[Bereket Fekadu]

I wasn't aware Brink had a concrete release date aside from Spring 2011?

Either way, I'm positive that none of Bethesda's remaining published games will get in the way of the TES V announcement. It's not even worth thinking about it. Bethesda will figure out a way to best hype up all of their games, including TES V, at the same time, and release them so they don't interfere with each other.



Lets stop posting these kinds of stories guys. Look, you could be good friend's with Todd Howard's wife for all we know but unless you can provide is evidence of that, telling us a story is pointless because we have no way of knowing if you are telling the truth or not. Your friend may very well know people in the industry and may very well be able to convince them to break their NDAs and tell you what they're working on, but unless you can give us solid proof there's no way we can believe you.

Understood, however I certainly wouldn't post anything that I didn't believe myself or think was legit. I see what it has done in this thread and to my own psyche and unless I know for sure I won't post anything. There is no true way for anyone to know the truth, but aside from trolls coming in here and messing around, I think it is safe to say we are all being honest about what we know and who we know (or at least I am)

[Tinkerbells]

Lets stop posting these kinds of stories guys. Look, you could be good friend's with Todd Howard's wife for all we know but unless you can provide is evidence of that, telling us a story is pointless because we have no way of knowing if you are telling the truth or not. Your friend may very well know people in the industry and may very well be able to convince them to break their NDAs and tell you what they're working on, but unless you can give us solid proof there's no way we can believe you.

Then again, Antibody, if we followed this sentiment to a 'T' then the only thing we'd even have mentioned, EVER, was the trademarks.

I think its important to understand that speculation, as hard as we WANT it to be as factual and provable as possible, is just that; speculation. If Static Oblivion has something he thinks we can speculate on that he himself sincerely believes, then the least we could do would be to hear him out. The other option is just to get ridiculous amounts of 'proof' (what counts as proof? If he takes a picture of him and his video game industry friend, does that count? How do we know he's in the industry? Does he need to provide proof of that? How do we know that wasn't photoshopped?).

There has to be a stopping point to speculation, sure, but damn it, there's got to be a starting point as well.

[Trish]

Which trademark? The oblivion film one or the skyrim one?

[Laura Wilson]

Which trademark? The oblivion film one or the skyrim one?

The Skyrim one, but that is beside the point.

[Charlotte Lloyd-Jones]

I know I was just curious.

[Anna Krzyzanowska]

So aside from playing the waiting game with this, humor me guys and give input or information on what the plot would be and all that good stuff. As I said earlier, I have never played TES before except Oblivion on the 360 and hence I am hooked. Give me something to mull over at work today :foodndrink:

The Skyrim one, but that is beside the point.

So STatic, take that as a tidbit. Will the game be in the land of snow and Nords? Will there be igloos? Go do some digging on uesp.net for some skyrim lore

to get you started: http://www.uesp.net/wiki/General:Speculation_on_TES_V

[Lily]

Then again, Antibody, if we followed this sentiment to a 'T' then the only thing we'd even have mentioned, EVER, was the trademarks.

I think its important to understand that speculation, as hard as we WANT it to be as factual and provable as possible, is just that; speculation. If Static Oblivion has something he thinks we can speculate on that he himself sincerely believes, then the least we could do would be to hear him out. The other option is just to get ridiculous amounts of 'proof' (what counts as proof? If he takes a picture of him and his video game industry friend, does that count? How do we know he's in the industry? Does he need to provide proof of that? How do we know that wasn't photoshopped?).

There has to be a stopping point to speculation, sure, but damn it, there's got to be a starting point as well.

I consider the safest things to speculate on interviews from people at Bethesda. They are the things that have gotten us as "far" as we are. Most of what we know now is because of the Eurogamer interview with Todd. Before that we were banking on the trademarks expiring, before that we were assuming something somebody from Game Informer said was about TES V, and before that, well, we were just thinking about the trademarks. And all that time we've also heard various stories about how a poster knows a guy who knows something about TES V. And so far, all of them have been proven wrong by the lack of an announcement. You're right, Static Oblivion can't provide solid proof, that's why I said not to post anything at all. All I'm saying is that up until this point every single story we've had told to us by posters who say they know people have been proven wrong, and I can't say it's very good speculation to keep believing them despite them never being right.

[ILy- Forver]

I consider the safest things to speculate on interviews from people at Bethesda. They are the things that have gotten us as "far" as we are. Most of what we know now is because of the Eurogamer interview with Todd. Before that we were banking on the trademarks expiring, before that we were assuming something somebody from Game Informer said was about TES V, and before that, well, we were just thinking about the trademarks. And all that time we've also heard various stories about how a poster knows a guy who knows something about TES V. And so far, all of them have been proven wrong by the lack of an announcement. You're right, Static Oblivion can't provide solid proof, that's why I said not to post anything at all. All I'm saying is that up until this point every single story we've had told to us by posters who say they know people have been proven wrong, and I can't say it's very good speculation to keep believing them despite them never being right.

Well all I can promise Antibody is that I give you all the best information I have!! I completely understand you, but keep in mind that I myself am going through this crap of waiting and waiting and hoping just as much as you are. I didn't say that my friend automatically knew something, I said he knew people but would look into it. He is a trustworthy person who I believe 100% that if he knows something legit he will tell me. I wouldn't want any of you to get my hopes up in your information was BS, so i wouldn't do that to any of you on here

[matt]

I wasn't aware Brink had a concrete release date aside from Spring 2011?

Either way, I'm positive that none of Bethesda's remaining published games will get in the way of the TES V announcement. It's not even worth thinking about it. Bethesda will figure out a way to best hype up all of their games, including TES V, at the same time, and release them so they don't interfere with each other.

Well just at a quick google search I came up with that date from this site:

http://www.videogamesblogger.com/2010/03/05/brink-release-date-is-september-7-2010.htm

So it may not actually be firm.

I'm not sure if your statement was in disagreement with my statements or not, because I never even mentioned anything about the announcement being impeded by the remaining published titles, just that it makes sense that TESV would have 100% of the Softworks attention after the release of Rage to focus on hyping and releasing TESV. Chronologically it makes sense as they can reallocate resources after each successive launch, building Rage to near frenzy before release and then all out media Armageddon until TESV release.

[Hope Greenhaw]

I personally feel it will be announced (and released) on the 25th November this year.

Why?

It's my birthday, and it's about time Todd gave me a present (a guy can hope, can't he?) :foodndrink: .



In all seriousness, the easyest way to get an accurate estimation would be to gather all sources of information currently available, put them in the OP for easy reference, then carefully look over each piece to determain if it can be/is true, then rule off the ones that can't be/aren't. Eventually we'll end up with the most likely estimate we can get. Oh, and just another thought, it may be wise to note down the dates comming from these people that "Know this guy...", if they all point to the same-ish time slot, perhaps they could prove to be more reliable sources than first imagined.

[Tanya Parra]

Well all I can promise Antibody is that I give you all the best information I have!! I completely understand you, but keep in mind that I myself am going through this crap of waiting and waiting and hoping just as much as you are. I didn't say that my friend automatically knew something, I said he knew people but would look into it. He is a trustworthy person who I believe 100% that if he knows something legit he will tell me. I wouldn't want any of you to get my hopes up in your information was BS, so i wouldn't do that to any of you on here

A word of advice here. We have had these kind of "I know someone who will know something" posts before, and all have been hot air to make themselves look good. All employees of Bethesda have to sign strictly binding legal agreements not to divulge any information. If there is any hint of those being broken there would no doubt be an investigation which could possibly involve those passing the information on.

I suggest you drop this discussion.

[Amanda Furtado]

We all know that Bethesda is saying it's an MMO with rumors to piss fans off so when they announce it as single player us fans buy multiple copies haha.

Speaking of with, don't we all remember what the ending of oblivion said?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLWAr3TQ-S8&feature=related


OF COURSE THERE'S GOING TO BE A 5th ONE...there basically confirming it with this last saying.

Was the line "when the next elder scroll is written, it will be you who writes it" supposed to mean anything? Other than their being a next ES of course... it isn't a hint towards an MMO right?

[Harinder Ghag]

Okay gang, I can't believe I missed this, but I totally did.

Take it for what it is worth, and there are still some pieces left up in the air.

For those who are unaware, Bethesda had applied for a Skyrim trademark for the game itself (there were several Skyrim trademark applications for various facets like merchandise and booklets etc.) and it had gone through all the standard processes but the process itself has an end date if the mark is never actually used, i.e. a product is produced. The old marks expired (died) and they applied for new trademarks for Skyrim.

The new Skyrim trademark application for the game itself, as of 9/28, was assigned the status of "A non-final action has been mailed". Reading the simple description, I simply dismissed this as a part of the process. EXCEPT: The dead mark for Skyrim never had this status assigned to it... so why would this new mark get this status if it was following the standard process of any old trademark?

So I dug a little deeper:

http://www.laborlawtalk.com/archive/index.php/t-49117.html

What this means is that BETHESDA PROVIDED SOMETHING TO THE USPTO indicating they were going to fulfill the SOU! The office is asking for more information to determine whether they can register the mark... This indicates to me that we are incredibly close to an actual completed Statement of Use (i.e. an announcement) and the final piece needed to register the mark!

[kiss my weasel]

So we can expect sometime on the near future an announcement based on what you say about that from trademarks?

[Kristina Campbell]

Okay gang, I can't believe I missed this, but I totally did.

Take it for what it is worth, and there are still some pieces left up in the air.

For those who are unaware, Bethesda had applied for a Skyrim trademark for the game itself (there were several Skyrim trademark applications for various facets like merchandise and booklets etc.) and it had gone through all the standard processes but the process itself has an end date if the mark is never actually used, i.e. a product is produced. The old marks expired (died) and they applied for new trademarks for Skyrim.

The new Skyrim trademark application for the game itself, as of 9/28, was assigned the status of "A non-final action has been mailed". Reading the simple description, I simply dismissed this as a part of the process. EXCEPT: The dead mark for Skyrim never had this status assigned to it... so why would this new mark get this status if it was following the standard process of any old trademark?

So I dug a little deeper:

http://www.laborlawtalk.com/archive/index.php/t-49117.html

What this means is that BETHESDA PROVIDED SOMETHING TO THE USPTO indicating they were going to fulfill the SOU! The office is asking for more information to determine whether they can register the mark... This indicates to me that we are incredibly close to an actual completed Statement of Use (i.e. an announcement) and the final piece needed to register the mark!

Good news indeed!
I got a feeling that stuff is all coming together.

[Johanna Van Drunick]

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ConfusedCartman! You're from the LBP forum! Hai!

But on topic; good find SyltStryder.

[Kayla Oatney]

I'm not sure if your statement was in disagreement with my statements or not, because I never even mentioned anything about the announcement being impeded by the remaining published titles, just that it makes sense that TESV would have 100% of the Softworks attention after the release of Rage to focus on hyping and releasing TESV. Chronologically it makes sense as they can reallocate resources after each successive launch, building Rage to near frenzy before release and then all out media Armageddon until TESV release.

I don't know, I'm so used to making posts telling people Bethesda's other published titles aren't going to interfere with TES V that I just assumed that's what you were trying to say. My bad then.

I do agree that it makes sense that they're releasing Rage so early so they can focus on TES V afterward. I mean I don't see why else they would set such a specific release date more than a year before it actually arrives.

Okay gang, I can't believe I missed this, but I totally did.

Take it for what it is worth, and there are still some pieces left up in the air.

For those who are unaware, Bethesda had applied for a Skyrim trademark for the game itself (there were several Skyrim trademark applications for various facets like merchandise and booklets etc.) and it had gone through all the standard processes but the process itself has an end date if the mark is never actually used, i.e. a product is produced. The old marks expired (died) and they applied for new trademarks for Skyrim.

The new Skyrim trademark application for the game itself, as of 9/28, was assigned the status of "A non-final action has been mailed". Reading the simple description, I simply dismissed this as a part of the process. EXCEPT: The dead mark for Skyrim never had this status assigned to it... so why would this new mark get this status if it was following the standard process of any old trademark?

So I dug a little deeper:

http://www.laborlawtalk.com/archive/index.php/t-49117.html

What this means is that BETHESDA PROVIDED SOMETHING TO THE USPTO indicating they were going to fulfill the SOU! The office is asking for more information to determine whether they can register the mark... This indicates to me that we are incredibly close to an actual completed Statement of Use (i.e. an announcement) and the final piece needed to register the mark!

What else do they need to file before fullfilling the SOU and announcing it? That seems pretty interesting though, hopefully it means we'll get an announcement soon.

[Peetay]

It's funny you know just watching the end of Oblivion again it's almost as if it's screaming out that there's going to be another game. "fate of the empire in your hands" seems like a strong hint, so yeah... i cant wait.

[Theodore Walling]

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ConfusedCartman! You're from the LBP forum! Hai!

But on topic; good find SyltStryder.

Hey there - surprised to see an LBP fan way out here. There aren't very many things Elder Scrolls and LBP have in common with each other (other than both of them being awesome games ), so it's not often I find someone who's into both. I generally just lurk these threads, replying once in a while when I feel the urge. Like now, for instance.

SyltStryder: Nice one. Now I'm really hyped. My guess is we'll see something in the way of an announcement before the year's out. Do they have a due date on that SOU?

EDIT: Ah, I looked into the http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=85067861 myself, and they're markedly vague. However, they do helpfully elaborate on the current step in the trademarking process (check the "Current Status" portion), so at least there's that.

[Queen Bitch]

GUYS I HAVE BIG NEWS

I was talking to my cat a little while ago about the war in Afghanistan when he put down his newspaper, put his pipe on the table and told me, very frankly:

Sparkles Fantastic: Antibody, Bethesda will announce TES V at 2:35 pm Eastern on October 25th, 2010.

Me: ...How do you know this?

Sparkles: I ran into an old friend from college yesterday, at the supermarket. The cereal aisle, to be exact. Told me he changed his name to Todd Howard and got a gig at some place called Bethesda. Said all this stuff about TES V, took a couple swigs from a bottle of gin he had hidden in a paper bag and took off running out of the store yelling something about being superman. Figure'd I'd tell you about that so you could post it on yer speculation thread on dem internets.

Me: Wow, that sounds very credible, I'll go do that right away!

And here I am. So, yeah, my story is very reasonable and I think you should all believe me.

Okay, whether we believe it or not we all have to check the blog at 2:35 a week from monday...

[Steven Hardman]

were close. very close. so close. i have this gut feeling we will get an announcement in early november.

[Fluffer]

SyltStryder: Nice one. Now I'm really hyped. My guess is we'll see something in the way of an announcement before the year's out. Do they have a due date on that SOU?

I haven't been able to find anything regarding whether there is a definite timeline associated with the request for information needed to complete the SOU, but in a general sense they are no where near the end of the process if they don't. It could go on for a number of years before the application is allowed to die without being registered, the important thing about this is that they offered something to the USPTO in reference to getting the mark registered and are now required to provide whatever remaining information to qualify the SOU and register the mark, something not done in the previous mark.

[Lovingly]

Hey there - surprised to see an LBP fan way out here. There aren't very many things Elder Scrolls and LBP have in common with each other (other than both of them being awesome games ), so it's not often I find someone who's into both. I generally just lurk these threads, replying once in a while when I feel the urge. Like now, for instance.

SyltStryder: Nice one. Now I'm really hyped. My guess is we'll see something in the way of an announcement before the year's out. Do they have a due date on that SOU?

Woo! Go LBPCentral!

Also, notice the "21 User(s) are reading this topic"... as if we're all just hitting F4, waiting for someone to post xD

[Elizabeth Lysons]

Okay gang, I can't believe I missed this, but I totally did.

Take it for what it is worth, and there are still some pieces left up in the air.

For those who are unaware, Bethesda had applied for a Skyrim trademark for the game itself (there were several Skyrim trademark applications for various facets like merchandise and booklets etc.) and it had gone through all the standard processes but the process itself has an end date if the mark is never actually used, i.e. a product is produced. The old marks expired (died) and they applied for new trademarks for Skyrim.

The new Skyrim trademark application for the game itself, as of 9/28, was assigned the status of "A non-final action has been mailed". Reading the simple description, I simply dismissed this as a part of the process. EXCEPT: The dead mark for Skyrim never had this status assigned to it... so why would this new mark get this status if it was following the standard process of any old trademark?

So I dug a little deeper:

http://www.laborlawtalk.com/archive/index.php/t-49117.html

What this means is that BETHESDA PROVIDED SOMETHING TO THE USPTO indicating they were going to fulfill the SOU! The office is asking for more information to determine whether they can register the mark... This indicates to me that we are incredibly close to an actual completed Statement of Use (i.e. an announcement) and the final piece needed to register the mark!

I actually found listed on a site that the estimated response time was 3/28/2011
http://www.trademarkia.com/skyrim-85067861.html

[Paula Ramos]

I actually found listed on a site that the estimated response time was 3/28/2011
http://www.trademarkia.com/skyrim-85067861.html

It states "Deadline", so its not an estimate of the response.

EDIT: That's what I understood from your post anyway.