Official TES V Speculation Thread #84

Post » Thu Jun 17, 2010 4:30 pm

When this speculation ends, though, a new, more vicious speculation will begin...the actual plot, design, and content of the game.

I like the Speculation Thread because we all can get along, for the most part. When ESV gets announced, there will be a large, vocal group of people calling for the boycott of Bethesda and its games because a certain thing is missing, and so on. At least when the game is announced, we can all happily say that we were here from the beginning.

Yeah but there isn't anything I can research from the "real" world that will give me any insight into the "possibility" of said features included... so my game will be over, regardless of the crazy strife these forums will endure. You are right about it though, as even though I never officially joined these forums, I lurked for years, in fact just after I picked up Morrowind for the first time... I saw it happen with the announcement of Oblivion, so we will see it with this new game too.

What I think will blow peoples' minds is if the game isn't in Skyrim... We shall see, soon enough.
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Post » Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:13 pm

Duke Nukem was fairly recently picked up by Gearbox. If it had a Game Informer cover, it would be one of the first real previews of the game since it was picked up. Obviously that would be fairly appealing to Game Informer. But the attractiveness of a preview isn't of debate here, what is is whether or not the use of "forever" or rather "4ever" in the tweet was a hint that the game was Duke Nukem Forever or a game that was 4th in a series. As I've said before, I don't buy that theory. I really doubt McNamara puts that much thought into his tweets.

As for whether or not most covers are of previously announced games or newly announced games, well, most of the time it's of a newly announced game, but there are quite a few instances of games that were announced way before their Game Informer cover. You can view the cover archive http://www.gameinformer.com/mag/covers.aspx.


I'm with you on the implausibility of the hypothesis that McNamara agonises over his word choice when tweeting (twittering?). But I think the attractiveness of a preview of DNF is a relevant consideration here, where the game is to work out the likelihood that the Feb GI cover is TES V. Whatever else we can take from McNamara's tweet, it's pretty clear that he thinks the cover is of a game about which people have been craving information. DNF fits that bill (even if we already know a decent amount about its development). My thought was that there might some other considerations which rule out DNF - namely, that GI covers are typically of games yet to be announced, so that rules out DNF. Your post, and the ensuing discussion, undermined that line of thought.

But probably the main reason I am more confident than not that the Feb GI cover will be TES V is Pete's tweet that Bethesda has fixed an announcement date. I would have thought - although I'm hardly a marketing guru - that Bethesda wouldn't have fixed an announcement date (and be confident of meeting that date) many months in advance. (Of course, that TES V will be announced soon is consistent with TES V not being the Feb GI cover.) Does this seem reasonable? How likely is it that Bethesda would have fixed an announcement date in early December, but that announcement date is in (say) April, as opposed to January?
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Post » Thu Jun 17, 2010 8:14 am

I don't know why, but this made me think of the scene in Elf when Santa congratulates all the elves on a christmas well done after he delivered all the presents, and then immediately says "And now it's time to start preparations for next year's christmas!" and then all the elves start working again.
That's kind of what this "game" of speculation is going to be like I think. After it is officially announced (hopefully February GI) we will be overjoyed but then start speculating about the details of the game. And then after the game is out we will all be ecstatic and go play it, and then after a while come back here to speculate on DLC, and after that's all well and done and Bethesda goes quiet again, so begins the cycle again.
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Post » Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:46 pm

The good thing about waiting this long for Bethesda to announce something is that we won't have to wait several weeks or a month for some concept art, like what's going on in Dragon Age 2. I'm sure we'll see some concept art when the game gets announced, but we'll definitely see actual footage more often.
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Post » Thu Jun 17, 2010 8:13 am

The good thing about waiting this long for Bethesda to announce something is that we won't have to wait several weeks or a month for some concept art, like what's going on in Dragon Age 2. I'm sure we'll see some concept art when the game gets announced, but we'll definitely see actual footage more often.

I didn't get to see or hear about TES:IV's or FO3's or FONV's releases, but I got the impression that they revealed some concept art/in game videos at the announcement. If this is true, I doubt they wouldn't show any this time, after all, they must of been working on the 'secret project' for a few years now.
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Post » Thu Jun 17, 2010 4:46 am

I agree... as nice as it is to be recognized, I think there are a slew of people on here who have helped keep this place viable... I think maybe we have been a bit more vocal than others, but I have seen some singular posts, really well thought out things from some pretty bright people on here (certainly including Mr. Tissuebox there, and Mikedzines too).

And for those who think that this place serves no purpose, I will say this much, I have had a lot of fun (granted my definition of fun might be a bit askew) in the "game" of speculation. I am not really emotionally invested, so the ebb and flow of excitement and let downs from the ultimate guessing game only serves to fuel the elusive goal. Once TESV is actually announced, I think I'll be a little sad that the game is over... kind of like when the credits roll after the final boss battle. Though the difference here being that I have a much better understanding of trademarks, marketing, and the history of video games than I ever thought I would even need... haha.


Ah...yes! Mikedzines is another one (sorry for forgetting you Mike!)

I'm definitely into the whole "game" of speculation. I enjoy the rigors of a good debate.
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Post » Thu Jun 17, 2010 12:13 pm

Bethesda, what we're saying is: please don't announce the game.
:rolleyes:
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Post » Thu Jun 17, 2010 1:23 pm

Ever here the phrase "Once someone gets a taste of something good, they will only ask for more." People can't be satisfied with what they have and Bethesda knows this. Letting down their fans won't hurt their sales but it does hurt their reputation, and the eyes of the people who have to read all the complaints they have sent in, so we should just wait for a definitive sign that "hey this is coming" before we go jump of the deep end about not having it revealed in the February cover or some other baseless rumor(even if the base feels like it is a mile long). I honestly believe TESV is in the works from what info they have given us, and I have in fact already said why the info they have given us is about TESV. But from what I have read (and a lot of personal speculation) we won't see the reveal for quite a while (6 months-2 years). I believe it will not be revealed until the beta tests are going on because if they are in alpha testing at the moment (which is right after conceptual information has been gathered and formed into a playable game) they might discover a major error that could set them back months. Trust me when I say video game creation is incredibly hard and programming in general is both time consuming and it can be ruined by a small typing error, so much review has to go into the making of a game that it can take half as long as it took to make the game itself. What Bethesda has been doing is not toying with our emotions like cruel, spineless, evil, jerks but trying to keep marketing out of the game until it is a sure thing (not as in the sense that it will happen, but as in the sense that what will happen in it). Marketing can ruin games by having a release date that is set back weeks, months, years, or past infinium (canceled) from when they say it will be which may anger people to the point of not buying the game until its price is dropped from the $60 a new game costs to $20-$30, or by having a title released to early and it being incomplete. The minute it is revealed it becomes property of a marketing committee thats only goal is to make the company money and get as many people to buy it as possible. Ever been let down by a games theatrical trailers and exaggerated gameplay (you have and lie if you say no), that is because the marketing team which is usually separated from the game developers themselves gets a hold of it and tries to photoshop a masterpiece from whatever they have. With a culmination of testing and polishing once the games actual design and gameplay are finished will halt the game for quite a while. Even linear games take months to polish up to the point of becoming a master piece, and most of those follow very cliche stories and gameplay mechanics. While openworld games like the TES series, WoW, and Two Worlds have many features that can easily be overlooked by developers and never seen by the average adventurer, but are found later by their true fan base and end up being half finished or incredibly buggy. These games take a long time to be finished to the point of perfection (and often never are) so having to wait 4-6 years for them should be nothing. I am very impatient myself and would get on my hands and knees and beg for some tangible piece of information about the developers progression, but one should just find comfort in knowing it will come. Enough has been said to figure their project is TES related (in my opinion which again I already made a post as to why), but with statements like this from Todd Howard "You spend a lot of time trying to design a game, but then also deal with all new technology. We’re trying to, going forward, find a better balance between those two, so that we’re not just satisfied with something working." we can figure that it will take time and if you can't wait for it to happen then please divert your attention to something else for a year. I find nothing wrong with this speculation thread and believe it to be both useful and stress releaving, but shouldn't become a place where one just lets of anger because we are not hearing news about something we have been told we wont hear about. So to sum everything up we won't hear about until they can release enough to fill up our expectations on what a awesome game it will be. When they do we can expect a multitude of screenshots and gameplay trailers, along with many sessions of Q and A. So mellow out and enjoy the ride, it might be a long one.
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Post » Thu Jun 17, 2010 4:05 pm

that's one nice wall-o-text right there
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Post » Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:08 am

Sorry, for some reason I don't like making paragraphs on message boards. If it is problematic then :sleep: just don't read it.
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Post » Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:40 pm

snip


Good point, to which I agree. I do not much enjoy reading rants in this thread, and there's a general mood of pessimism against Bethesda that I often wish would depart from forums. We're not entitled to demanding TES:V; and Bethesda doesn't owe us anything.


Sorry, for some reason I don't like making paragraphs on message boards. If it is problematic then :sleep: just don't read it.


Which is usually what I do; but in this case I suffered through it.
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Post » Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:10 am

I can't read it, too confusing.

I is teh stoopid mayhaps
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Post » Thu Jun 17, 2010 6:46 am

I can't read it, too confusing.

I is teh stoopid mayhaps


Lol... :rofl:
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Post » Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:18 am

I honestly believe TESV is in the works from what info they have given us, and I have in fact already said why the info they have given us is about TESV. But from what I have read (and a lot of personal speculation) we won't see the reveal for quite a while (6 months-2 years). I believe it will not be revealed until the beta tests are going on because if they are in alpha testing at the moment (which is right after conceptual information has been gathered and formed into a playable game) they might discover a major error that could set them back months. Trust me when I say video game creation is incredibly hard and programming in general is both time consuming and it can be ruined by a small typing error, so much review has to go into the making of a game that it can take half as long as it took to make the game itself.


1. The game they're currently working on, which we are assuming is TES V, has been in development for 2 years and 1 month.
2. They currently have a team of ~90 people and most of them are working on this game.
3. Todd Howard said way back in August that there is "a lot of game to show" and that he would be proud to show it if he was forced to (back in August)
4. So obviously, this game is not in such an early stage in development like you seem to think it is.
5. Pete Hines just said a few days ago that, unlike back in August, they now have an exact date they will be announcing it on.

Taking all that into consideration, it's pretty obvious an announcement is coming soon and not anywhere near as far off as 2 years from now. Even 6 months is a stretch. If it isn't revealed in February, then it wont be much longer until it is revealed.
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Post » Thu Jun 17, 2010 1:55 am

If that is so, then let it be. I never saw that before and I really hope it is true. The entire reason I wrote that was because many people seemed like they were entitled to knowing when it would be out and it happening soon. I just think if it for us, we can wait. But if the adverse is true and it is revealed soon then you can bet I will be incredibly happy. It is just people like to hope and get angry when their hopes are crushed. They then put their anger onto someone else for crushing a thought they themselves came up with with little direct evidence towards it being true. I was just hoping people could calm down. But hey, I am one man with many faults and limited knowledge, if I am wrong then it is not like anything bad would happen. The opposite is in fact true, if I am wrong then something really good would happen. Again my personal views and personal biased opinions.
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Post » Thu Jun 17, 2010 5:26 pm

5. Pete Hines just said a few days ago that, unlike back in August, they now have an exact date they will be announcing it on.


Source?
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Post » Thu Jun 17, 2010 1:37 pm

Has anyone posted this allready?
http://jobs.zenimax.com/index.php?a=view_job&jobid=14
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Post » Thu Jun 17, 2010 6:39 am

Source?


http://twitter.com/DCDeacon/status/10011902629388288

Edit: added direct link.

Has anyone posted this allready?
http://jobs.zenimax.com/index.php?a=view_job&jobid=14


Yes, the job posting have been discussed. Unfortunately, they've been up for quite a while so there's not much info regarding TES V that can be gained from looking at them.
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Post » Thu Jun 17, 2010 4:20 am

Has anyone posted this allready?
http://jobs.zenimax.com/index.php?a=view_job&jobid=14

Experience with The Elder Scrolls Construction Set or GECK a plus and Design and document stories and quests for future next generation products lol
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Post » Thu Jun 17, 2010 6:10 am

http://twitter.com/DCDeacon/status/10011902629388288

Edit: added direct link.



Interesting.
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Post » Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:16 am

Has anyone posted this allready?
http://jobs.zenimax.com/index.php?a=view_job&jobid=14


Yes...many times already.
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Post » Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:47 am

1. The game they're currently working on, which we are assuming is TES V, has been in development for 2 years and 1 month.
2. They currently have a team of ~90 people and most of them are working on this game.
3. Todd Howard said way back in August that there is "a lot of game to show" and that he would be proud to show it if he was forced to (back in August)
4. So obviously, this game is not in such an early stage in development like you seem to think it is.
5. Pete Hines just said a few days ago that, unlike back in August, they now have an exact date they will be announcing it on.

Taking all that into consideration, it's pretty obvious an announcement is coming soon and not anywhere near as far off as 2 years from now. Even 6 months is a stretch. If it isn't revealed in February, then it wont be much longer until it is revealed.

This.
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Post » Thu Jun 17, 2010 6:13 am

Haha...5 1s= 5......Wow man, has the speculation thread come to this? Yes it has.

I said 1-01-11 because that would be app a week before the Feb. GI cover announcement. Correct me if I am wrong? Probably Am.

But 1-11-11 would be epic.



Wow and suddenly denial has led us to occultic numerology
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Post » Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:44 am

1. The game they're currently working on, which we are assuming is TES V, has been in development for 2 years and 1 month.
2. They currently have a team of ~90 people and most of them are working on this game.
3. Todd Howard said way back in August that there is "a lot of game to show" and that he would be proud to show it if he was forced to (back in August)
4. So obviously, this game is not in such an early stage in development like you seem to think it is.
5. Pete Hines just said a few days ago that, unlike back in August, they now have an exact date they will be announcing it on.

Taking all that into consideration, it's pretty obvious an announcement is coming soon and not anywhere near as far off as 2 years from now. Even 6 months is a stretch. If it isn't revealed in February, then it wont be much longer until it is revealed.


I 100% agree. It IS far along, and that's a fact, and if they say that they're ready to announce it, and it's going to be the shortest time between announcement and release... It'll be announced soon. There's NO reason why'd they wait 6 months, according to what they've said.
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Post » Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:07 am

I 100% agree. It IS far along, and that's a fact, and if they say that they're ready to announce it, and it's going to be the shortest time between announcement and release... It'll be announced soon. There's NO reason why'd they wait 6 months, according to what they've said.


Assuming it is far along (near completion, with graphics finished), the longer they wait before announcing/releasing the more time the industry has to catch up to/surpass the graphics of TESV. If it is near completion then they must announce soon to stay ahead of the pack, assuming that's what they will want to be doing (going off of prior games).

So 1/1/11 will be marked on my calendar, along with the VGAs of course.
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