Official TES V Speculation Thread #88

Post » Sat Jul 31, 2010 6:28 pm

Okay, so I think we could all use a quick recap of some of the noteworthy tweets and other information we've encountered so far and any implications they may carry, so here's my attempt at reconciling all of them into one post. If I've missed something, don't be afraid to correct me. The hope is to come up with a quick-reference we can use so we're all on the same page, including any newcomers that are bound to jump aboard the speculation train over the next few days/weeks.

  • http://twitter.com/#!/GI_AndyMc/status/20397485690: And for the people that keep begging for the next Elder Scrolls....trust me, we want it too. Patience.
    - Implication: The people that had been begging for an Elder Scrolls announcement need only wait to have their wants met.
    - Conclusion: In August, Andy McNamara knew there was an Elder Scrolls related announcement somewhere in the future - a statement based on either raw journalistic instinct or, more likely, actual knowledge on the subject. Also, people had been begging him for it for a while at that point. Unlikely that there's a literal correlation between this tweet and the next due to the specific use of the word "begging", but it at least makes another Elder Scrolls a likely candidate.

  • http://twitter.com/#!/GI_AndyMc/status/2446334590189568: Got test samples for our Feb cover today & Jan is already in motion. Jan you won't see coming but you have been begging for Feb 4ever
    - Implication: The upcoming February cover is a game that fans have been specifically requesting for a long time and is one they could potentially see coming.
    - Conclusion: The game must not be an original IP (how can you ask for something you don't know exists?) and its predecessor must have released quite a while ago (longer than the standard release schedule for sequels, at least).

  • https://twitter.com/#!/michaelbuffaloe/status/12258446166462464: @GI_AndyMc Can you confirm the presence of a four-page spread on the history of the Elder Scrolls series in the latest GI? There are rumors.
    https://twitter.com/#!/gi_andymc/status/12259998386094080: @michaelbuffaloe it's true!
    - Implication: No implications - he's confirming a fact, so there's nothing to derive from what he said.
    - Conclusion: Well, that's obvious. There's a 4-page spread on the history of The Elder Scrolls - in the spot they usually reserve for next-issue previews, by the way - in the latest issue of Game Informer. Retrospective articles on an entire series are only done in a very few rare circumstances, one of which happens to be prepping an audience for an announcement related to said series. It's very likely the article was written with the express intent of preparing the Game Informer readers for an Elder Scrolls bombshell.

  • http://twitter.com/#!/MrTissueBox/status/12638964678664192: @Andrew_Reiner Is the next cover a game that was already revealed or not?
    http://twitter.com/#!/Andrew_Reiner/status/12710489284939776: @MrTissueBox Nope!
    - Implication: It's kind of murky, but it's very likely Andrew Reiner was responding to the first portion of MrTissueBox's question. We had a whole discussion about it back in Speculation Thread #87, but eventually we all agreed: people tend to address the primary portion of the question. If he was trying to respond to the latter portion, it wouldn't make much sense. Uncomfortable English would be unlikely from an editor.
    - Conclusion: The February cover depicts a game that is unannounced, at least as of December 8th. It's possible that the title could be announced between then and the cover reveal without falsifying his statement, so we can't rule out anything announced at the VGAs, but anything that was revealed before the 8th isn't in the running.

Summary!
Based on the information we have and conclusions that have been drawn, potentials for the February cover must meet these requirements:

  • It cannot be a new IP. (Meaning, it can't be a new world/idea/brand - it must be a sequel/addition/expansion to an existing world/idea/brand.)
  • Its "prequel" (the game in the series that came before it) must have released long enough ago to justify a long period of want for a sequel. At least two years since the last entry.
  • It cannot have been announced to the public as of December 8th. Any title announced after that date is fair game.

Don't forget the one thing the Elder Scrolls series has that other potentials don't: the 4-page spread on Elder Scrolls history in the latest Game Informer, positioned on the very last pages (that's a big spot) of the issue. No other series got that treatment. That's a likely sign that something is coming.

Your also missing out on the tweets were pete hines telling me that he has a set date.
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Post » Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:26 pm

Your also missing out on the tweets were pete hines telling me that he has a set date.

Thanks, adding those in immediately. :)
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Post » Sat Jul 31, 2010 2:54 pm

Personally the only game game that I can see being the next GI cover is TES V. The only games that I can think of that hasn't been unveiled that people have been begging for "4ever" are Psychonauts 2 and Half-Life 3 / Episode 3.

I'm almost positive that if Psychonauts 2 were in development, we would know about it by now. Double Fine isn't very secretive about what they're working on.

That leaves Half-Life 3, which, in my opinion, is less likely than TES V because of all the evidence we have supporting TES V and the complete lack of evidence supporting a new Half-Life game being the cover.
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Post » Sat Jul 31, 2010 7:01 pm

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Very nice summary! I haven't been on here in a while and now I'm all caught up. I hope it really is TESV.
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Post » Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:44 am

Though one thing to consider is that valve still has some surprises to announce this year and it could be one of them.
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Post » Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:25 pm

Though one thing to consider is that valve still has some surprises to announce this year and it could be one of them.


That is my main concern, Valve games. They are always so unpredictable.
Valve vs Bethesda. Hmmm... tough one.
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Post » Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:08 pm

SteveJ

I had to make that my signature.


Celestina

Yes.

NICE!
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Post » Sun Aug 01, 2010 12:45 am

Personally the only game game that I can see being the next GI cover is TES V. The only games that I can think of that hasn't been unveiled that people have been begging for "4ever" are Psychonauts 2 and Half-Life 3 / Episode 3.

I'm almost positive that if Psychonauts 2 were in development, we would know about it by now. Double Fine isn't very secretive about what they're working on.

That leaves Half-Life 3, which, in my opinion, is less likely than TES V because of all the evidence we have supporting TES V and the complete lack of evidence supporting a new Half-Life game being the cover.


We also got that massive DoTA article from Value last issue. I'd say another Valve game that soon is not likely.
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Post » Sat Jul 31, 2010 10:31 am

That is my main concern, Valve games. They are always so unpredictable.
Valve vs Bethesda. Hmmm... tough one.

I love most Valve games (with the exception of L4D2), but if I was given a choice, Bethesda would take it hands down for me.
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Post » Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:40 pm

Okay, so I think we could all use a quick recap of some of the noteworthy tweets and other information we've encountered so far and any implications they may carry, so here's my attempt at reconciling all of them into one post. If I've missed something, don't be afraid to correct me. The hope is to come up with a quick-reference we can use so we're all on the same page, including any newcomers that are bound to jump aboard the speculation train over the next few days/weeks.

  • http://twitter.com/#!/GI_AndyMc/status/20397485690: And for the people that keep begging for the next Elder Scrolls....trust me, we want it too. Patience.
    - Implication: The people that had been begging for an Elder Scrolls announcement need only wait to have their wants met.
    - Conclusion: In August, Andy McNamara knew there was an Elder Scrolls related announcement somewhere in the future - a statement based on either raw journalistic instinct or, more likely, actual knowledge on the subject. Also, people had been begging him for it for a while at that point. Unlikely that there's a literal correlation between this tweet and the next due to the specific use of the word "begging", but it at least makes another Elder Scrolls a likely candidate.

  • http://twitter.com/#!/GI_AndyMc/status/2446334590189568: Got test samples for our Feb cover today & Jan is already in motion. Jan you won't see coming but you have been begging for Feb 4ever
    - Implication: The upcoming February cover is a game that fans have been specifically requesting for a long time and is one they could potentially see coming.
    - Conclusion: The game must not be an original IP (how can you ask for something you don't know exists?) and its predecessor must have released quite a while ago (longer than the standard release schedule for sequels, at least).

  • https://twitter.com/#!/michaelbuffaloe/status/12258446166462464: @GI_AndyMc Can you confirm the presence of a four-page spread on the history of the Elder Scrolls series in the latest GI? There are rumors.
    https://twitter.com/#!/gi_andymc/status/12259998386094080: @michaelbuffaloe it's true!
    - Implication: No implications - he's confirming a fact, so there's nothing to derive from what he said.
    - Conclusion: Well, that's obvious. There's a 4-page spread on the history of The Elder Scrolls - in the spot they usually reserve for next-issue previews, by the way - in the latest issue of Game Informer. Retrospective articles on an entire series are only done in a very few rare circumstances, one of which happens to be prepping an audience for an announcement related to said series. It's very likely the article was written with the express intent of preparing the Game Informer readers for an Elder Scrolls bombshell.

  • http://twitter.com/#!/MrTissueBox/status/12638964678664192: @Andrew_Reiner Is the next cover a game that was already revealed or not?
    http://twitter.com/#!/Andrew_Reiner/status/12710489284939776: @MrTissueBox Nope!
    - Implication: It's kind of murky, but it's very likely Andrew Reiner was responding to the first portion of MrTissueBox's question. We had a whole discussion about it back in Speculation Thread #87, but eventually we all agreed: people tend to address the primary portion of the question. If he was trying to respond to the latter portion, it wouldn't make much sense. Uncomfortable English would be unlikely from an editor.
    - Conclusion: The February cover depicts a game that is unannounced, at least as of December 8th. It's possible that the title could be announced between then and the cover reveal without falsifying his statement, so we can't rule out anything announced at the VGAs, but anything that was revealed before the 8th isn't in the running.

Summary!
Based on the information we have and conclusions that have been drawn, potentials for the February cover must meet these requirements:

  • It cannot be a new IP. (Meaning, it can't be a new world/idea/brand - it must be a sequel/addition/expansion to an existing world/idea/brand.)
  • Its "prequel" (the game in the series that came before it) must have released long enough ago to justify a long period of want for a sequel. At least two years since the last entry.
  • It cannot have been announced to the public as of December 8th. Any title announced after that date is fair game.

Don't forget the one thing the Elder Scrolls series has that other potentials don't: the 4-page spread on Elder Scrolls history in the latest Game Informer, positioned on the very last pages (that's a big spot) of the issue. No other series got that treatment. That's a likely sign that something is coming.




also don't forget the news from IGN...http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/113/1136356p1.html

Maybe they are doing voice work for the trailer...
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Post » Sun Aug 01, 2010 1:05 am

Can someone Dutch ask GameKings if the RPG is Mass Effect 3?
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Post » Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:18 pm

also don't forget the news from IGN...http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/113/1136356p1.htmlMaybe they are doing voice work for the trailer...


That article is just a rumour. This wasn't confirmed and it's extremely unlikely to be true.


Can someone Dutch ask GameKings if the RPG is Mass Effect 3?


A better question would be if it's a Bioware game.
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Post » Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:16 pm

also don't forget the news from IGN...http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/113/1136356p1.html

Maybe they are doing voice work for the trailer...

I don't know if I trust that. It's all rumor. There's no way to know it's true. All the information we have now is straight from the horse's mouth, so to speak - unless they explicitly lied to us, we know our information is reliable.
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Post » Sat Jul 31, 2010 7:30 pm

I really hope he's not talking about Duke Nukem 4ever in his tweet. Although I still think he is. Prove me wrong please (directed at Beth, not at posters)
Is DN4ever the longest wait time between games in the history of video games?
Anyway, looking forward to ES5 even though I just started Nehrim (better dungeons than Oblivion if any of you haven't played it yet!)
Warning: pointless nod above!
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I really hope he's not talking about Duke Nukem 4ever in his tweet. Although I still think he is. Prove me wrong please (directed at Beth, not at posters)
Is DN4ever the longest wait time between games in the history of video games?
Anyway, looking forward to ES5 even though I just started Nehrim (better dungeons than Oblivion if any of you haven't played it yet!)
Warning: pointless nod above!


It isn't Duke Nukem forever 'cus the next cover is a game that is still not announced.
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I really hope he's not talking about Duke Nukem 4ever in his tweet. Although I still think he is. Prove me wrong please (directed at Beth, not at posters)
Is DN4ever the longest wait time between games in the history of video games?
Anyway, looking forward to ES5 even though I just started Nehrim (better dungeons than Oblivion if any of you haven't played it yet!)
Warning: pointless nod above!

Unless we misinterpreted "No", it can't be. Allow me to direct you to requirement number 3 (pulled from http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1147605-official-tes-v-speculation-thread-88/page__view__findpost__p__16774019):
  • It cannot have been announced to the public as of December 8th. Any title announced after that date is fair game.

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Post » Sun Aug 01, 2010 1:18 am

Ok, I'll admit that the four pages did raise my hopes of TES V as the next cover. Now is it set in stone? It will be for me when they post it only their site. Y'all should be F5 that site, and I'll just scroll, scroll, scroll, refresh.
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Ok, I'll admit that the four pages did raise my hopes of TES V as the next cover. Now is it set in stone? It will be for me when they post it only their site. Y'all should be F5 that site, and I'll just scroll, scroll, scroll, refresh.


FV ;)

And we can't say it's set in stone. It's all speculation.
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Ok, I'll admit that the four pages did raise my hopes of TES V as the next cover. Now is it set in stone? It will be for me when they post it only their site. Y'all should be F5 that site, and I'll just scroll, scroll, scroll, refresh.

wait, I'm getting something...

FV, scroll






We need to get an old person to do that now.

Spoiler
geddit, Elder Scrolls, fV

you all are welcome.
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Post » Sat Jul 31, 2010 6:01 pm

I love most Valve games (with the exception of L4D2), but if I was given a choice, Bethesda would take it hands down for me.


Left 4 Dead 2 is friggen awesome, with friends. I can imagine the pubs being awful :shakehead:
So Half Life 3 or TESV would be cool with me. If it's Mass Effect 3 I'm gonna puke, then laugh my ass off when it turns out to be awful and my rather oblivious friends and acquaintances are wondering why it's awful.
That being said, hey Bethesda dudes any hint here? Nudge nudge, wink wink, say no more say no more?
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Post » Sat Jul 31, 2010 10:46 pm

25 member reading this topic. And I keep FV'ing and no one posts a thing!
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I could pull out a few more puns?


but I think I should be going..
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Post » Sat Jul 31, 2010 2:43 pm

I almost forgot about the Gamekings thing... To be completely honest, i think a stall in motion (IE-no Offical/VGA/GI/Gameking announcement) like we had after the DA2 episode would be a much more cruel kick to the stones...

2 days for the VGA's and about a week for the Gamekings announcement (or announcement from an official source that they were talking about)!
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Can somebody refresh me on exactly what game kings said and in what context?
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right before #87 closed someone, i think centr1no, had a summary... Calling all dutch forum members to the matter!
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