[Big mike]

Just to be devil's advocate, that's not exactly true. Look at Duke Nukem Forever. Compare the 1997 screenshots to the ones released now.

:rofl: lol, can you really count that one, I mean with it's situation it's kind of unique from other games

[lilmissparty]

Not trying to be the grammar nazi, but you know it's "shock and awe" right, not aww?

But I agree with you, concept art isn't too exciting compared to a trailer or at the very least, real screenshots.

Yes, thanks didn't realize that typo .

Yeah, even a game such as GW2 showed off screen shots before doing it's developer diary if I'm not mistaken.

[Marion Geneste]

Just to be devil's advocate, that's not exactly true. Look at Duke Nukem Forever. Compare the 1997 screenshots to the ones released now.

Wait, what? Is that the game that had it's engine switched several times during development? They took 13 years to develop it? Why would they do such a foolish thing?

[Anthony Santillan]

This just in:
Elder Scrolls fans will be delighted to know that the wait continues for Elder Scrolls 5.

[michael flanigan]

This just in:
Elder Scrolls fans will be delighted to know that the wait continues for Elder Scrolls 5.

Now back to Jim for the weather:

"VGAs with a side of a 5 year anniversary coming up"




What are after the VGAs (major gaming events)?

[Dragonz Dancer]

Now back to Jim for the weather:

"VGAs with a side of a 5 year anniversary coming up"




What are after the VGAs (major gaming events)?

Absolutely none at least until next year, In theory Bethesda could have there own press conference at the end of the VGA's.
When I say none, I am of course referring to MAJOR gaming events.

[Roberta Obrien]

I honestly don't see any reason why Bethesda couldn't be planning to announce the game at the VGAs, then follow that up with a GI cover and article elaborating on what it is and why it's exciting. I mean, yes, for the hardcoe audience that reads gaming blogs and keeps up on gaming news, Bethesda could announce the game with a simple splash page on ElderScrolls.com and we'd all know about it on the same day, but the majority of people who play TES are not the hardcoe. If they want to reach the bulk of their audience - average gamers - quickly, if they want them to be on the lookout for more TESV information (an upcoming GI cover/article, for example), then I can't think of a better way than the VGAs. There will be average gamers paying attention, and there will be lots of them. If they made an extravaganza of it (prioritizing themselves as the very last announcement/teaser of the show, possibly), it would even stick in the minds of both the viewers and the press, solving that annoying problem of over-saturation that Pete Hines avoids like the plague.

I'm not saying the plan is end-all, be all - but it's what I'd do, definitely.

[Richard]

Not trying to be the grammar nazi, but you know it's "shock and awe" right, not aww?

Not trying to be a wit nazi, but he may have just used an onomatopoeia for a double entendre.

(Vault_13 had to use spell check for the big word)

[Naomi Ward]

I honestly don't see any reason why Bethesda couldn't be planning to announce the game at the VGAs, then follow that up with a GI cover and article elaborating on what it is and why it's exciting. I mean, yes, for the hardcoe audience that reads gaming blogs and keeps up on gaming news, Bethesda could announce the game with a simple splash page on ElderScrolls.com and we'd all know about it on the same day, but the majority of people who play TES are not the hardcoe. If they want to reach the bulk of their audience - average gamers - quickly, if they want them to be on the lookout for more TESV information (an upcoming GI cover/article, for example), then I can't think of a better way than the VGAs. There will be average gamers paying attention, and there will be lots of them. If they made an extravaganza of it (prioritizing themselves as the very last announcement/teaser of the show, possibly), it would even stick in the minds of both the viewers and the press, solving that annoying problem of over-saturation that Pete Hines avoids like the plague.

I'm not saying the plan is end-all, be all - but it's what I'd do, definitely.

Well I'm not sure exactly why, but that's not the way they've been doing it which is why people assume they are going to continue their trend. In all honesty there isn't any reason why they couldn't but most people are arguing reasons why they wouldn't. The way they did it with Oblivion was having a countdown on their website, so it gave people a lot of time to spread the news (just look at how that Eurogamer article spread), but it still wasn't the official announcement, more like a announcement for an announcement lol. So it gave people the opportunity to speculate and spread the news to the non-hardcoe so everybody was watching and speculating before the announcement.

In any case they are still probably going to do all options, it's just the order that were trying to figure out. I don't think it's really all that important, if the non-hardcoe misses it on their website and blog they'll catch it during the convention, or the GI cover. Does the order really matter that much?

[Kelsey Anna Farley]

Well I'm not sure exactly why, but that's not the way they've been doing it which is why people assume they are going to continue their trend. In all honesty there isn't any reason why they couldn't but most people are arguing reasons why they wouldn't. The way they did it with Oblivion was having a countdown on their website, so it gave people a lot of time to spread the news (just look at how that Eurogamer article spread), but it still wasn't the official announcement, more like a announcement for an announcement lol. So it gave people the opportunity to speculate and spread the news to the non-hardcoe so everybody was watching and speculating before the announcement.

In any case they are still probably going to do all options, it's just the order that were trying to figure out. I don't think it's really all that important, if the non-hardcoe misses it on their website and blog they'll catch it during the convention, or the GI cover. Does the order really matter that much?

I understand the rationale behind it, I just don't personally agree with it. The gaming landscape - announcement plans, marketing, release schedules - has changed drastically since Oblivion. Oblivion was a (planned) launch title for an all-new generation of hardware, in a space where there was literally no real competition. Bethesda could afford to announce the game, wait a year, then show it off at E3 '05. Today, you've got a situation where, if you want to announce any game that isn't a sequel to last year's hit, you've got to hit the ground running or you'll lose the attention of anyone who didn't already care about it. Even an awesome series like The Elder Scrolls isn't impervious to this phenomenon, especially considering in the five years since the last game, a whole new group of gamers (read: potential customers) has now joined the gaming space. That means a whole new group of people that never played an Elder Scrolls game and don't know why they should care.

Like I said: there are other ways for Bethesda to hit big with an announcement. I just think, with the VGAs right around the corner, it's too likely a possibility to dismiss. If I were in their shoes, I'd have at least considered it. Especially since it's the last real publicized gaming event until PAX East and E3 - nobody announces at PAX because it's largely for marketing existing titles, and E3, well, we already know what Bethesda thinks about trying to compete at an event like that.

[Jerry Cox]

I understand the rationale behind it, I just don't personally agree with it. The gaming landscape - announcement plans, marketing, release schedules - has changed drastically since Oblivion. Oblivion was a (planned) launch title for an all-new generation of hardware, in a space where there was literally no real competition. Bethesda could afford to announce the game, wait a year, then show it off at E3 '05. Today, you've got a situation where, if you want to announce any game that isn't a sequel to last year's hit, you've got to hit the ground running or you'll lose the attention of anyone who didn't already care about it. Even an awesome series like The Elder Scrolls isn't impervious to this phenomenon, especially considering in the five years since the last game, a whole new group of gamers (read: potential customers) has now joined the gaming space. That means a whole new group of people that never played an Elder Scrolls game and don't know why they should care.

Like I said: there are other ways for Bethesda to hit big with an announcement. I just think, with the VGAs right around the corner, it's too likely a possibility to dismiss. If I were in their shoes, I'd have at least considered it. Especially since it's the last real publicized gaming event until PAX East and E3 - nobody announces at PAX because it's largely for marketing existing titles, and E3, well, we already know what Bethesda thinks about trying to compete at an event like that.

Yeah I see what you're saying. There are many new potential fans that they could grab up, but I just don't see that happening at the VGA's. It just doesn't seem right to me. I could see them showing a trailer or gameplay at something like E3, but I still really don't see an announcement happening at a convention. I just don't see the need to announce it at one to grab up fans when they're just going to show it off at one to do just the same.

[BlackaneseB]

There is a Dutch gamesite called GameKings that says there will be next week an announcement of an RPG game where alot of people are waiting for and that it will create a hype as big as GTA or Gran Turismo... They cant say more untill next week about it... It could also be that new game from Bioware but that must be Mass Effect 3 or else there couldnt be people waiting for it...

Sorry for this terrible english, :whistling:

[Tamara Primo]

There is a Dutch gamesite called GameKings that says there will be next week an announcement of an RPG game where alot of people are waiting for and that it will create a hype as big as GTA or Gran Turismo... They cant say more untill next week about it... It could also be that new game from Bioware but that must be Mass Effect 3 or else there couldnt be people waiting for it...

Sorry for this terrible english, :whistling:

Link please.

[Liii BLATES]

They tell it in a video, and I dont think any of you guys can understand Dutch. ^^ And they are not a stupid amaturistic GameSite, they go to alot of gameshows like Tokyo Game Show, E3 and stuff like that. Also they have a show on MTV so they cant just say anything stupid.
Here is the link to their site: http://www.gamekings.tv/ they tell it their latest item at 7.40 called ''Brievenmaandag'' or in english Letter Monday. ^^

[teeny]

New forum layout = ESV Announcement Imminent?!

[Craig Martin]

January GI = Lara Croft.

Link: http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2010/12/06/january-cover-revealed.aspx

And what's with the new forum layout... I like it... Maybe this change means others are on the way...

[benjamin corsini]

Some thought the same thing the last time. New update works better on my iphone now though

[Dona BlackHeart]

This new forums layout got some peoples hopes up, but there's nothing new on these forums. except the layout.

Edit: AND WHAT HAPPENED TO MAH AVATAR AAAAGH!!

[Harry Leon]

I'm trying to not get my hopes up for the February GI cover because Pete Hines said "People have been guessing us for the next GI cover for about a year now. I have a feeling it'll go on like that for quite some time" (paraphrased).

If it was gonna be revealed as the next cover next month, I don't think he would have added the "it'll go on for quite some time" part.

[Abi Emily]

Edit: AND WHAT HAPPENED TO MAH AVATAR AAAAGH!!

Metallica?

[Jennifer Munroe]

If it was gonna be revealed as the next cover next month, I don't think he would have added the "it'll go on for quite some time" part.

to some people another month is a long time,
quite frankly the statement could be interpreted a hundred ways - ie he's having a joke or he's said that on purpose to throw people off or someone had a knife to his threat at the time or even that he was overdosing on ketamine during the interview and meant to say "some years"

[Donald Richards]

New forum layout = ESV Announcement Imminent?!

This is why we can't have nice things.

[Breautiful]

Metallica?

yup. changed my avatar because i couldn't find mah awesome spy anymore

[Andy durkan]

yup. changed my avatar because i couldn't find mah awesome spy anymore

http://dog.fpsbanana.com/ico/sprays/awesome_spy.jpg

I'll admit the first thing I did when the forums came back was to check for a TES:V forum.

[Camden Unglesbee]

Ooh, shiny. I like the new layout.

we knew January wouldn't be it anyways. I still think it'll be february.