[Liv Brown]

You're pursuing the end of a rabbit hole...and too many have already followed that into wonderland. In truth, because we're dealing with the writer's recollection of a conversation (which he may well have misinterpreted himself) veiled with a translation issue (direct vs. chronological) there is nothing profitable to be gained in reading too much into what "direct/chronological sequel" really means.

lol, Honestly in my opinion until we have more information it seems as though all roads lead to wonderland and insanity...

[Brandi Norton]

Just out of interest, how likely is it that devs carry official documents on a plane, and even more so how likely is it that they wave them around?

[Kate Schofield]

Just out of interest, how likely is it that devs carry official documents on a plane, and even more so how likely is it that they wave them around?

1 in a million. Unless the dev was a moron.

[lillian luna]

It's obviously a Dwemer helicopter. :nod:

*imagines*

...

:nod:

[Jessie Rae Brouillette]

Just out of interest, how likely is it that devs carry official documents on a plane, and even more so how likely is it that they wave them around?

Only the ones that get fired.

[Nikki Morse]

It's obviously a Dwemer helicopter. :nod:

Or the product of a new TES game show called Pimp My Silt Strider!

[Pawel Platek]

Let's be honest......Bethesda are beginning to drum up the interest for this game that they have been beavering away at for the past few years and have begun with using Eurogamer as a rumour starter.
We know that Todd has already stated that if Pete Hines was to ask him to show it, then he would have a lot to show right now. That tells me that this game is not too far from completion as he also stated that once announced, it will be the shortest announcement to release that Bethesda have ever done so if he's ready to announce at Pete's instruction, the game cannot be too far away...
Am I right?
Am I right?

[Gemma Flanagan]

Let's be honest......Bethesda are beginning to drum up the interest for this game that they have been beavering away at for the past few years and have begun with using Eurogamer as a rumour starter.
We know that Todd has already stated that if Pete Hines was to ask him to show it, then he would have a lot to show right now. That tells me that this game is not too far from completion as he also stated that once announced, it will be the shortest announcement to release that Bethesda have ever done so if he's ready to announce at Pete's instruction, the game cannot be too far away...
Am I right?
Am I right?

I think people are taking the "shortest time from announcement to release" a little too optimistically. Personally I'm hoping for Holiday Season 2011 but I think that's unlikely. Beth's current shortest time frame I think was 18 months. That means if they announced ESV in December, and it came out in early summer 2012 after 17 months, it would still be the shortest they've ever done.

I mean we never know what's going on at Bethesda, maybe things have changed for the worse since Todd said what he did. Maybe they had to redo a bunch of things, or fix the engine or something.

[sam smith]

I think people are taking the "shortest time from announcement to release" a little too optimistically. Personally I'm hoping for Holiday Season 2011 but I think that's unlikely. Beth's current shortest time frame I think was 18 months. That means if they announced ESV in December, and it came out in early summer 2012 after 17 months, it would still be the shortest they've ever done.

I mean we never know what's going on at Bethesda, maybe things have changed for the worse since Todd said what he did. Maybe they had to redo a bunch of things, or fix the engine or something.

Yes, I agree. Even if this IS the beginning of the hype train for the game, the earliest we will probably see this game is the end of 2011 and that would suit everyone, right?
I'm personally looking forward to all the snippets of information and various videos that are going to be released up to the release of the game. It's all part of the fun.
My point is that I think there is substance in the claim from EuroGamer and Bethesda may be in on it.

[Mr.Broom30]

Let's look at it this way, back in 2008 they had an announcement that said there is potentially an Elder Scrolls title in 2010, this leads me to believe that they wanted to announce it back in 2009 and have it on the shelves this year but delayed it, probably because of the New Vegas deal or felt it just wasn't ready. Because in 2009 Todd said don't expect anything anytime soon, which means probably 12 to 24 months. Now they are saying they are ready to show the new game and have a lot to show, but don't think the timing is right. That was back in August when all the flair was about New Vegas and Rage. All of those MMO rumors came from two sources with unproven grounds and was entirely speculated and pumped up by the site VG247 which claimed to have a source saying it missed it's 2009 debut. Also take note of the interview for the 15 year anniversary were Todd said we make the games we like to play, and later in the podcast(I believe) he said we like to make the games we play. You put the two together and get, we like to make and play the Elder Scrolls series, just bear with us another one will happen as we have said. The key to this imo, is the we have a lot to show and would be proud to show it if asked. It just so happens that this rumor came around the VGA's in the same way an announcement rumor came around the same time of E3. Also, Todd saying we have a lot to show would mean that this is Todd's game, and not the MMO as ZeniMax Online would be promoting that and not necessarily Todd.



imo, it all adds up.

[Eliza Potter]

Why are we still talking about that Eurogamer article when we have more convincing evidence of an announcement of ESV? Remember the tweet by Andy McNamara that the February issue's cover was what people were begging him for? It is very likely to be ESV, and the timing is wonderful.

[Carolyne Bolt]

Why are we still talking about that Eurogamer article when we have more convincing evidence of an announcement of ESV? Remember the tweet by Andy McNamara that the February issue's cover was what people were begging him for? It is very likely to be ESV, and the timing is wonderful.

True, that's another piece of the puzzle that makes it all add up as we have all been predicting a February reveal and have been bugging him about ES V.

[Marlo Stanfield]

Why are we still talking about that Eurogamer article when we have more convincing evidence of an announcement of ESV? Remember the tweet by Andy McNamara that the February issue's cover was what people were begging him for? It is very likely to be ESV, and the timing is wonderful.

The February cover would be revealed in January, right?

[NeverStopThe]

The February cover would be revealed in January, right?

That is correct.

[Emmanuel Morales]

when abouts in january would that cover be announced? start of the month, middle of the month?

[katsomaya Sanchez]

when abouts in january would that cover be announced? start of the month, middle of the month?

Around the 5th - 8th, I think.

[Elizabeth Falvey]

1 in a million. Unless the dev was a moron.

Not necessarily... I don't want to get into another tedious dissection of the word choice of the original Eurogamer rumour, but it's not clear to me that "official documents" means some sort of extremely revelatory document. An official document here might just have been a minor internal memo written on company letterhead, with some sort of oblique reference to the development of ESV. I don't think it's so implausible that a developer would carry those sorts of documents on a plane, if she/he was travelling for business, or wanted to read over some business correspondence, or whatever. Leaking them is another matter, of course.

Also, just for further [censored] and giggles, it need not be the case that the "direct sequel" remark comes from those "official documents". Recall that the rumour states: "The same source confirmed, with official game documents in hand, that this will be the chronological(/direct) sequel to what happened in The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion". This is consistent with the source telling the Eurogamer dude that ESV is a "direct sequel", and the documents containing no information of the sort. But this might not matter so much - if the rumour is to be believed (and I doubt that it is), then the "direct sequel" remark would seem to have equal credibility whether or not it was contained in those "official documents".

[Kirsty Wood]

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/bethesda-pencils-in-new-elder-scrolls-title-for-2010 + http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-11-23-rumour-elder-scrolls-5-in-the-works = 2011 release.

Mark my words

[Craig Martin]

Just a question in regards to the Eurogamer rumor: Why would a Bethesda employee / developer be on a plane to Denmark or anywhere else in Europe? I'm skeptical about the whole rumor as it is, but what would a Bethesda Game Studios employee be doing in Europe? I personally can't think of any reason to fly over to Europe in regards to the development of TESV other than voice over work for a language other than English (did TES IV have voice overs in any other language?).

[Jonathan Windmon]

WIth the game informer tweet... I wouldnt count on this to much becuase we are not the only people begging for games. There are many other games that people are wanting and asking him about. Yes we have been asking him "4ever" but just about every tweet that is made like this it turns out to be a let down. I mean very well could be still but Im just not gona get to excited about it... Yet.

[Jarrett Willis]

Should we be checking out the VGA site at all? Are they going to be releasing anything else on there before the 11th?

[Charles Weber]

Geoff said lots of news next week, and after that hasn't said a thing lol.

[Eduardo Rosas]

Just a question in regards to the Eurogamer rumor: Why would a Bethesda employee / developer be on a plane to Denmark or anywhere else in Europe? I'm skeptical about the whole rumor as it is, but what would a Bethesda Game Studios employee be doing in Europe?

Bethesda *Softworks* opened an office in the Netherlands in September. It's not too hard to imagine a Danish-speaking journalist not distinguishing between the two.

http://news.bigdownload.com/2010/09/07/bethesda-softworks-opens-benelux-office/

[Ezekiel Macallister]

Where is this tweet you speak of.

And from the "rumored" interview, it's still using gamebryo. Better frickin' look like an african white christ from space. Or I'll be slightly disappointed and still get the game anyway.

...So to clarify? I should expect news next week.. and the preview(picture only) for a magazine being released in february should be out in the early days of January (anywhere from the 5th to the 9th or so). Lovely.

[rae.x]

Where is this tweet you speak of.

And from the "rumored" interview, it's still using gamebryo. Better frickin' look like an african white christ from space. Or I'll be slightly disappointed and still get the game anyway.

...So to clarify? I should expect news next week.. and the preview(picture only) for a magazine being released in february should be out in the early days of January (anywhere from the 5th to the 9th or so). Lovely.

No, not news relating to TES...just in general for the VGA's.