[Chris Guerin]

what if were all reterded and there not even making an es5

I personally think that from a business/profit perspective, it's a safe bet that they are making a TESV, as it's a guaranteed seller. Whether it's the game that has been alluded to (which I think it is) or a future game in the works, it will appear someday. Also, "reterded" (sic) is not a good word to use.

[Kathryn Medows]

You guys have been speculating so much what you don't know is there already selling the game under the title Fishy Sticks: Skyrim and its only avalible in the most remote locations of Canada and that theres going to be a annoument 7 years from now

[Laura Richards]

G4 discussed the future of RPGs today on their website and cataloged several upcoming releases in the genre. At the end they talked about the unknown or up and coming and mentioned they expect to hear about both Fallout 4 and TESV by the end of next year. Admittedly, they know nothing more than we do, but since they are industry insiders and we aren't I thought it might behoove us to consider their speculation as I have seen us spin each other around quite a bit, and they are obviously removed, like the control in any good science experiment.

http://g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/707941/The-Future-of-RPGs-Looking-Forward-At-Diablo-3-Star-Wars-The-Old-Republic-Mass-Effect-3-And-More.html

[Darian Ennels]

G4 discussed the future of RPGs today on their website and cataloged several upcoming releases in the genre. At the end they talked about the unknown or up and coming and mentioned they expect to hear about both Fallout 4 and TESV by the end of next year. Admittedly, they know nothing more than we do, but since they are industry insiders and we aren't I thought it might behoove us to consider their speculation as I have seen us spin each other around quite a bit, and they are obviously removed, like the control in any good science experiment.

http://g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/707941/The-Future-of-RPGs-Looking-Forward-At-Diablo-3-Star-Wars-The-Old-Republic-Mass-Effect-3-And-More.html

Both of them? :huh: Why do they think that?

[MISS KEEP UR]

actually there isn't really a difference if you want to be technical one could define photo realism as this "A style of painting that resembles photography in its meticulous attention to realistic detail.". I think it's going to blow us away like never before

I'd say thats a fairly accurate definition, but my point was that the same level of detail in wildly different game types is probably asking a little too much. It's one thing to have a racing game with photo-realistic cars where the 3D models are solidly defined shapes that don't flex like muscles under skin or fur & you don't have to worry too much about natural looking leaves and branches swaying in the wind (with a high level of detail) because the player will probably be whipping by too fast to notice any way. It's another to have an open world game that players can reach (most) locations from virtually any direction, there is a lot of "organic" models like plants and animals, the game world "remembers" where you dropped junk & what doors you left open, what people you talked to & which ones you killed, and on, and on. There has to be a trade off for those differences.

It's going to look better, it's just a matter of how much. I'd be ok if it was at least as detailed as Fallout 3 (maybe a little disappointed ) as long as the game play is there.

[LuBiE LoU]

for pete sake!!! how long will they make us wait!!!

"hey guys" is that a hint lol?

i think it is!!!!!! YESSSSSs

[Silvia Gil]

I feel the same way... they're probably under the impression that announcing it before New Vegas will affect its sales, but honestly... who is gonna go "oh ESV looks sweet, i'm not gonna buy NV and instead save my $60 for a year to get ESV when it comes out!"

Here's something I believe people are missing in this particular argument. I don't think the impact upon FO:NV would have much to do with fans and more to do with buzz from news outlets. If they were to announce TES:V now, because of its huge popularity I would expect game-news outlets to be clamoring more for information about TES:V than FO:NV. FO:NV would become an afterthought in the world of buzz and the general conversation would shift from FO:NV to TES:V because TES:V would become the new thing everyone wants to know about. Word of mouth (buzz) is more powerful than any marketing campaign.

It has nothing to do with what the gamer is going to do once they reach the shelf, but rather to do with whether the gamer is ever informed enough about the game to even head over to the shelf.

Well we've talked about this before but I really think it has to do with the workload of Bethesda Softworks and that they are waiting until the media machine is done publishing NV so there is room for the mammoth amount of effort they will have to put forward to market TESV effectively. I have gotten over a dozen tweets today from promotions for FONV... they are in high gear right now... no room for anything else!

I think this is also a very good reason, and likely the primary one.

[Jeremy Kenney]

Here's something I believe people are missing in this particular argument. I don't think the impact upon FO:NV would have much to do with fans and more to do with buzz from news outlets. If they were to announce TES:V now, because of its huge popularity I would expect game-news outlets to be clamoring more for information about TES:V than FO:NV. FO:NV would become an afterthought in the world of buzz and the general conversation would shift from FO:NV to TES:V because TES:V would become the new thing everyone wants to know about. Word of mouth (buzz) is more powerful than any marketing campaign.

It has nothing to do with what the gamer is going to do once they reach the shelf, but rather to do with whether the gamer is ever informed enough about the game to even head over to the shelf.




I think this is also a very good reason, and likely the primary one.

Yeah, that's true one tweet about the next elder scrolls could easily draw all the media attention away from FONV, just think of what you happen if they announced ESV this month. That would screw them over from the marketing side because then the press would come pounding like zombies. I would imagine they would announce it on a podcast if they really wanted to promote there bethblog and such. Guess who they haven't had come on yet...Pete Hines. Now if he came on everybody be like PARTY!!! :celebration:

[Lory Da Costa]

G4 discussed the future of RPGs today on their website and cataloged several upcoming releases in the genre. At the end they talked about the unknown or up and coming and mentioned they expect to hear about both Fallout 4 and TESV by the end of next year. Admittedly, they know nothing more than we do, but since they are industry insiders and we aren't I thought it might behoove us to consider their speculation as I have seen us spin each other around quite a bit, and they are obviously removed, like the control in any good science experiment.

http://g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/707941/The-Future-of-RPGs-Looking-Forward-At-Diablo-3-Star-Wars-The-Old-Republic-Mass-Effect-3-And-More.html

TES V? Yes, we should definitely hear about it sometime next year, if not this year. Fallout 4? Not a chance in hell. I don't expect to hear about that until sometime in 2013, maybe late 2012 depending on when they release TES V.

Well we've talked about this before but I really think it has to do with the workload of Bethesda Softworks and that they are waiting until the media machine is done publishing NV so there is room for the mammoth amount of effort they will have to put forward to market TESV effectively. I have gotten over a dozen tweets today from promotions for FONV... they are in high gear right now... no room for anything else!

That's what I've been assuming as well.

[i grind hard]

I would almost be angry if FO4 was announced before tes5

[Kelsey Anna Farley]

By the way, weren't we supposed to have another Bethesda podcast today? They delayed it again...

[Trevor Bostwick]

The next elder scrolls has to be announced next year or this year! We all missed something HUGE....Bethesda Softworks 25th Anniversary is next year from it's founding date.

[I love YOu]

I would almost be angry if FO4 was announced before tes5

almost? don't get me wrong, I enjoyed FO:3 and i plan on buying FO:NV next week, but getting 3 straight Fallout titles(regardless of the fact that maybe only two of them would be dev'd by gamesas) would exhaust this franchise fairly quick, especially when there are fans standing on the sidelines practically frothing at the mouth for TES:V...

That said, i think the Browns have a better chance of winning a Superbowl before Beth's next game is released compared to the chances of getting FO:4 before TES:V

[Greg Swan]

The next elder scrolls has to be announced next year or this year! We all missed something HUGE....Bethesda Softworks 25th Anniversary is next year from it's founding date.

I'm not sure if this would make a big deal for them, but whatever gets them to announce their next game is good enough for me.

[Julie Serebrekoff]

I'm not sure if this would make a big deal for them, but whatever gets them to announce their next game is good enough for me.

Oh come on, you seriously don't think they would drop a bombshell of a game on there Anniversary? Think of the hype machine they could ride on from announcing it this year and releasing it on there Anniversary. If you were Pete Hines would you seriously miss that marketing opportunity? It's like golden. Today Bethesda Announces ESV which will be released on there 25th Anniversary.
Now tell me that isn't serious....they could instantly promote it as something special for the fans and for the company.

[x a million...]

Oh come on, you seriously don't think they would drop a bombshell of a game on there Anniversary? Think of the hype machine they could ride on from announcing it this year and releasing it on there Anniversary. If you were Pete Hines would you seriously miss that marketing opportunity? It's like golden. Today Bethesda Announces ESV which will be released on there 25th Anniversary.
Now tell me that isn't serious....they could instantly promote it as something special for the fans and for the company.

When exactly is their 25th anniversary?

[April D. F]

By the way, weren't we supposed to have another Bethesda podcast today? They delayed it again...

Yep, and I'm pretty sad about that too. I've really started looking forward to them. Hopefully we find out when it's actually coming soon...

almost? don't get me wrong, I enjoyed FO:3 and i plan on buying FO:NV next week, but getting 3 straight Fallout titles(regardless of the fact that maybe only two of them would be dev'd by gamesas) would exhaust this franchise fairly quick, especially when there are fans standing on the sidelines practically frothing at the mouth for TES:V...

That said, i think the Browns have a better chance of winning a Superbowl before Beth's next game is released compared to the chances of getting FO:4 before TES:V

Hell, even I, who gets a bit giddy whenever I so much as think of Fallout 4, would be slightly angry if that's what they were focusing on instead of TES V. I want to play Fallout 4 more than any game I've ever wanted to play in my life, but an announcement of it before the announcement of TES V would make me feel an odd combination of excitement and anger.

But, luckily, it's so unlikely that will be the case that I'm not even worried about it. When Fallout 4 is announced it will be 4-5 years after Fallout 3, just like how it's currently more than 4 1/2 years after Oblivion. It's obvious to me that New Vegas was a way for Bethesda to shorten the amount of time Fallout fans had to wait for a new Fallout game because they knew they'd be making TES V first.

Oh come on, you seriously don't think they would drop a bombshell of a game on there Anniversary? Think of the hype machine they could ride on from announcing it this year and releasing it on there Anniversary. If you were Pete Hines would you seriously miss that marketing opportunity? It's like golden. Today Bethesda Announces ESV which will be released on there 25th Anniversary.
Now tell me that isn't serious....they could instantly promote it as something special for the fans and for the company.

There would be no more hype than the hype that would already be generated by TES V. Few fans know the exact date of Bethesda's anniversary, hell I just googled it and I found nothing but the year, so I really don't see how it's anything close to a "huge marketing opportunity."

[Jamie Moysey]

I've taken the liberty to email and inquire about the exact date...hopefully they will be kind enough to respond back to me. If I have the information I will be sure to post it.
Secondly, AntiBody, you don't seem to realize the aspects. That would add a lot more weight and make people feel even more sympathetic. It's not for us the fans, it's for the investors ect.

At dutch, exact date is unknown but there 25th anniversary is next year.

[Georgia Fullalove]

It's going to look better, it's just a matter of how much. I'd be ok if it was at least as detailed as Fallout 3 (maybe a little disappointed ) as long as the game play is there.

Well its using the gamebryo engine, and its being developed for the Xbox 360.

Nuff Said.

Next gen my ass.

[Danielle Brown]

I've taken the liberty to email and inquire about the exact date...hopefully they will be kind enough to respond back to me. If I have the information I will be sure to post it.
Secondly, AntiBody, you don't seem to realize the aspects. That would add a lot more weight and make people feel even more sympathetic. It's not for us the fans, it's for the investors ect.

At dutch, exact date is unknown but there 25th anniversary is next year.

I realize it, I just can't see how it would matter all that much. Even more sympathetic? I don't even think you're using the right word there. Nobody is going to think "Oh it's their birthday, I should get TES V to make them happier." And they have no investors, it's a private company, so I really have no idea how you think this matters. Yes, Bethesda saying "We'll be releasing TES V on your 25th anniversary" would be cool and all, but it wouldn't amount to anything more than being an interesting tidbit.

[Reanan-Marie Olsen]

Well its using the gamebryo engine, and its being developed for the Xbox 360.

Nuff Said.

Next gen my ass.

LOL, technically speaking God of War III is built on the same engine as God of War II. So the fact that it's being built off the gamebryo engine doesn't mean jack. Infact bethesda has already said that they started with the gamebryo engine and basically made it there own. In otherwords the architecture is completely different. Hmmm, I'm sure there is a different topic thread we can start for this.


At Anti, lol they do have investors a company just invested 100 million+ in them, it just means that it isn't open to public investments.

[sam westover]

Everybody knows it's coming, it's probably one of the worst kept secrets in the gaming industry. We know it, Bethesda Softworks knows it, everybody knows that it's going to be coming.

I don't know why but I lurk in this thread and it's a black hole that makes me read every post because of comments like this. I want TES V to be announced badly enough that I'm willing to waste time and read speculative comments about others conviction it's being worked on and to be announced soon. I just hope it's all true.

I have some good questions that could actually give us an idea of what they are working on. What game engine software do they currently have a license to use? Is there any way to find this out? It would be a good indication of what they may have in the works right now.

[Matt Fletcher]

I don't know why but I lurk in this thread and it's a black hole that makes me read every post because of comments like this. I want TES V to be announced badly enough that I'm willing to waste time and read speculative comments about others conviction it's being worked on and to be announced soon. I just hope it's all true.

I have some good questions that could actually give us an idea of what they are working on. What game engine software do they currently have a license to use? Is there any way to find this out? It would be a good indication of what they may have in the works right now.

They already said that they were going to be using the Gamebyro Engine however ZeniMax Online licensed the Hero engine for use with a stealth project. The Hero engine is used in other MMO's so that is almost certainly what they are working on.

and yes , black holes are fun.

Hero Engine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boqHWm3fQmc&feature=related

[Philip Rua]

For the date of their anniversary it may be nice for them to do the ultimate collectors edition which is just the collectors editions of what didn't get GOTY and GOTY for those that did. they hold a possibility for money there with a reasonable celebration of 25 years
as for ESV i would say the best bet is for announcement within the next few months (due to what Antibody and others have stated) and release around holiday 2011

[Alada Vaginah]

At Anti, lol they do have investors a company just invested 100 million+ in them, it just means that it isn't open to public investments.

I assumed by "investors" you meant stockholders. Anyway, still don't see how Bethesda releasing the game on their anniversary will make the investors any happier than if they released it a month before that.