[Phoenix Draven]

There is NO OFFICIAL information about a new TES game release.

This thread is for member speculation of when and if TES V will be released. This is where you post any new information about when it might be released, tidbits from interviews which mention it and such.

It is also where you post your theories of when you think it might come out based on guesses, number crunching, rumors or such.

This is about speculating on the next TES game and when -- or if -- it is going to be released. It is not a place for discussion of what is going to be in it, what type of graphics there will be, or any other subject of that type; they belong in the http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1112872-tes-v-ideas-and-suggestions-177/. If those kind of posts get raised they will be deleted and the poster warned for going off topic.


Please note that this thread is not a personal chat box and that one liners and posts of little substance will be considered as spam and thus the poster will be subject to warnings and suspensions.

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More recent interviews of note:
April 27th, 2009: http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/974/974529p1.html
June 25th, 2009: http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=24211 (particularly this quoted part)August 14th, 2009: http://news.bigdownload.com/2009/08/14/quakecon-2009-todd-howard-keynote-highlights/
August 17th, 2009: Pete clarify many things of what happen in QuakeCon in this blog: http://bethblog.com/index.php/2009/08/17/clarifying-about-next-elder-scrolls-game-mmo-etc/
January 6th, 2010: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/kotaku/2010/01/06/chatting-with-fallout-and-oblivions-todd-howard, at the 9:30-10:30 mark Todd Howard said: "[...] we spend a lot of time adding to the engine, [...] and we've sort of been doing that with the big new game [we've been] making since we finished Fallout 3. You know we finished Fallout 3 over a year ago so that whole time has been spent re-doing a large part of our basic technology[...]".
May 4th 2010: http://www.joystiq.com/2010/05/04/interview-bethesdas-pete-hines/ about future games
July 29th 2010: http://www.industrygamers.com/news/bethesdas-todd-howard-on-rpg-development-3d-not-supporting-nintendo-and-more/
August 2010: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-08-16-bethesdas-todd-howard-interview?page=1 and an http://pc.ign.com/articles/111/1112464p1.html

PLEASE NOTE: AS PER MODERATOR REQUESTS IN THE PREVIOUS THREAD, PLEASE CONFINE THIS DISCUSSION TO SPECULATION TO BETHESDA GAME STUDIOS / TES:V. DISCUSSION OF ZENIMAX ONLINE STUDIOS PROJECTS OR AN ES MMO SHOULD GO IN THE http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1119156-official-tes-multiplayer-thread/.

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Note that Bethesda Game Studios is NOT working on Fallout: New Vegas, Rage, Brink, or Hunted: The Demon's Forge -- Nor do they develop MMOs.

[Gemma Flanagan]

So when TES5 releases I think they'll turn up the radiant AI. They had to tone it down for oblivion but I believe it'll definitely be tweaked and improved in TES5 with more time to work on it. I know there's a thread on this but I feel it belongs more in speculation.

[Gavin boyce]

I'd give it a couple months and we'll hear an announcement about the game.

[Siobhan Wallis-McRobert]

So when TES5 releases I think they'll turn up the radiant AI. They had to tone it down for oblivion but I believe it'll definitely be tweaked and improved in TES5 with more time to work on it. I know there's a thread on this but I feel it belongs more in speculation.

Todd said in an EGM interview that they revamped many aspects of their engine/tech, including the AI, so better AI is confirmed.

[Sarah Bishop]

Todd Howard and Pete Hines http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/13/75378-TrollFace.png for the past few months. If Morrowind was the last game, by now we would be playing Oblivion, and that's even after it got delayed. But we haven't even had an announcement for ESV yet, and when we do, it'll be at least another year before it comes out.

I know it'll come out sooner or later but it sure is frustrating :brokencomputer:

Anyway, my prediction is an announcement in Spring 2011 and release in late 2012, early 2013 after multiple delays.

[Emma Parkinson]

Waiting for TES5 to be announced has gotten really old. After 84 speculation threads what's even left to be talked about? It's been almost 5 years since Oblivion was released for god's sake.

I know most here will disagree with me, but I think it's doing a real disservice to the fans to keep stringing us along all this time for nothing. It doesn't even seem worth it any more.

[Chica Cheve]

Waiting for TES5 to be announced has gotten really old. After 84 speculation threads what's even left to be talked about? It's been almost 5 years since Oblivion was released for god's sake.

I know most here will disagree with me, but I think it's doing a real disservice to the fans to keep stringing us along all this time for nothing. It doesn't even seem worth it any more.

Yeah that's what I'm saying. I love Bethesda and the Elder Scrolls games, but to make us wait more than 5 years without even a hint of when the next one is coming out? By the time it's released, likely in 2012 or later, it will have been 7 or 8 years since Oblivion. I know a lot of people will say they'd rather wait until they're finished to release it as to avoid delays, but let's face it.. this is such a complex game that I can almost guarantee you there will be delays and a long wait regardless. They said it's be the shortest time frame between announcement and release, and the shortest so far is 18 months. So they probably mean it'll be a 17 and a half month window.

Giving the fans a few screens wouldn't be so hard. They act like announcing it and releasing some screenshots before the 6 year mark would destroy the game and no one would buy it.

[Robyn Howlett]

Waiting for TES5 to be announced has gotten really old. After 84 speculation threads what's even left to be talked about? It's been almost 5 years since Oblivion was released for god's sake.

I know most here will disagree with me, but I think it's doing a real disservice to the fans to keep stringing us along all this time for nothing. It doesn't even seem worth it any more.

I think we need to stop with the speculation threads too. It's kind of dumb at this point. We talked about so much, and we keep repeating the same "I predict it will be announced in a month or two" statement. It's also deters from other conversations on the forums.

[Sian Ennis]

Well Fallout 3 was only released in 2008. That's not such a large gap between games for BGS. Not only that, but as developers I think they prefer to work on secret projects because the pressure to meet deadlines once you've announced and hyped a game just isn't conducive to making quality products.

There can be little reasonable doubt that BGS are working on ES:V. We all want an announcement, but I think people need to consider more carefully the implications developer side of telling everyone what you're working on and what it will be like.

[sexy zara]

I'd give it a couple months and we'll hear an announcement about the game.

Problem is, we've been saying this for the past 3 years...

[Siobhan Wallis-McRobert]

Problem is, we've been saying this for the past 3 years...

And why is that a problem?

They're jus' takin' their time 'sall. Nuth'n t'be worried 'bout, y'all.

Oh how I enjoy mimicking accents in writing. Seriously though, I'm personally cool with it.

[+++CAZZY]

And why is that a problem?

We've been expecting an announcement to be just over the horizon... for 3 years. Nothing really different to now except we're slightly further along. No more evidence, no more clues. Just the same persistent hope.

[Sabrina Schwarz]

Yeah that's what I'm saying. I love Bethesda and the Elder Scrolls games, but to make us wait more than 5 years without even a hint of when the next one is coming out? By the time it's released, likely in 2012 or later, it will have been 7 or 8 years since Oblivion. I know a lot of people will say they'd rather wait until they're finished to release it as to avoid delays, but let's face it.. this is such a complex game that I can almost guarantee you there will be delays and a long wait regardless. They said it's be the shortest time frame between announcement and release, and the shortest so far is 18 months. So they probably mean it'll be a 17 and a half month window.

Giving the fans a few screens wouldn't be so hard. They act like announcing it and releasing some screenshots before the 6 year mark would destroy the game and no one would buy it.

If they produce a screen and graphics are not the same as that screen people will throw a fit. If the screen has a feature that isn't in the game. People will throw a fit. If they announce that the game will be released around such time and it's delayed. People will throw a fit. Blame people for throwing fits as to why it's so secret. They're not stringing anyone along. They refuse to talk about it. They aren't giving any info and avoid the subject in most cases. The fans are stringing themselves along through all this speculation and convincing themselves that it'll be out in Y months. During Oblivion release there were thousands of angry cries and even to this day people post the screen of the knight with his sword drawn and point out "Oblivion does not look like this and doesn't have mounted combat. Was this screen false advertisemant?" To this day you still see threads like that. Over one screen. If I was Bethesda? I wouldn't say a word either until I'm absolutely sure what's likely to stay in and what's not and have a very likely release in mind.

[Fluffer]

If they produce a screen and graphics are not the same as that screen people will throw a fit. If the screen has a feature that isn't in the game. People will throw a fit. If they announce that the game will be released around such time and it's delayed. People will throw a fit. Blame people for throwing fits as to why it's so secret. They're not stringing anyone along. They refuse to talk about it. They aren't giving any info and avoid the subject in most cases. The fans are stringing themselves along through all this speculation and convincing themselves that it'll be out in Y months. During Oblivion release there were thousands of angry cries and even to this day people post the screen of the knight with his sword drawn and point out "Oblivion does not look like this and doesn't have mounted combat. Was this screen false advertisemant?" To this day you still see threads like that. Over one screen. If I was Bethesda? I wouldn't say a word either until I'm absolutely sure what's likely to stay in and what's not and have a very likely release in mind.

We know this stuff happens with every game, whether behind the scenes or publicly, as well. I have seen Arena's gameplay trailer, Daggerfall's demo, Morrowind's screenshots, and Oblivion's E3 videos, and all of the games have features missing that were in the pre-release advertising. Bethesda will, and likely have, cut things from TES V that they originally planned. I genuinely believe they are going for a "let's not have the fans complaining about false advertising quite as much, this time" mentality after what happened with Oblivion's criticism.

[Marilú]

We know this stuff happens with every game, whether behind the scenes or publicly, as well. I have seen Arena's gameplay trailer, Daggerfall's demo, Morrowind's screenshots, and Oblivion's E3 videos, and all of the games have features missing that were in the pre-release advertising. Bethesda will, and likely have, cut things from TES V that they originally planned. I genuinely believe they are going for a "let's not have the fans complaining about false advertising quite as much, this time" mentality after what happened with Oblivion's criticism.

Exactly. Personally, I might be dissapointed something is cut but I also understand why. Unfortunately, not everyone else is as understanding. I don't blame for Bethesda not wishing to deal with that headache this time around. In fact, had I have been in charge (and I'm sure people are glad that I'm not) a lot of the information such as they revamped their engine I would not have said a word about.

[Zoe Ratcliffe]

Exactly. Personally, I might be dissapointed something is cut but I also understand why. Unfortunately, not everyone else is as understanding. I don't blame for Bethesda not wishing to deal with that headache this time around. In fact, had I have been in charge (and I'm sure people are glad that I'm not) a lot of the information such as they revamped their engine I would not have said a word about.

Well, then people would keep complaining about Gamebryo being outdated, or perhaps they will continue to do that, anyway, all while demanding TES games run on engines only suggested because of graphics and ignoring the actual technical factors that are involved in choosing a proper game engine for a game, calling Bethesda too proud, lazy, and/or cheap.

[Smokey]

Well, then people would keep complaining about Gamebryo being outdated, or perhaps they will continue to do that, anyway, all while demanding TES games run on engines only suggested because of graphics and ignoring the actual technical factors that are involved in choosing a proper game engine for a game, calling Bethesda too proud, lazy, and/or cheap.

I'm not saying I wouldn't revamp. I would revamp. I just wouldn't say anything at all. People wouldn't be sure if we're using gamebryo, something else, or an improved gamebryo because nothing would have been said at all.

[Eire Charlotta]

I'm not saying I wouldn't revamp. I would revamp. I just wouldn't say anything at all. People wouldn't be sure if we're using gamebryo, something else, or an improved gamebryo because nothing would have been said at all.

I knew what you were saying. I'm just saying people would complain, regardless.

[Adrian Powers]

People are getting fed up of waiting and thats completely understandable. It's over 4 1/2 years since the last game in what is supposed to be a "live" series. There isn't longer to go though (we hope). As pete hines said to someone on twitter: "all will become clear before too long".

[Zualett]

As pete hines said to someone on twitter: "all will become clear before too long".

I wonder if the tweet means that they are remaining silent for the benefit of everyone, not just themselves.

What other reasons might there be for such a long silence other than those commonly accepted?

Edit: After thinking, what do we know about the MMO that Zenimax is creating? Why do we assume that a game can either be only an MMO, or only a single player? Maybe Zenimax is killing two birds with one stone and making an online enhancement for TES5, and they're being silent to avoid flak for attempting it, and more flak if they fail.

Also, that maybe why they are so upset with Interplays MMO, they might want to do the same thing with Fallout4.

[GPMG]

Sorry for no actual information in this post, I really hate spamming it :( , but I don't know where else it would go. So please bare with my short little rant. In all honesty I want > 1 year release date after product preview, but I wouldn't mind if they just released a few sreens dubbing it as "secret project". We all know what it is, but if they released screenies of trees or maybe a screenshot of the clouds so we could see the graphics quality of this "secret project" I would be happy. :touched: As it is now, I am getting a little agitated as to when they will release it. In all honesty I can stand waiting 1-2 more years for it (BUT I DON'T WANT TOO :flame: ) and I wouldn't be bothered much by the wait, but if I had just a teaser pic of some unnamed game from Bethesda I could settle down for another couple months. Alas, it will never be, until the official info is released, because too many a impatient people would demand more and more :nope: and chaos and riots will ensue (a wee bit exaggerated to get my point across). I know I have to be patient and wait like a good little boy (actually an advlt but it is a figure of speech), but at this point enough time has passed were I am starting to demand a little collateral to make sure I can keep putting my trust into The Elder Scrolls series. It is not as though I won't buy it when it comes out, it is just how highly I revere Bethesda as the all-powerful game makers they are (by my current amount of reverence for them).

[Tiff Clark]

You guys keep saying, "It has been 4-5 years since Oblivion, we want Elder Scrolls V!"
And you do realize that 2-3 of these years was used to develop Fallout 3 and that a great deal of time was spent in improving and revamping the engine?
Let's see, pre-production can take a lot of time, I imagine they spent some time during Fallout 3 to do it, and a bit after it's release. When the FO3 released, the team split into a bigger and a smaller team, one for the DLCs and another for their new game (TESV), just in 2009 they were able to stop with Fallout and move the whole team to TESV, so now the new game has been in full-speed development for almost 2 years.

I really believe that TESV will be out in 2011. But this whole five years argument is stupid.

[Lyd]

I really believe that TESV will be out in 2011. But this whole five years argument is stupid.

The Elder Scrolls games go in 5 year terms silly.... Kinda like a president leaves office every 4 years, the latest Elder Scrolls gets out dated every 5...

[kevin ball]

The Elder Scrolls games go in 5 year terms silly.... Kinda like a president leaves office every 4 years, the latest Elder Scrolls gets out dated every 5...

Huh? Oblivion was released 3 years after Morrowind which was released 6 years after Daggerfall which was released 2 years after Arena. There's nothing regular here.

[Rob Davidson]

Huh? Oblivion was released 3 years after Morrowind which was released 6 years after Daggerfall which was released 2 years after Arena. There's nothing regular here.

Oh God, the code is incorrect, IT'S INCORRECT!!! I was just saying what that guy was talking about.