[REVLUTIN]

Yeah it would be, but I dont think they would want to stomp on their fans like that, if it wasnt TES:V I think we would have had an announcement of sorts saying "ITS NOT !@#$ING TES:V PEOPLE!" with all the pestering about a tes:v you know?

Yeah I hear you on that. I just have a funny mind's image of Todd getting up on stage and excitedly revealing a completely different game, and everyone in the room is just silent with crickets chirping.

[Rachell Katherine]

Right. And evolution is just a theory.

It is a theory. Theory is a hypothesis with enough evidence to reasonably believe it's true, as opposed to a "law," like Newton's stuff, than can be empiracally, mathematically calculated. For example, there is enough evidence to reasonably believe that TESV will be announced within the next six months. However, we can't be 100% certain because we might not have the full picture/can't empirically prove it.

Hey guys, lets remember what forum we're on (one where talking about stuff like evolution makes mods angry).

[Emily Jones]

I hadn't ever noticed these "jarring transitions," and I've played both games. Care to give an example so that I have an idea of what not to look forward to? Maybe then I'll be as excited as you. ^_^

EDIT: So as not to have mods breathing down our necks for going off-topic, perhaps former and future scripting languages should have a dedicated thread.

As stated, scripting was pretty inefficient and I believe that sometimes there would be delays in scripts or bugs would occur and events would not properly be carried out or carried out as quickly as they should be.

Scripting was also not too efficient with modding.

[Roberto Gaeta]

Hey guys, lets remember what forum we're on (one where talking about stuff like evolution makes mods angry).

I was just using it as an example of A: The misuse of the word "theory" and B: The fact that we are not 100% sure of anything related to TESV does not mean that we can't make a reasonable assessment based on what evidence we do have.

[Miss Hayley]

Gravity could be just a theory, thankfully it's not :celebration:

I think that a holiday announcement would be a good thing and gain a lot of attention. Christmas day or just after anybody?


Found the best map ever thinking maybe it could help us decide were they plan on putting the game,

http://tamrielchronicles.com/assets/maproadslore.jpg

[Matt Terry]

Gravity could be just a theory, thankfully it's not :celebration:

I think that a holiday announcement would be a good thing and gain a lot of attention. Christmas day or just after anybody?


Found the best map ever thinking maybe it could help us decide were they plan on putting the game,

http://tamrielchronicles.com/assets/maproadslore.jpg

That's awesome. I like how Cyrodil is just empty compared to all the others which are detailed

Anyway, i feel if it wasn't ESV being made. They would have told us by now to put us out of our misery. But even so, it defies all logic in every way for it not to be TESV.

[Richus Dude]

Gravity could be just a theory, thankfully it's not :celebration:

I think that a holiday announcement would be a good thing and gain a lot of attention. Christmas day or just after anybody?


Found the best map ever thinking maybe it could help us decide were they plan on putting the game,

http://tamrielchronicles.com/assets/maproadslore.jpg

http://www.imperial-library.info/content/maps-created-arthmodeusd, as well as an http://www.imperial-library.info/sites/default/files/gallery_files/minibigmaproadslore31gv.jpg of that map.

That's awesome. I like how Cyrodil is just empty compared to all the others which are detailed

Anyway, i feel if it wasn't ESV being made. They would have told us by now to put us out of our misery. But even so, it defies all logic in every way for it not to be TESV.

It's empty because that map was made before Oblivion came out. All of those other details come from the map in Arena. And because they come from Arena, the vast majority of those locations will be not exist in TES V, with the exception of major locations.

[Kill Bill]

It is a theory. Theory is a hypothesis with enough evidence to reasonably believe it's true, as opposed to a "law," like Newton's stuff, than can be empiracally, mathematically calculated. For example, there is enough evidence to reasonably believe that TESV will be announced within the next six months. However, we can't be 100% certain because we might not have the full picture/can't empirically prove it.

Dude, I'm an ex-creationist and currently studying to become a microbiologist, I know.
What you said was exactly the point I was making about how an announcement wouldn't be big news - what we're actually waiting for is the stuff around the announcement: Screenshots and the like.

Gravity could be just a theory, thankfully it's not :celebration:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_theory_of_relativity.

[Darren Chandler]

Dude, I'm an ex-creationist and currently studying to become a microbiologist, I know.
What you said was exactly the point I was making about how an announcement wouldn't be big news - what we're actually waiting for is the stuff around the announcement: Screenshots and the like.

My apologies, then. Words are my business, so ones like theory and irony that are frequently misused tend to set off alarm bells in my head, and when alarm bells go off in my head my fingers go faster than my reasoning.

Well, that is also true, that it's really not an announcement most of us want, it's details, like province and art style, since we do mostly all think that the evidence is strong enough to believe in an upcoming announcement. Damn, I'm excited. Since I'm currently writing a fantasy novel, I'm on a general fantasy bent anyway, and TES is easily one of my favorite examples of how to do the genre right.

[Kortniie Dumont]

Bethesda is becoming a popular developer after the success of Oblivion and more importantly, Fallout 3. We've seen it at game conventions, they like to do things big. They had a massive booth set up at E3 and that was just for the games they were publishing.

I honestly think that they could make an announcement at the spike Video Game Awards in December. Developers always have announcements there.

[Travis]

I'm actually thinking the first word (no details, of course) will be on either the Podcast or In The 'Works. They've set up two new ways of reaching the fanbase, why not bloody use them?

[Nicole M]

I honestly think that they could make an announcement at the spike Video Game Awards in December. Developers always have announcements there.

Maybe... I mean they certainly are popular, and the VGAs are in December this year, as good a month to announce the game as any... but I don't know, I think it's kind of a long shot, only because TES V is fantasy. If it was Fallout 4, then I'd be much more convinced, but not so much with TES V. But you never know.

I'm actually thinking the first word (no details, of course) will be on either the Podcast or In The 'Works. They've set up two new ways of reaching the fanbase, why not bloody use them?

Because not nearly enough people listen to the podcast or subscribe to the newsletter. They'd get 1000x more attention if they put it on a website first.

[Soku Nyorah]

Maybe... I mean they certainly are popular, and the VGAs are in December this year, as good a month to announce the game as any... but I don't know, I think it's kind of a long shot, only because TES V is fantasy. If it was Fallout 4, then I'd be much more convinced, but not so much with TES V. But you never know.



Because not nearly enough people listen to the podcast or subscribe to the newsletter. They'd get 1000x more attention if they put it on a website first.

Hmm, true. Maybe they could still put up some stuff in those while having the main announcement on the site itself?

[Matthew Barrows]

We should also remember that all of this is just speculation, the year is pretty filled out already as is next and there are some pretty big heavy hitters. Dragon Age 2, Reckoning, Two Worlds II, The Witcher 2 all have the potential to be released next year. They also all have potential to be AAA titles. Hey, Antibody weren't you the one that posted the upcoming game releases database? I think that should be a required post at the begining of each new thread along with your wonderful time frame speculation sheet which I have saved for reference.

[Eddie Howe]

We should also remember that all of this is just speculation, the year is pretty filled out already as is next and there are some pretty big heavy hitters. Dragon Age 2, Reckoning, Two Worlds II, The Witcher 2 all have the potential to be released next year. They also all have potential to be AAA titles. Hey, Antibody weren't you the one that posted the upcoming game releases database? I think that should be a required post at the begining of each new thread along with your wonderful time frame speculation sheet which I have saved for reference.

It wasn't a database as much as my own list of upcoming games I keep for reference. 2011 is definitely jam-packed with games, that's for sure. But I don't think Bethesda should worry themselves with that right now. It's more important to announce it already, and then deal with the release date when the time comes. As it stands we don't know the exact release dates of a lot of games coming out in 2011, and Bethesda doesn't know any more than we do. Fall 2011, as well as every fall before it, will be filled to the brim with games and there's no way Bethesda can avoid that. Even Early 2012, just like Early 2011, will be full of the games that publishers foolishly thought would have less competition than in the fall, only to discover a lot of other publishers had the same idea. They can't escape it. :shrug:

[Hannah Whitlock]

We should also remember that all of this is just speculation, the year is pretty filled out already as is next and there are some pretty big heavy hitters. Dragon Age 2, Reckoning, Two Worlds II, The Witcher 2 all have the potential to be released next year. They also all have potential to be AAA titles. Hey, Antibody weren't you the one that posted the upcoming game releases database? I think that should be a required post at the begining of each new thread along with your wonderful time frame speculation sheet which I have saved for reference.

TES V would blow those games out of the water

[Robert Garcia]

There's always going to be games being released all the time. If the game is good enough, it will sell no matter.

[OnlyDumazzapplyhere]

TES V would blow those games out of the water

That is indeed very true, I'm merely making a point from a certain perspective. If they announced TES V in anyform weather it is an MMO or Single player the impact it would be have would probably be greater than any game to date. I can not even begin to think of a game that would come close to the hype. It's so huge that everything would just be over shadowed by it. Sort of like Star Craft II in a way.

[Alkira rose Nankivell]

That is indeed very true, I'm merely making a point from a certain perspective. If they announced TES V in anyform weather it is an MMO or Single player the impact it would be have would probably be greater than any game to date. I can not even begin to think of a game that would come close to the hype. It's so huge that everything would just be over shadowed by it. Sort of like Star Craft II in a way.

The only one of those games that would effect part of its fan base is DA2, but because Oblivion moved the larger part of its fanbase from Rpg to FPS players, even that won't make much of a difference.

[Ash]

TES V would blow those games out of the water

Yep. Oblivion is constantly put really high up as one of the most played games on Xbox Live, a truly amazing feat considering that Oblivion is both a fantasy game and a single player one, at that.

What is so unique about the TES series is its lasting appeal. People have been buying Morrowind years after it came out. I think Diablo 2 is one of the few other games that has lasted longer on the shelves than Morrowind, as far as I can tell.

[Cat]

Regarding crowded release windows, its not just in-genre competition, its also the fact that gamers only have so much income to blow on games. I mean, look at Sept-Oct this year, I've already bought Halo Reach and Civ 5, I would have picked up Dead Rising 2 yesterday but I ended up going over to a friend's all afternoon. I intend to pick up DJ Hero 2, Rock Band 3, and I was looking at maybe getting either Enslaved (great reviews surprise) or that GoW style Castlevania. That is probably way more than I should spend on games in any two months, and I'm not going to be getting CoD:BO, GH3, NHL11, or any of the other major releases in that window.

You, me, everybody here will buy TES5 no matter what else is being released, but there are alot of potential sales out there who might pick up TESV if there isn't already 3 other games they were planning on buying in whatever month it is released in. People play more than one genre, in the important 'is it a sale or isn't it' sense, sports games and FPS releases are competitors for TESV.

[Richard Dixon]

The only one of those games that would effect part of its fan base is DA2, but because Oblivion moved the larger part of its fanbase from Rpg to FPS players, even that won't make much of a difference.

That's not really true, TES is still very much aimed at the RPG fan, it's also aimed at the action genre fan.

[laila hassan]

kinda news guys i dont know how you want to take this but..
"Microsoft Game Studios announced that Gears of War 3 is being pushed back into fall 2011 to serve as one of the publishing label's Q4 anchor titles. Indeed, Microsoft is already predicting it will be the "biggest entertainment launch of 2011.",
GOW3 doesn't make a season all by itself it sounds as if Microsoft has another title as yet unannounced up its sleeve.

take is or leave it, discuss

source-http://www.gamespot.com/news/6280322.html?tag=latestheadlines;title;1

[Kayleigh Williams]

kinda news guys i dont know how you want to take this but..
"Microsoft Game Studios announced that Gears of War 3 is being pushed back into fall 2011 to serve as one of the publishing label's Q4 anchor titles. Indeed, Microsoft is already predicting it will be the "biggest entertainment launch of 2011.",
GOW3 doesn't make a season all by itself it sounds as if Microsoft has another title as yet unannounced up its sleeve.

take is or leave it, discuss

source-http://www.gamespot.com/news/6280322.html?tag=latestheadlines;title;1

I don't want to offend, but that is a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuge stretch of the imagination, even ignoring the fact that TES V will most definitely be multi-platform and not exclusive to the Xbox 360. Gears of War 3, hell, any game being delayed that isn't being published by Bethesda themselves has nothing to do with TES V.

[Casey]

If they announced TES V in anyform weather it is an MMO or Single player the impact it would be have would probably be greater than any game to date. I can not even begin to think of a game that would come close to the hype. It's so huge that everything would just be over shadowed by it. Sort of like Star Craft II in a way.

And that is the exact reason why I don't think they will make any such announcements before the sale of New Vegas has peaked. Bethesda has spent a lot of time the last few months on New Vegas PR, and they are not going to let a TES V announcement overshadow that. New Vegas will be all Bethesda is talking about this fall, and if they plan on releasing DLCs early next year, then I fear that will delay the annoucement even further.