this was the suggestions thread. I'll move it to the other thread.

Back on topic... I think the chances of the second game being Fallout 4 is a bit of a stretch. We had Fallout 3.. 2 years ago was it? And now New Vegas, if Fallout 4 was announced it would seem like they're cranking out Fallout games at a ridiculous pace, and that's not really Bethesda's style. Usually they take at least 5 years between games in a series (like Morrowing --> Oblivion --> ESV). Which is why I thought the release of New Vegas was a bit against their style.

But I do sincerely hope that one of those games is, in fact, ESV. There's a .001% chance that it won't be, and that would be so infuriating.

[Tinkerbells]

Ahh my bad, I must have thought this was the suggestions thread. I'll move it to the other thread.

Back on topic... I think the chances of the second game being Fallout 4 is a bit of a stretch. We had Fallout 3.. 2 years ago was it? And now New Vegas, if Fallout 4 was announced it would seem like they're cranking out Fallout games at a ridiculous pace, and that's not really Bethesda's style. Usually they take at least 5 years between games in a series (like Morrowing --> Oblivion --> ESV). Which is why I thought the release of New Vegas was a bit against their style.

But I do sincerely hope that one of those games is, in fact, ESV. There's a .001% chance that it won't be, and that would be so infuriating.

It's not a stretch at all, actually. If the second game is still in pre-production, and not actually in development, it will take at least 3 years for it to be developed and released. Even if they started development right now, that's 5+ years after Fallout 3, and 3+ years after New Vegas. That's plenty of time between titles.

[BRIANNA]

My speculation is that there won't be a TES V, in the traditional sense that we know them as.

Bethesda seems much happier taking old franchises and remodeling them, as well as publishing other companies games.

And when you add that Bethesda will publish any game using the new id engine, you get "tough luck d&d nerds".

Bethesda Softworks, the publishing arm of the company, has expanded quite a bit recently. However that doesn't draw resources away from Bethesda Game Studies, the developement arm, and in fact they doubled in size near the end of Oblivion's development. Todd has confirmed that they have two games in development, one which is about ready to be unveiled and one that's still fairly new.

Not to mention the fact that Pete had already said, http://bethblog.com/index.php/2009/08/17/clarifying-about-next-elder-scrolls-game-mmo-etc/

So, there's really no need for any more 'speculation' that Bethesda won't do anymore elder scrolls.

[Inol Wakhid]

Well i side with the idea that the "in development" game is TESV, but the "in pre-production" game could be anything.

Now, they do have two giant franchises. Fans will demand country size areas, and highly interactive game play from these franchises, and this means that because of the time to be put into such games, reasonably one could hope to be shooting up someone with a new plasma rifle on actual next-gen systems, but this being far from the release date of that game (or even those systems), it truly is just speculation that the "in pre-production" title is fallout 4.

The amount of evidence pointing to the "in development" title being TESV is small. The short and vague side comments from Todd, such as there will be another elder scrolls game: and the Skyrim mark being published for opposition, provide the only hope that this "in development" game is TESV, but since i have heard of no other evidence supporting other game possibilities, those few bits of evidence hold more strength in my hypothesis of this "in development" game being TESV.

The fact that Todd pretty much said that they are waiting on one guy's words to announce the next game make me hopeful that we will know soon.

I agree with antibody and the others on it being after the release of Fallout New Vegas. I would say that they are not going to come out in a big press event like E3. This is because in an interview linked in the first post, Todd stated the he wanted to completely dominate whatever event he announced the game at, and continually used Quakecon as an example. So my prediction now looks towards the earliest possibility of an announcement of there "in development" game to be the Video Game Awards in December, and the latest to be Quakecon 2011.

[Cedric Pearson]

Well i side with the idea that the "in development" game is TESV, but the "in pre-production" game could be anything.

Now, they do have two giant franchises. Fans will demand country size areas, and highly interactive game play from these franchises, and this means that because of the time to be put into such games, reasonably one could hope to be shooting up someone with a new plasma rifle on actual next-gen systems, but this being far from the release date of that game (or even those systems), it truly is just speculation that the "in pre-production" title is fallout 4.

The amount of evidence pointing to the "in development" title being TESV is small. The short and vague side comments from Todd, such as there will be another elder scrolls game: and the Skyrim mark being published for opposition, provide the only hope that this "in development" game is TESV, but since i have heard of no other evidence supporting other game possibilities, those few bits of evidence hold more strength in my hypothesis of this "in development" game being TESV.

The fact that Todd pretty much said that they are waiting on one guy's words to announce the next game make me hopeful that we will know soon.

I agree with antibody and the others on it being after the release of Fallout New Vegas. I would say that they are not going to come out in a big press event like E3. This is because in an interview linked in the first post, Todd stated the he wanted to completely dominate whatever event he announced the game at, and continually used Quakecon as an example. So my prediction now looks towards the earliest possibility of an announcement of there "in development" game to be the Video Game Awards in December, and the latest to be Quakecon 2011.

It's true, there is little evidence that the in-development game is TES V, and there's even less that the game in pre-production is Fallout 4. But I think the best evidence is that it just makes sense. A new IP is unlikely. Todd has said they don't like juggling too many things at once, hinting that they wont be coming up with a third IP any time soon. Not to mention that their last game was a new IP. Fallout and the Elder Scrolls are also their more successful series in company history, and in fact are much, much more successful than any of their past series. They know this, so the possibility of the past series being one of the new games is minimal. Bethesda has said they will definitely be doing another Elder Scrolls game, and they have said that they will definitely be doing more than one Fallout. All that said, TES V and Fallout 4 being the two games in development just makes a lot of sense.

[Ladymorphine]

Zenimax has just recieved a 150 million dollar investment. Hardly related to TESV but more money in the mixer can only do good things on the whole.

[Jessica Thomson]

Zenimax has just recieved a 150 million dollar investment. Hardly related to TESV but more money in the mixer can only do good things on the whole.

I see a bright diamond in Bethesda's future.

[Ricky Meehan]

Zenimax has just recieved a 150 million dollar investment. Hardly related to TESV but more money in the mixer can only do good things on the whole.

From where did you gain this information, could you please linky linky!

[Eilidh Brian]

From where did you gain this information, could you please linky linky!

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6280877.html

[Stephanie I]

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6280877.html

Fantastic, thank you!

[Emzy Baby!]

Fantastic, thank you!

These things can go either way. Hopefully this really is an investment and not a financial rescue due to over-expansion.

[Code Affinity]

These things can go either way. Hopefully this really is an investment and not a financial rescue due to over-expansion.

I did some reading on Providence Equity Partners and so far that doesn't appear to be their m.o. (saving companies) They invest in healthy media/electronic media companies.

[Charlie Ramsden]

Well, let's look at it this way the company had invested 300 million into ZeniMax before, I doubt it's a buy out or for that matter a rescue. If FONV sales this year hold true they could be racking in huge bucks. FO 3 shipped close to 4.7 million in the first week which is pretty damn big considering it's higher than what Oblivion shipped if I remember correctly.

[Adam Kriner]

GI's November cover = Resistance 3


December, here we come...

[Yung Prince]

GI's November cover = Resistance 3


December, here we come...

mmmm, well an march announcement seems likely. though November is a possibility .

[Albert Wesker]

GI's November cover = Resistance 3


December, here we come...

Bethesda's really starting to piss me off.

Is it until after New Vegas' release they're waiting for?

[A Lo RIkIton'ton]

Bethesda's really starting to piss me off.

Is it until after New Vegas' release they're waiting for?

I would specualte that it is indeed new vegas that they are holding off for, new vegas is basically there battle spire release in a way. It's still a huge game though.

[Ymani Hood]

GI's November cover = Resistance 3


December, here we come...

GI's November cover is actually their issue for the month of October, mind you. So it's more like "Early November, here we come"

Bethesda's really starting to piss me off.

Is it until after New Vegas' release they're waiting for?

Why would you be pissed off? Nobody expected the November cover to actually be TES V, not with New Vegas on the way. :shrug:

Blizzcon is later in October, so that's another thing that ruled out the November cover being TES V.

The following covers could be TES V:

The December cover (revealed in early November)
The January cover (revealed in early December)
The February cover (revealed in early January)
The March cover (revealed in early February)

I honestly refuse to believe, at this point in time, that they will wait any longer than February to announce it. Todd's comments in August did not suggest he would be waiting more than 6 months to announce the game.

[KRistina Karlsson]

Dang, you guys beat me to it. Lol.
Anyway, i remain hopeful for the release of ES5.