[Britta Gronkowski]

There is NO OFFICIAL information about a new TES game release.

This thread is for member speculation of when and if TES V will be released. This is where you post any new information about when it might be released, tidbits from interviews which mention it and such.

It is also where you post your theories of when you think it might come out based on guesses, number crunching, rumors or such.

This is about speculating on the next TES game and when -- or if -- it is going to be released. It is not a place for discussion of what is going to be in it, what type of graphics there will be, or any other subject of that type; they belong in the http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1145436-tes-v-ideas-and-suggestions-187/. If those kind of posts get raised they will be deleted and the poster warned for going off topic.


Please note that this thread is not a personal chat box and that one liners and posts of little substance will be considered as spam and thus the poster will be subject to warnings and suspensions.

No scans of copy righted material are allowed in this thread. Any claims to having insider information will be removed. All other forum rules apply. You agreed to them, so please read them.

More recent interviews of note:
April 27th, 2009: http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/974/974529p1.html
June 25th, 2009: http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=24211 (particularly this quoted part)August 14th, 2009: http://news.bigdownload.com/2009/08/14/quakecon-2009-todd-howard-keynote-highlights/
August 17th, 2009: Pete clarify many things of what happen in QuakeCon in this blog: http://bethblog.com/index.php/2009/08/17/clarifying-about-next-elder-scrolls-game-mmo-etc/
January 6th, 2010: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/kotaku/2010/01/06/chatting-with-fallout-and-oblivions-todd-howard, at the 9:30-10:30 mark Todd Howard said: "[...] we spend a lot of time adding to the engine, [...] and we've sort of been doing that with the big new game [we've been] making since we finished Fallout 3. You know we finished Fallout 3 over a year ago so that whole time has been spent re-doing a large part of our basic technology[...]".
May 4th 2010: http://www.joystiq.com/2010/05/04/interview-bethesdas-pete-hines/ about future games
July 29th 2010: http://www.industrygamers.com/news/bethesdas-todd-howard-on-rpg-development-3d-not-supporting-nintendo-and-more/
August 2010: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-08-16-bethesdas-todd-howard-interview?page=1 and an http://pc.ign.com/articles/111/1112464p1.html

PLEASE NOTE: AS PER MODERATOR REQUESTS IN THE PREVIOUS THREAD, PLEASE CONFINE THIS DISCUSSION TO SPECULATION TO BETHESDA GAME STUDIOS / TES:V. DISCUSSION OF ZENIMAX ONLINE STUDIOS PROJECTS OR AN ES MMO SHOULD GO IN THE http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1119156-official-tes-multiplayer-thread/.

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http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1143919-official-tesv-speculation-thread-80/, http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1144203-official-tesv-speculation-thread-81/, http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1144640-official-tes-v-speculation-thread-82/ http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1145334-official-tes-v-speculation-thread-83/ http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1145334-official-tes-v-speculation-thread-84/
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[ILy- Forver]

Here's an excellent recap of important tweets. Copied to first page for priority. Thanks, ConfusedCartman!

Okay, so I think we could all use a quick recap of some of the noteworthy tweets and other information we've encountered so far and any implications they may carry, so here's my attempt at reconciling all of them into one post. If I've missed something, don't be afraid to correct me. The hope is to come up with a quick-reference we can use so we're all on the same page, including any newcomers that are bound to jump aboard the speculation train over the next few days/weeks.

• http://twitter.com/#!/GI_AndyMc/status/20397485690: And for the people that keep begging for the next Elder Scrolls....trust me, we want it too. Patience.
  - Implication: The people that had been begging for an Elder Scrolls announcement need only wait to have their wants met.
  - Conclusion: In August, Andy McNamara knew there was an Elder Scrolls related announcement somewhere in the future - a statement based on either raw journalistic instinct or, more likely, actual knowledge on the subject. Also, people had been begging him for it for a while at that point. Unlikely that there's a literal correlation between this tweet and the next due to the specific use of the word "begging", but it at least makes another Elder Scrolls a likely candidate.
  
  
• http://twitter.com/#!/GI_AndyMc/status/2446334590189568: Got test samples for our Feb cover today & Jan is already in motion. Jan you won't see coming but you have been begging for Feb 4ever
  - Implication: The upcoming February cover is a game that fans have been specifically requesting for a long time and is one they could potentially see coming.
  - Conclusion: The game must not be an original IP (how can you ask for something you don't know exists?) and its predecessor must have released quite a while ago (longer than the standard release schedule for sequels, at least).
  
  
• https://twitter.com/#!/michaelbuffaloe/status/12258446166462464: @GI_AndyMc Can you confirm the presence of a four-page spread on the history of the Elder Scrolls series in the latest GI? There are rumors.
  https://twitter.com/#!/gi_andymc/status/12259998386094080: @michaelbuffaloe it's true!
  - Implication: No implications - he's confirming a fact, so there's nothing to derive from what he said.
  - Conclusion: Well, that's obvious. There's a 4-page spread on the history of The Elder Scrolls - in the spot they usually reserve for next-issue previews, by the way - in the latest issue of Game Informer. Retrospective articles on an entire series are only done in a very few rare circumstances, one of which happens to be prepping an audience for an announcement related to said series. It's very likely the article was written with the express intent of preparing the Game Informer readers for an Elder Scrolls bombshell.
  
  
• http://twitter.com/#!/MrTissueBox/status/12638964678664192: @Andrew_Reiner Is the next cover a game that was already revealed or not?
  http://twitter.com/#!/Andrew_Reiner/status/12710489284939776: @MrTissueBox Nope!
  - Implication: It's kind of murky, but it's very likely Andrew Reiner was responding to the first portion of MrTissueBox's question. We had a whole discussion about it back in Speculation Thread #87, but eventually we all agreed: people tend to address the primary portion of the question. If he was trying to respond to the latter portion, it wouldn't make much sense. Uncomfortable English would be unlikely from an editor.
  - Conclusion: The February cover depicts a game that is unannounced, at least as of December 8th. It's possible that the title could be announced between then and the cover reveal without falsifying his statement, so we can't rule out anything announced at the VGAs, but anything that was revealed before the 8th isn't in the running.

Summary!
Based on the information we have and conclusions that have been drawn, potentials for the February cover must meet these requirements:

• It cannot be a new IP. (Meaning, it can't be a new world/idea/brand - it must be a sequel/addition/expansion to an existing world/idea/brand.)
  
• Its "prequel" (the game in the series that came before it) must have released long enough ago to justify a long period of want for a sequel. At least two years since the last entry.
  
• It cannot have been announced to the public as of December 8th. Any title announced after that date is fair game.

Don't forget the one thing the Elder Scrolls series has that other potentials don't: the 4-page spread on Elder Scrolls history in the latest Game Informer, positioned on the very last pages (that's a big spot) of the issue. No other series got that treatment. That's a likely sign that something is coming.

[Tamara Dost]

February GI Cover seems extremely likely based on everything I have been reading since the August GI DA2 reveal.

A. FONV has been launched
B. Fans have been begging for it http://twitter.com/GI_AndyMc/status/2446334590189568 tweeted by GI's staff.
C. GI executive editor Andrew R. said it is not a previous reveal to MrTissueBox in another http://twitter.com/Andrew_Reiner
D. Todd Howards http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-08-16-bethesdas-todd-howard-interview?page=1 about there being alot of
game to play right now. They are definitely ready to show something and have been since August for sure.
To quote: "You know, if Pete Hines came in and said, "I want you to show it," I'd be like, "Okay, I'm ready to show it." But we've just decided for now not to yet."
E. The recent Eurogamer Denmark leak that spread like wildfire all over the net within a 24 hour window. (That has not happened since this thread was created).
F. The recent Game Informer spread at the end of the January magazine that has been confirmed by many on this board as a 2- 4 page RECAP of the History of ES.
G. The fact that it has been 5 year seems logical and BGS have not released anything since FO3 at the end of Oct 2008, aside from DLC the following year.
H. There are tooooo many things leaning towards a reveal very soon.

I don't hinge too much on these tweets either. But I do think that the BIGGEST piece of evidence is the most recent Elder Scrolls stuff in GI coupled with the fact that Pete Hines has said in a recent tweet that he has a date set.Someone post the link, I can't find it. The speculation is nearing its end. I feel a lot more will be clear within the next 30 days.

-rockstar626

[Dagan Wilkin]

Wait, Gabbo what did you ask him? Though your right he has tweeted that but I think it's referring to uncharted unless somebody asked him.

[clelia vega]

If Bethesda's waiting for us to reach thread no. 100 before they announce and we keep on filling one thread per day, we're only 12 days away from an announcement!

[Stu Clarke]

Battle field 3 ? we have been waiting for that game forever...... but TeS is way more anticipated imo so hopefully its TeS V
by the way does anyone know exactly when they will show a preview of the cover or something?

[Quick draw II]

Nobody has been waiting for BF3 forever....they already have it announced as well.

[Rachael]

If Bethesda's waiting for us to reach thread no. 100 before they announce and we keep on filling one thread per day, we're only 12 days away from an announcement!

Well let me help then.

This is getting ridiculous though. Bethesda is now my "home page". I dreamed about playing ESV last night. I'm checking twitter on my phone. And I'm hitting F5 constantly.

I have no life. But I love you guys, your posts are so awesome

[Baby K(:]

Well let me help then.

This is getting ridiculous though. Bethesda is now my "home page". I dreamed about playing ESV last night. I'm checking twitter on my phone. And I'm hitting F5 constantly.

I have no life. But I love you guys, your posts are so awesome

.............get a life? :biggrin:


................................................ :snoring:



.......................................................................I think ES V will be announced soon.

[Dean]

Wait, Gabbo what did you ask him? Though your right he has tweeted that but I think it's referring to uncharted unless somebody asked him.

No I realized he was referring to Uncharted 3 the second after I posted, but by then the forum was locked. I will return to sitting in my closet in fetal position, rocking back and forth.

:banghead:

[Mylizards Dot com]

...
I have no life. But I love you guys, your posts are so awesome

Well, Bethesda had better include a brand new F5 key for everyone in the game box when it's released


edit: Make that an FV key

[XPidgex Jefferson]

Well, Bethesda had better include a brand new F5 key for everyone in the game box when it's released


edit: Make that an FV key

It makes me happy that I'm not the only one hitting that F5:P

[Bryanna Vacchiano]

Well, Bethesda had better include a brand new F5 key for everyone in the game box when it's released


edit: Make that an FV key

So F5 shall now be known as FV

[Jack Walker]

I just realized what someone pointed out in the last thread. When Reiner responded to the tweet that "the next cover has not been announced yet" (paraphrased, all he said was No), that was BEFORE Uncharted 3 was announced. So the next cover could very likely be Uncharted 3.

As for the "4ever" thing, I don't think he put much thought into that. I'm sure people have been begging him for UC3, not nearly as much as ESV but still. All this points to the Feb cover being Uncharted 3, but the one thing that keeps the fire alive for me is that fact that the current issue has a random 4 page spread for ES at the end.

So yeah, I'd say there's a 80% chance it'll be UC3, and a 20% chance it'll be ESV. But it'll definitely be one of those.

[Craig Martin]

Well let me help then.

This is getting ridiculous though. Bethesda is now my "home page". I dreamed about playing ESV last night. I'm checking twitter on my phone. And I'm hitting F5 constantly.

I have no life. But I love you guys, your posts are so awesome

Lives are over-rated! :tops:

[adame]

snip

Thanks for making this wonderful summary of the facts that support this speculation, this is very helpful to newcomers in our speculation. And damn, there really is a lot of things, I hope we are right D:

Well, Bethesda had better include a brand new F5 key for everyone in the game box when it's released edit: Make that an FV key

*dah bum* *tssssssss*

Hah, awesome. I would love to replace my F5 with an FV

[Tiffany Castillo]

Is anybody aware that Bethesda recently dropped the trademark for DeathMark?

[Annick Charron]

I could not help watching that video from Gamekings again and they clearly mention that this secret RPG that will be coming in 2011 will be announced this coming week.
They also mention that they are not talking about Diablo3 or DA2.

[Stephanie Kemp]

I just realized what someone pointed out in the last thread. When Reiner responded to the tweet that "the next cover has not been announced yet" (paraphrased, all he said was No), that was BEFORE Uncharted 3 was announced. So the next cover could very likely be Uncharted 3.

As for the "4ever" thing, I don't think he put much thought into that. I'm sure people have been begging him for UC3, not nearly as much as ESV but still. All this points to the Feb cover being Uncharted 3, but the one thing that keeps the fire alive for me is that fact that the current issue has a random 4 page spread for ES at the end.

So yeah, I'd say there's a 80% chance it'll be UC3, and a 20% chance it'll be ESV. But it'll definitely be one of those.

Not really man. I have a lot of friends that love UC2, and they never stopped to think of a sequel. And the multiplayer is keeping people busy.I don't think gamers have been begging for it, come on, the last game was last year.

I think that if Uncharted 3 and TESV were the only possibilites the chances of Uncharted 3 being the cover would be 1%, while TESV, 99%.

[Laura]

And so the hype build again. If it doesn't get announced as the February GI cover, I may have to ditch the forums for a few weeks to avoid the fallout (no joke intended). :whistling:

So yeah, I'd say there's a 80% chance it'll be UC3, and a 20% chance it'll be ESV. But it'll definitely be one of those.

That's a very lopsided prediction. For one, UC3 came out a year ago. If it is UC3, then McNamara's definition of "forever" needs to be looked over.

Also, Geoff Keighley is not affiliated with Game Informer. He's part of Game Trailers, so the difference in time between the two tweets is only coincidental, in my opinion.

Plus, do not forget that UC3 is only the first in a long list of game announcements. We're going to hear about more next week.

[Cesar Gomez]

edit: Make that an FV key

So F5 shall now be known as FV

2nd best thing to come from this thread, first being an official announcement reported.

The latter needs to get on with it already, but it sounds like that won't be much of a wait. :foodndrink:

[Karen anwyn Green]

I am so changing my key to an FV. Now that is awesome.

[John N]

I had to make that my signature.

[X(S.a.R.a.H)X]

Okay, so I think we could all use a quick recap of some of the noteworthy tweets and other information we've encountered so far and any implications they may carry, so here's my attempt at reconciling all of them into one post. If I've missed something, don't be afraid to correct me. The hope is to come up with a quick-reference we can use so we're all on the same page, including any newcomers that are bound to jump aboard the speculation train over the next few days/weeks. Don't want to read all this? Scroll down to the bottom of the post for a summary of the conclusions this information has lead us to make.

• http://twitter.com/#!/GI_AndyMc/status/20397485690: And for the people that keep begging for the next Elder Scrolls....trust me, we want it too. Patience.
  - Implication: The people that had been begging for an Elder Scrolls announcement need only wait to have their wants met.
  - Conclusion: In August, Andy McNamara knew there was an Elder Scrolls related announcement somewhere in the future - a statement based on either raw journalistic instinct or, more likely, actual knowledge on the subject. Also, people had been begging him for it for a while at that point. Unlikely that there's a literal correlation between this tweet and the next due to the specific use of the word "begging", but it at least makes another Elder Scrolls a likely candidate.
  
  
• http://twitter.com/#!/GI_AndyMc/status/2446334590189568: Got test samples for our Feb cover today & Jan is already in motion. Jan you won't see coming but you have been begging for Feb 4ever
  - Implication: The upcoming February cover is a game that fans have been specifically requesting for a long time and is one they could potentially see coming.
  - Conclusion: The game must not be an original IP (how can you ask for something you don't know exists?) and its predecessor must have released quite a while ago (longer than the standard release schedule for sequels, at least).
  
  
• http://twitter.com/#!/ChiliManiac/status/9846999587233792: @DCDeacon So, any clue as if will hear about an ES game before or after you announce the MMO? an article in 08 said you wanted a title in 10
  http://twitter.com/#!/DCDeacon/status/10011902629388288: @ChiliManiac I could tell you exactly what we're gonna announce, and when. I'm just not able to. Things will become clearer before too long.
  - Implication: An announcement date is set in stone, and it's fairly soon. Not easy to gauge exactly how long he's implying. He also doesn't confirm or deny if it's an Elder Scrolls game - a good sign.
  - Conclusion: If Bethesda knows what they're going to show and when they're going to show it, it must be happening soon. It's also most likely an actual Elder Scrolls game they're working on, because they're not actively reminding anyone that it could be anything else. They don't say what it is themselves, but everyone around them refers to what they're working on as an Elder Scrolls title and they go with it. If it were any different, they'd be doing some light damage control to prepare for the angry fans.
  
  
• http://twitter.com/#!/ChiliManiac/status/11958609718022144: @DCDeacon Hey, what can you say about this...or should we be paying no attention to it? http://twitter.com/#!/elderscrolls5/
  http://twitter.com/#!/DCDeacon/status/11960832510398464: @ChiliManiac I've lost track of the number of TES rumors I've been asked to comment on the last few years. Until you hear it from me....
  - Implication: An announcement related to TES is coming - eventually.
  - Conclusion: Again, an announcement is incoming at some point, but this time he confirms (without explicitly stating it) that it will be TES-related.
  
  
• https://twitter.com/#!/michaelbuffaloe/status/12258446166462464: @GI_AndyMc Can you confirm the presence of a four-page spread on the history of the Elder Scrolls series in the latest GI? There are rumors.
  https://twitter.com/#!/gi_andymc/status/12259998386094080: @michaelbuffaloe it's true!
  - Implication: No implications - he's confirming a fact, so there's nothing to derive from what he said.
  - Conclusion: Well, that's obvious. There's a 4-page spread on the history of The Elder Scrolls - in the spot they usually reserve for next-issue previews, by the way - in the latest issue of Game Informer. Retrospective articles on an entire series are only done in a very few rare circumstances, one of which happens to be prepping an audience for an announcement related to said series. It's very likely the article was written with the express intent of preparing the Game Informer readers for an Elder Scrolls bombshell.
  
  
• http://twitter.com/#!/MrTissueBox/status/12638964678664192: @Andrew_Reiner Is the next cover a game that was already revealed or not?
  http://twitter.com/#!/Andrew_Reiner/status/12710489284939776: @MrTissueBox Nope!
  - Implication: It's kind of murky, but it's very likely Andrew Reiner was responding to the first portion of MrTissueBox's question. We had a whole discussion about it back in Speculation Thread #87, but eventually we all agreed: people tend to address the primary portion of the question. If he was trying to respond to the latter portion, it wouldn't make much sense. Uncomfortable English would be unlikely from an editor.
  - Conclusion: The February cover depicts a game that is unannounced, at least as of December 8th. It's possible that the title could be announced between then and the cover reveal without falsifying his statement, so we can't rule out anything announced at the VGAs, but anything that was revealed before the 8th isn't in the running.

Summary!
Based on the information we have and conclusions that have been drawn, potentials for the February cover must meet these requirements:

• It cannot be a new IP. (Meaning, it can't be a new world/idea/brand - it must be a sequel/addition/expansion to an existing world/idea/brand.)
  
• Its "prequel" (the game in the series that came before it) must have released long enough ago to justify a long period of want for a sequel. At least two years since the last entry, I'd wager. No way to put a specific time frame on it, though - not if all you want is reliable information.
  
• It cannot have been announced to the public as of December 8th. Any title announced after that date is fair game.

Don't forget the one thing the Elder Scrolls series has that other potentials don't: the 4-page spread on Elder Scrolls history in the latest Game Informer, positioned on the very last pages (that's a big spot) of the issue. No other series got that treatment. That's a likely sign that something is coming.

[Brandon Wilson]

I am so changing my key to an FV. Now that is awesome.

http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/851/tesvplease.jpg