[His Bella]

So, because Bethesda picked up another big series and made one, and I stress this, ONE game for that series after the last TES game, TES series has been demoted? Please, back up your claims with some evidence, because that is not true. Where has it "been made clear time and time again"? When did Todd proclaim this? What is your argument to contradict everything we do know, such a certain Skyrim trademark, a certain novel, and Bethesda handing off Fallout to another company temporarily? You think they plan on releasing three Fallout games in a 3-4 year time period? Oblivion is still up there as one of the best-selling, if not the best-selling, WRPGs of all time, last time I checked. Why not make a sure-to-be lucrative sequel?

Sorry it is not the best selling, and wont ever be.
Fallout sells are as big or better than oblivion.

Last year in an interview inquired about TES V, Todd stated more or less:
"Yes, we dont discard a sequel for TES series, big sucess with public, but now we have other priorities". Note the "don t discard", and the "other priorities".
Refresh me, what was the time between morrowind and Oblivion ? And what is the time between Fallout 3 and... Vegas ?
Sorry to burst your bubble but THE prime product now is fallout. TES is second. The company is simply seeing more potential in the Fallout franchise than the TES franchise. Hence
Silly put: BANG BANG attract more people than CLANG CLANG. And business is business.

Hence my words:
Bethesda will develop TES V when they tire or people tire of fallout. So don t expect anything before 2012.

We will see TES 5, but nowhere soon. And i really hope its better than Oblivion. Combat aside, Oblivion was a step back in design.

[Elle H]

Sorry it is not the best selling, and wont ever be.
Fallout sells are as big or better than oblivion.

Last year in an interview inquired about TES V, Todd stated more or less:
"Yes, we dont discard a sequel for TES series, big sucess with public, but now we have other priorities". Note the "don t discard", and the "other priorities".
Refresh me, what was the time between morrowind and Oblivion ? And what is the time between Fallout 3 and... Vegas ?
Sorry to burst your bubble but THE prime product now is fallout. TES is second. The company is simply seeing more potential in the Fallout franchise than the TES franchise. Hence
Silly put: BANG BANG attract more people than CLANG CLANG. And business is business.

Hence my words:
Bethesda will develop TES V when they tire or people tire of fallout. So don t expect anything before 2012.

We will see TES 5, but nowhere soon. And i really hope its better than Oblivion. Combat aside, Oblivion was a step back in design.

You seem to be forgetting that Bethesda Game Studios isn't making New Vegas, however. If BGS was busy making a Fallout game, why would they let Obsidian make New Vegas?

[MatthewJontully]

Sorry it is not the best selling, and wont ever be.
Fallout sells are as big or better than oblivion.

Last year in an interview inquired about TES V, Todd stated more or less:
"Yes, we dont discard a sequel for TES series, big sucess with public, but now we have other priorities". Note the "don t discard", and the "other priorities".
Refresh me, what was the time between morrowind and Oblivion ? And what is the time between Fallout 3 and... Vegas ?
Sorry to burst your bubble but THE prime product now is fallout. TES is second. The company is simply seeing more potential in the Fallout franchise than the TES franchise. Hence
Silly put: BANG BANG attract more people than CLANG CLANG. And business is business.

Hence my words:
Bethesda will develop TES V when they tire or people tire of fallout. So don t expect anything before 2012.

We will see TES 5, but nowhere soon. And i really hope its better than Oblivion. Combat aside, Oblivion was a step back in design.

Tell that to the 2010 gaming book of records. Oblivion was big, and too much Fallout at one time just oversaturates the market. Yes, of course Todd wouldn't say "we are working on TES V", especially last year, which was the year Bethesda was working on Fallout 3's DLC. That was their "priority", but what makes you think they aren't working on TES V right now? Also, don't discard means don't throw the possibility out the window. Again, this was last year, and how early was it last year? If TES V is released in late 2011 or early 2012, then they really didn't have anything to talk about relating to TES V. Bethesda isn't working on New Vegas. They gave Obsidian Fallout 3's engine and let them do their thing. The engine was completely redone between Morrowind and Oblivion, so of course it took more time to make Oblivion. What's your point there? The company was dealing with Fallout at the time. So?

Once again, what about the Skyrim trademark(that Bethesda's had for several years) and the novel? The company made one Fallout game and let Obsidian make New Vegas. What do you think Bethesda is working on, Fallout 4? Getting a new series isn't throwing the other aside.

Don't bring that last part in here, please. This is a speculation thread.

[Roberto Gaeta]

Tell that to the 2010 gaming book of records. Oblivion was big, and too much Fallout at one time just oversaturates the market. Yes, of course Todd wouldn't say "we are working on TES V", especially last year, which was the year Bethesda was working on Fallout 3's DLC. That was their "priority", but what makes you think they aren't working on TES V right now? Also, don't discard means don't throw the possibility out the window. Again, this was last year, and how early was it last year? If TES V is released in late 2011 or early 2012, then they really didn't have anything to talk about relating to TES V. Bethesda isn't working on New Vegas. They gave Obsidian Fallout 3's engine and let them do their thing. The engine was completely redone between Morrowind and Oblivion, so of course it took more time to make Oblivion. What's your point there? The company was dealing with Fallout at the time. So?

Once again, what about the Skyrim trademark(that Bethesda's had for several years) and the novel? The company made one Fallout game and let Obsidian make New Vegas. What do you think Bethesda is working on, Fallout 4? Getting a new series isn't throwing the other aside.

Don't bring any of that Oblivion bashing in here. This is a speculation thread.

Do you see anywhere TES V anounced ?
Do you see many sword play games in theyr to come portifolio.
Its not because they gave a port of production to Obsidian they aren t working on it.

They may be working on it, but ill bet that we wont be seing it before 2012, and depending on Vegas success it may be even after.

And to stop the auto fooling :
"Fallout smashes Oblivion sales"
Just search the net, this wasn t on one country only.

[Sweets Sweets]

Do you see anywhere TES V anounced ?
Do you see many sword play games in theyr to come portifolio.
Its not because they gave a port of production to Obsidian they aren t working on it.

They may be working on it, but ill bet that we wont be seing it before 2012, and depending on Vegas success it may be even after.

And to stop the auto fooling :
"Fallout smashes Oblivion sales"
Just search the net, this wasn t on one country only.

So? Oblivion was nowhere in sight until 2 years after Morrowind's release and we're just about to reach a similar point following Fallout 3's release.
Skyrim trademark
They are not working on New Vegas, period. They just aren't.

in the immediate sense(first month) is all I've seen

Regardless of whatever one sold more, Oblivion was still big enough of a success to guarantee a sequel. Yet again, explain away the trademark, the novel, and what Bethesda's been working on. It isn't New Vegas.

[TASTY TRACY]

Do you see anywhere TES V anounced ?
Do you see many sword play games in theyr to come portifolio.
Its not because they gave a port of production to Obsidian they aren t working on it.

They may be working on it, but ill bet that we wont be seing it before 2012, and depending on Vegas success it may be even after.

And to stop the auto fooling :
"Fallout smashes Oblivion sales"
Just search the net, this wasn t on one country only.

Do you see Fallout 4 announced? No, you don't. Fallout 4 is being worked on, but it's only in pre-production. TES V has been in development for 2 years. This is something you have to accept because it's the only logical conclusion. If you want to talk about the illogical conclusion we could make, it's that, despite Obsidian releasing New Vegas in a few days and supporting it with DLC likely half way into 2011, Bethesda will announce Fallout 4 soon and release it in less than 1 1/2 years from the announcement. That is a ridiculous amount of time between Fallout titles and would totally over-saturate the market. Not to mention the fact that if Bethesda has been developing Fallout 4, they wont be able to implement a single improvement from New Vegas and will have learned nothing from the improvements Obsidian made. Fallout 4 just isn't their main focus right now.

Also, the fact that you called TES a "sword play game" shows very clearly that you haven't ever actually played a TES game and therefore have no idea how great of a series it is. It also shows that arguing with you is rather pointless because you don't know about the series you're bashing. Just because you like Fallout more than a series you dislike so much that you can't even take the time to learn what it's actually about, does not mean Bethesda thinks the same way as you do.

[Ray]

Do you see Fallout 4 announced? No, you don't. Fallout 4 is being worked on, but it's only in pre-production. TES V has been in development for 2 years. This is something you have to accept because it's the only logical conclusion. If you want to talk about the illogical conclusion we could make, it's that, despite Obsidian releasing New Vegas in a few days and supporting it with DLC likely half way into 2011, Bethesda will announce Fallout 4 soon and release it in less than 1 1/2 years from the announcement. That is a ridiculous amount of time between Fallout titles and would totally over-saturate the market. Not to mention the fact that if Bethesda has been developing Fallout 4, they wont be able to implement a single improvement from New Vegas and will have learned nothing from the improvements Obsidian made. Fallout 4 just isn't their main focus right now.

Also, the fact that you called TES a "sword play game" shows very clearly that you haven't ever actually played a TES game and therefore have no idea how great of a series it is. It also shows that arguing with you is rather pointless because you don't know about the series you're bashing. Just because you like Fallout more than a series you dislike so much that you can't even take the time to learn what it's actually about, does not mean Bethesda thinks the same way as you do.

Antibody, you've probably had to deal with far more of the Fallout 4 first stuff than I had to. I vote that you get the right to make the first "I told you so" thread sometime in the next 6 months.

[Queen Bitch]

Sorry it is not the best selling, and wont ever be.
Fallout sells are as big or better than oblivion.

Last year in an interview inquired about TES V, Todd stated more or less:
"Yes, we dont discard a sequel for TES series, big sucess with public, but now we have other priorities". Note the "don t discard", and the "other priorities".
Refresh me, what was the time between morrowind and Oblivion ? And what is the time between Fallout 3 and... Vegas ?
Sorry to burst your bubble but THE prime product now is fallout. TES is second. The company is simply seeing more potential in the Fallout franchise than the TES franchise. Hence
Silly put: BANG BANG attract more people than CLANG CLANG. And business is business.

Hence my words:
Bethesda will develop TES V when they tire or people tire of fallout. So don t expect anything before 2012.

We will see TES 5, but nowhere soon. And i really hope its better than Oblivion. Combat aside, Oblivion was a step back in design.

Actually, that's no were near what Todd was saying, in fact it was Pete Hines who said that...and Pete Hines didn't say that at all either.
This is what Pete HInes sad,
"That was not a direct quote from him. That was someone's interpretation of what he said. I know, I was there. At his QuakeCon talk he was asked when TESV is coming out and Todd replied, "Don't look for a new Elder Scrolls game in the near future." He also went on to say how much the franchise means to us and that it definitely will continue. He just wasn't going to provide any timeframe on "when." This should not be news to anyone that has been paying attention. Both Todd and I have said repeatedly that, of course, we're going to do another Elder Scrolls game. The last one was enormously popular. So was the one before that. You get the idea. So do we."

Todd was miss quoted as saying "no current plans""

Get your facts straight buddy. :hubbahubba:


Folks, I think we might have the first ever Fall Out troll on our message board!

You can find the source here...
http://kotaku.com/5339301/bethesda-clarifies-no-elder-scrolls-v-statement

[elliot mudd]

Refresh me, what was the time between morrowind and Oblivion ? And what is the time between Fallout 3 and... Vegas ?

I think that time between FO3 and FO:NV can be attributed to the drawing in of FPS-players into the Fallout franchise. People who play shooters aren't used to waiting 4 years for a game. Bethesda probably knows this, so to satisfy those fans, they let Obsidian do a spin-off while they work on something for the people who can wait 4 years . . . us.

[Campbell]

I think that time between FO3 and FO:NV can be attributed to the drawing in of FPS-players into the Fallout franchise. People who play shooters aren't used to waiting 4 years for a game. Bethesda probably knows this, so to satisfy those fans, they let Obsidian do a spin-off while they work on something for the people who can wait 4 years . . . us.

I thought it was more to appease the old Fallout fans in combination with only Bethesda really wanting to make a full, normal Elder Scrolls game, meaning they would only allow the Fallout series to be given additions from the outside.

[Flutterby]

I thought it was more to appease the old Fallout fans in combination with only Bethesda really wanting to make a full, normal Elder Scrolls game, meaning they would only allow the Fallout series to be given additions from the outside.

You know, this is a question that they might actually answer... we should ask them!

EDIT: It has been discussed

Shack: When did Bethesda start thinking about a Fallout spin-off?

Pete Hines: It's something that we've discussed at night for a while, and just had talked about doing. And we said, well, if we're going to do this, we want to do it with the right kinds of folks, and the folks that could do right by it, have the right kind of experience, the right background.

Honestly, we just felt like Obsidian was a great fit for that. They have experience doing this kind of thing, they have guys that worked on the original Fallout games. We really liked their idea for what it is they wanted to do, and we just said, "Okay."

Shack: Was there ever a stage where it was an internal project, or was the intention always to hand the franchise to a third party and publish?

Pete Hines: The idea was, put aside for a second what Bethesda Game Studios is going to do going forward, as it relates to anything. Elder Scrolls, Fallout, no matter what--forget about that for a second and, if you do, would you do this if you could do it and not affect what they wanted to do? Could they peacefully co-exist?

And we felt like, yeah, we could work with somebody else to make a game like this and still let the Bethesda Game Studios guys focus on their next projects and the things that they're working on. And so we did.

Source: http://www.shacknews.com/featuredarticle.x?id=1113

[Smokey]

You know, this is a question that they might actually answer... we should ask them!

Let me, please let me. That's a good idea. Where can I ask?

Edit: Dang. I want to hear my username of a podcast.

[DarkGypsy]

For the 25th aniversay I would expect nothing more than a re-release of an old game like Arena.

[Jhenna lee Lizama]

For the 25th aniversay I would expect nothing more than a re-release of an old game like Arena.

they already did that though

[Madison Poo]

Do you see anywhere TES V anounced ?
Do you see many sword play games in theyr to come portifolio.
Its not because they gave a port of production to Obsidian they aren t working on it.

They may be working on it, but ill bet that we wont be seing it before 2012, and depending on Vegas success it may be even after.

And to stop the auto fooling :
"Fallout smashes Oblivion sales"
Just search the net, this wasn t on one country only.

Fallout smashed Oblivion's sales because people were looking forward to "Oblivion with guns", and the fact that it was made by Bethesda, the people that made the Elder Scrolls series. I'm quite sure that Fallout wouldn't have been nearly as popular if it wasn't preceded by Oblivion. They're pretty much the same game except with a different setting and time period. I can guarantee you that ESV will smash Fallout 3's sales.

And like others have said, there's a reason that BGS gave New Vegas to Obsidian to develop -- because they need all their time and resources for ESV. They would have made NV themselves if that wasn't the case.

I still hold my prediction for holiday 2011, regardless of when the announcement is. There's no way they're going to cram in 3 FO games between Elder Scrolls releases. Don't expect Fallout 4 until at least 2013.

[Marine Arrègle]

The other option is that ZeniMax Online is working on a Fall Out online and they actually got into a legal dispute over that.

[Shae Munro]

Antibody, you've probably had to deal with far more of the Fallout 4 first stuff than I had to. I vote that you get the right to make the first "I told you so" thread sometime in the next 6 months.

I think the announcement itself will be enough of a "I told you so" moment.

Fallout smashed Oblivion's sales because people were looking forward to "Oblivion with guns", and the fact that it was made by Bethesda, the people that made the Elder Scrolls series. I'm quite sure that Fallout wouldn't have been nearly as popular if it wasn't preceded by Oblivion. They're pretty much the same game except with a different setting and time period. I can guarantee you that ESV will smash Fallout 3's sales.

And TES V's sales will be smashed by Fallout 4, which will be smashed by TES VI's, which will be smashed by Fallout 5's, and so on and so on. With each new awesome game Bethesda makes, more and more people learn of their existence, their reputation grows, and suddenly they have even more people waiting for their next game then they did before. It's not surprising that Fallout 3 surpassed Oblivion's sales because Oblivion put them on the map with the general gaming community, much more so than Morrowind did. Fallout 3 increased their reputation even more. The longer Bethesda keeps coming out with amazing games, the more sales each new game will generate.

*cough* Ignoring IHRA Drag Racing, of course...

The other option is that ZeniMax Online is working on a Fall Out online and they actually got into a legal dispute over that.

That isn't an option. By saying that you're basically saying "The other option is that Zenimax Online is working on a Fallout MMO and committed perjury in their court hearings with Interplay by saying they weren't." Zenimax Online could be working on anything in the world, but we can say for certain it isn't Fallout related.

Now lets not talk about the Interplay court battle anymore because it's not allowed.

[carley moss]

Are you guys discussing whether or not Todd's next game is going to be Fallout 4 or Elder Scrolls 5? For what its worth, I don't think it would make much sense for them to release 3 Fallout games in a row. The Fallout franchise doesn't have the same sort of appeal that other big blockbuster games have, it's not about flashy graphics and fast-paced gameplay, it's about being immersed in a world. I don't think the fans want to be immersed in more or less the same world three times in a row... I think it would just make more sense for the next game to ESV, if only for variety's sake.

[Alexander Horton]

I'm pretty sure that the next game that BGS and Bethesda Softworks releases will be Elder Scrolls V. Nobody's going to want FO4 to come out so soon after New Vegas coming out. I expect an announcement about Elder Scrolls V being announced, I'm thinking sometime in January 2011 with the game coming out later that year in OCT 2011.

[stacy hamilton]

Fallout smashed Oblivion's sales because people were looking forward to "Oblivion with guns", and the fact that it was made by Bethesda, the people that made the Elder Scrolls series. I'm quite sure that Fallout wouldn't have been nearly as popular if it wasn't preceded by Oblivion. They're pretty much the same game except with a different setting and time period. I can guarantee you that ESV will smash Fallout 3's sales.

And like others have said, there's a reason that BGS gave New Vegas to Obsidian to develop -- because they need all their time and resources for ESV. They would have made NV themselves if that wasn't the case.

I still hold my prediction for holiday 2011, regardless of when the announcement is. There's no way they're going to cram in 3 FO games between Elder Scrolls releases. Don't expect Fallout 4 until at least 2013.

ESV hoo ya ya :mohawk:

[Skrapp Stephens]

It's been a while since i've posted here but its okay I have some AMAZING NEWS. :celebrate: :celebrate:

For the past 2 weeks i've been in Las Vegas promoting my very first cook book. I know its a strange venue for something so passive because its about baking too. Its a long and boring story about someone who subscribes to my blog owning a advertising firm yadayadayada. Anyways, I just got home about 30 minutes ago, and ran to the computer to tell you what happened to me last nightish.

I was at a casino (Treasure Island), at a blackjack table (my husband went to get drinks) when an oriental man sat down next to me. I was patiently waiting for my husband when the man struck up a conversation with me. I told him who I was and the like and my husband came back and he sorta backed off. He proceeded to play blackjack until some more of his friends had arrived. They were not watching him but instead just cheering him on. He won 400$ while I was sitting there myself. Then, the amazing part...one of them said " Hurry up man were going to miss half of our own fallout new vegas party."

I nearly choked on my drink. What the heck is Bethesda doing in Vegas?!?!! :shocking: Shouldn't they be making that game still!? These were the thoughts going through my head.I asked them how they knew about Fallout New Vegas and they told me who they were and that they're publishing the game. (Which I didn't know) They explained to me what publishing means which lead me to ask.

"Well what are you making now?"

The oriental man turned to me and said "You know what? Im in a really good mood. I'm up 350$ im in Vegas and I'm just feeling great. What we're making now is in launch cue. As soon as Fallout New Vegas Hits the shelf we'll let you know all about the elderscrolls... I mean our next project"

After he blurted out the elderscrolls one of the guys with him gave him a dirty look while some of the others were a little shocked and began to laugh. I had a plane to catch so my husband and I made small talk and then it was back on a plane to Kincardine. :laugh:

Its going to be really hard for people to believe me I undestand. Maybe when the Bethesda boys get back from Vegas (I think one of them said they just arrived) they can vouche for me. At the same time though them vouching for me is like me asking them to tell me and all of us that the elderscrolls is their next project.

Also i'm kind of second guessing if he deliberately said that now because some of them said they're having a party for Kim Kardashian tonight. Why would Bethesda be having a party for Kim Kardashian. :facepalm: They could've been really drunk. Im not sure

Anyways i hope this has brightened your days as it made my plane ride so much more enjoyable. I'm scared of planes too.

-manda

[A Lo RIkIton'ton]

Had i to say something the game will be released when they tire of doing or people tire of playing FALLOUT.
TES is now relegated to second grade, this has been made clear time and again.
so i wouldnt expect anything until 2012

:rofl: HAHAHAHA! Ohh please. Second priority? :rofl: 2012? :rofl: Please stop, my belly hurts.

EDIT: Amanda, its just that... THAT'S SO [censored] AWESOME!!!

[Wanda Maximoff]

Good stuff Manda!

Thx

[Cagla Cali]

I can't vouch for anything else, but the winner of the NV sweepstakes did get a pass to Kim Kardashian's party at some swanky club, so it makes sense that Beth did as well. That of you were wasted and heard what you wanted to hear

[Sarah Bishop]

Wow I wouldn't doubt if it was true what the guy said. We should find out in the next couple months, I mean if Elder Scrolls IV was the last one then why did they release Infernal City, and put a trademark on Skyrim. The hints are out there is just a matter of when Bethesda eventually decides yeah lets reveal some of the project.