[rae.x]

Thinking about it, I'm glad we don't see Elder Scrolls games every year and a half like we do with AC, (don't get me started on CoD)... Tying it into this topic, I think almost 5 years is long enough, and as far as official games go, BGS has been working on this unannounced project with nothing else on their slate(outside of the recently known early-stages game)... I think all of the clues are rightfully pointing to February GI cover...

BGS's last known work was Mothership Zeta, correct?

According to various sources in BGS, the majority of the studio has only been working on their latest (unannounced) title since mid-2008. I'm sure pre-production happened much earlier than that - probably mid-way or late into Fallout 3's development schedule, if I were to hazard a guess - so officially, their "last known work" is the unannounced title they're working on right now.

[StunnaLiike FiiFii]

According to various sources in BGS, the majority of the studio has only been working on their latest (unannounced) title since mid-2008. I'm sure pre-production happened much earlier than that - probably mid-way or late into Fallout 3's development schedule, if I were to hazard a guess - so officially, their "last known work" is the unannounced title they're working on right now.

But their last released content was Mothership Zeta- unless you want to count the Fallout 3 GOTY Edition.

[Felix Walde]

I think that the people who were hyped up and really belived TES5 would happen to the August issue earlier this year and now hyped about the february issue should really take a step back and reflect upon that, how right they were the last time

[katsomaya Sanchez]

But their last released content was Mothership Zeta- unless you want to count the Fallout 3 GOTY Edition.

They would technically have a smaller team working on that while the much larger team would be working on the larger project. A workforce of 90 people could easily accommodate.

[Carlos Vazquez]

Just hurry up and make some kind of announcement. I have serious TES withdrawals

[Rachel Cafferty]

Just hurry up and make some kind of announcement. I have serious TES withdrawals

Those are very easy to fix...download mods and play them, that's what I do and some of the mods are amazing.


Honestly It's looking less and less despite more and more that will see anything at the video game awards. I think Bethesda would much rather have a press conference them selves and unveil it next year with the rumors of them picking up obsidian as well it would even be a bigger shocker. Game companies probably look at the numbers more than anything else and ratings of 8.5 across the board 9.0 on sometimes +3,000,000 in sales are huge numbers.

[Lady Shocka]

I very much doubt that Beth will announce at VGA. If TES is on the feb GI cover then it wouldn't be a unique magazine cover/article because OXM and Games master will almost likely milk it out and everyone will know everything already. Just my opinion. It also seems to me that Beth may have done a deal with GI so only GI can print TESV first. It seems likely because they have recently interviewed them, far along in the development of some mystery game. Then they release the Elder Scrolls history. They either got bored or their revving us all up for a new years bombshell :banghead: :flame: :swear: But i want a [censored] announcement NOW. Stupid game developers with there stupid dates...

[Marta Wolko]

Actaully, I predict we won't here about it till after the holidays...the Holiday's being the largest shopping spree of they year they will probably want to push more units of it out door to increase sales, and with a patch dropping very soon they won't have to worry about the crippling issues with it anymore. I suspect a new years announcement might be a possibility.

[Chloé]

IMO if its not the Feb cover we won't see any ESV for another 6 months. Losing hope as far as a VGA announcement goes.


Also IMO locking threads at 11 pages and what not isn't doing any favors as far as getting a nice community going here. As for as forums go the community here struggles quite a bit IMO. Maybe you guys should make a "Everything Elder scrolls related" sticky at the top of the page that doesn't lock every 6 hours.

EDIT: I also had an idea how the Eurogamer rumour. What if Bethesda has done a deal with GI so that they get to write about TESV before everyone else. Maybe, just maybe somebody who works at GI leaked the information to the person at Eurogamer?

[Nina Mccormick]

IMO if its not the Feb cover we won't see any ESV for another 6 months. Losing hope as far as a VGA announcement goes.


Also IMO locking threads at 11 pages and what not isn't doing any favors as far as getting a nice community going here. As for as forums go the community here struggles quite a bit IMO. Maybe you guys should make a "Everything Elder scrolls related" sticky at the top of the page that doesn't lock every 6 hours.

The Mods here are very strict, yes. Though I don't think that is a bad thing nor do I think it needs to be addressed. The thing with Bethesda is that they have private investors looking at these boards as a way to judge the type of people they cater to. Also the lock at 11 pages is to prevent server over load, you have 400 or so active people on this site at all times and locking the threads keeps things short and easy to moderate. Trust me, I'm a mod my self on another forum and I'm just as stritct if not more so. I know were the mods are coming from, so please. Don't attack the mods, they are just doing their job.

As for speculation I don't agree, if we don't here it at the VGA's I think we will at least hear about it before E3 2011, possibly even PAX East as we know Bethesda is going to be there.
If we don't here about it before E3 2011 we probably won't have any game come out till 2013 since they will have to announce it arround E3 2012. This does not fit within the soon that Pete Hines told me through his twitter.

[Chris Duncan]

The Mods here are very strict, yes. Though I don't think that is a bad thing nor do I think it needs to be addressed. The thing with Bethesda is that they have private investors looking at these boards as a way to judge the type of people they cater to. Also the lock at 11 pages is to prevent server over load, you have 400 or so active people on this site at all times and locking the threads keeps things short and easy to moderate. Trust me, I'm a mod my self on another forum and I'm just as stritct if not more so. I know were the mods are coming from, so please. Don't attack the mods, they are just doing their job.

As for speculation I don't agree, if we don't here it at the VGA's I think we will at least hear about it before E3 2011, possibly even PAX East as we know Bethesda is going to be there.

Wasn't attacking the mods in the slightest. They don't make the rules they just enforce them. Was merely making a suggestion. I just thought it would be nice to have a community going here as I never stay for more then a few minutes at a time since theres nowhere you can really talk but hey I guess thats what real life is for ay . Anyway probably best to not get too off topic.


As for E3 I hope you're right. I really need to see some ESV information soon.

[Latino HeaT]

Err.. I don't wanna be the bird of bad omen in any way but, I have the strange feeling that a TES V announcement will come out only after the second Keyes' book will be announced/published.

[stevie critchley]

Will there be a Livestream for the VGA?

[Jerry Jr. Ortiz]

I strongly disagree. Like the other kid said, Pete said soon, I think people are so used to being let down they are getting a little...erm......stupid.
When a Human being says soon they normally mean within a couple of weeks/months. Not almost a full year :flamethrower: :cryvaultboy:

Fallout can shove itself up it's own [censored], great game but us addicts want TES5, I'm starting to lose all respect for Bethesda. If the game is bad then i will repeatedly headband a wall. :banghead:

[Crystal Clear]

Err.. I don't wanna be the bird of bad omen in any way but, I have the strange feeling that a TES V announcement will come out only after the second Keyes' book will be announced/published.

That may be true, but the books are supporting material for the games, not the other way around. There's absolutely no way Bethesda will delay the announcement, marketing, or release of their game to aid a book/series that doesn't even manage to come close to earning the amount the games themselves make. No, the books' release structure is designed around the games' release structure - that's the only way anyone's ever done it, and it's the only way that makes sense with supporting material like books, comics, and the like.

[Neko Jenny]

Also IMO locking threads at 11 pages and what not isn't doing any favors as far as getting a nice community going here. As for as forums go the community here struggles quite a bit IMO. Maybe you guys should make a "Everything Elder scrolls related" sticky at the top of the page that doesn't lock every 6 hours.

The community in TES General, or any of our other forums certainly does not struggle, in general it a well behaved and enjoyable place to post, discuss and it is always active. It certainly will not be stickied as there is nothing official about the existence or release of the game. If and when there is an official announcement about our long awaited game there will no doubt be a forum dedicated to it, until then the only ones here with "proof" of the game are you guys.

Wasn't attacking the mods in the slightest. They don't make the rules they just enforce them. Was merely making a suggestion. I just thought it would be nice to have a community going here as I never stay for more then a few minutes at a time since theres nowhere you can really talk but hey I guess thats what real life is for ay . Anyway probably best to not get too off topic.

OK guys, this kind of post is exactly the type of pointless chat and off topic that is going to get this topic in trouble - again. The moderators are the ones who suggest the majority rules, and apply them, as we are the team who spends most time on the forums and keep the place tidy. It also shows that stickied topics are invisible to most people otherwise the poster would know that he should have used a PM to discuss moderator actions and not posted on the open forum.

Yes, I am going on a bit, the moderators really do want to allow you this topic to discuss and speculate about when the next TES game is going to see the light of day (and I look forward to that time as much as anyone else) but you all need to take a sensible approach to the topic - many of you already do - keep your posts within the bounds of possibility and stop constantly repeating yourselves. Drives me mad. : :ahhh:
You will also see that a lot of TES V topics were locked recently. This was done after discussion and agreement and until we have definite official news of TES V the number of topics on it are going to be strictly limited - perhaps that should tell you something and give you something to speculate about.

OK, I have said my bit, back to TES V now. :tongue:

[Sammygirl]

Thanks Rohugh. Appreciate the fair warning and clarification.

Will there be a Livestream for the VGA?

I did a bit of searching for you and, sadly, there does not appear to be any sort of officially supported stream of the VGAs as of now. Good news is, there will almost certainly be a million different sources offering recaps of the night's announcements, including any trailers/gameplay that were shown.

If all you're looking for is a TES:V announcement, then watch this forum - I am sure a thread (or possibly an entire new forum) will be created for the purpose of discussing it the instant it happens. It may be unofficial or get locked or what have you, but if all you want is confirmation, this forum is the perfect place to look.

[Amy Masters]

That may be true, but the books are supporting material for the games, not the other way around. There's absolutely no way Bethesda will delay the announcement, marketing, or release of their game to aid a book/series that doesn't even manage to come close to earning the amount the games themselves make. No, the books' release structure is designed around the games' release structure - that's the only way anyone's ever done it, and it's the only way that makes sense with supporting material like books, comics, and the like.

You're right, man. GENERALLY, books, graphic novels, etc are supporting material to promote even more a brand, and this kind of merchandising never has direct influences on the main product. My thought has grown when i thought that The Infernal City isn't a spin-off like it could be any of DA:O's books; it is the sequel of Oblivion, the next Elder scroll and the direct connection to the next TES game, which IMHO should fit with the event happening in The Infernal City. So maybe, their intention is to announce the game soon after the novel or both together, who really knows. by the way, it should not last long till the second novel will be published, i say during 2011...

[Alan Whiston]

When I happened across the TES article while perusing the latest Game Informer, a few '!'s popped up in my head. Like: "!!!" I def feel something coming! I can feel it in the earth.

[kevin ball]

You're right, man. GENERALLY, books, graphic novels, etc are supporting material to promote even more a brand, and this kind of merchandising never has direct influences on the main product. My thought has grown when i thought that The Infernal City isn't a spin-off like it could be any of DA:O's books; it is the sequel of Oblivion, the next Elder scroll and the direct connection to the next TES game, which IMHO should fit with the event happening in The Infernal City. So maybe, their intention is to announce the game soon after the novel or both together, who really knows. by the way, it should not last long till the second novel will be published, i say during 2011...

Oh, don't get me wrong, I am in no way saying they will not treat the books with respect. I'm just saying, there's no situation I can see in which they would delay announcing an Elder Scrolls game to make room for a book that sits on the same storyline.

If it were me, I'd use the hype created by the announced-but-unreleased TES title to drive sales of the next book. It'd work wonders, and they could save quite a bit of money on marketing.

Anyway, lets try to avoid discussing the book too heavily. Too much and we'll be straying off topic, which is the last thing we want.

[Jonathan Egan]

When a Human being says soon they normally mean within a couple of weeks/months. Not almost a full year

Clearly you are not a close follower of Valve or Blizzard, who both have http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valve_Corporation#.22Valve_Time.22 of the http://www.wowwiki.com/Soon "http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Valve_Time".

To quote one of those links:

Now<--------------Very Soon--------Soon--------------->End of Time 

I strongly doubt anything will come from tonight's VGA show, and think that January represents the next most likely (in the vaguest sense) window for TESV news.

I would love to eat those words, but I would not take a wager in favour of any developments tonight.

[john page]

Alright, the game can be announced before the second book. Did they say that the book would immediately follow the book? I do not remember, but If they didn't the second book could be of anything they wanted.

[Melis Hristina]

Alright, the game can be announced before the second book. Did they say that the book would immediately follow the book? I do not remember, but If they didn't the second book could be of anything they wanted.

Plus, the second book could still be positioned between the first and TES:V on the overall storyline (isn't that where the first is narratively? correct me if I'm wrong). Usually, very little of the details of a game's story are announced right away, leaving plenty of room for a book to fill that narrative gap and get hardcoe fans even more excited at the prospect of a new entry into the lore (e.g. TES:V).

As to the timescale of the announcement of BGS's next project - you're right, they haven't been specific, so it's hard to know for sure based on their words alone. However, if you look at all the other evidence, it makes an impending announcement appear very likely. I for one am still highly optimistic that we will see their next project on Feb's GI. In the unlikely (but possible) event that doesn't occur, I still expect an announcement within the first four months of 2011.

[Gavin boyce]

I agree with you Cartman, if the timeline is really 200 years after Oblivion they can release that book whenever they want.

[Shannon Marie Jones]

What time do the VGA's start?