[lillian luna]

2011 - finish up adding in game content and sort bugs

Let's put in an emoticon of me laughing at this comment. :laugh: I'm pretty sure that they will finish adding ingame content and sorting bugs long after the game is released. Advanced buyers and preorder people are the 21st century's beta testers.

[Queen]

Not to be harsh, considering your new, but this is the speculation thread. We've know he said that since way back in August. In fact everything you just said is linked to in the first post of each of these topics. :shrug:

Oops, sorry my bad. Let me try again, (i hope this hasn't already been mentioned) Anyway the Elder Scrolls 3 and 4 had 1 game per gen to show off the console hardware. But since this gen is meant to last a long time (i don't know exactly how long), i don't think we would be seeing TES V on the next gen but this gen. And hearing Todd Howard saying they made a "big leap" in their engine, i think its highly likely they would want TES V on that engine. Rumors like this
(http://systemlink.gamersguidetolife.com/2010/09/rumour-elder-scrolls-v-definitely-in.html) also convince me. Seeing that TES V may be in Skyrim because of the filings of the trademarks, It would make sense that they would announce it November, December or January time because the actual environment of Skyrim (snowy and cold) coincide with the weather in those 3 months.

[Jynx Anthropic]

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Firstly welcome to the forums, you're never getting out bliviongate:

Now to business, I don't know how long you've been following this thread, whether you've been stalking it for a while or just jumped in, but there is plenty of evidence out there, granted not hard-official-evidence, but we do have our theoretical and our circumstantial evidence which together gives us an idea about what we should expect.

Take for instance your remark that the game would more likely be set in Summerset Isles rather than Skyrim, while I accept the theory that hints towards the next game may have been hidden in the game such as the 'daedra in Summerset Isle popularity' rumor, two critical pieces of circumstantial evidence point otherwise: the first is the claiming of a legal trademark by the name of Skyrim which has been kept alive for more than 3 years (need confirmation, I forgot how long exactly), now if you've been following the thread then you'd be aware of the massive amounts of money and legal issues that Beth would have gone through to maintain these Skyrim trademarks, and considering that something which Beth has spent years of lawyers and cash on holds a bit more weight than a game rumor, we can accept that Skyrim is a much more likely candidate for the game's location, there is no concrete evidence that says this, but the circumstantial evidence points towards this.

Secondly, there is one key thing which has happened that has possibly demolishing most relevance from the game rumors' suggestions for the next game's location, the TES novels. You may be aware that there was an early synopsis on the Waterstones (book publisher) website, claiming that the book would be the first in a two-part story, bridging the 200 year gap between TES 4 and the next game in the series. This is a quote which has caused considerable controversy because how would Waterstones know that, and if they were making it up, why? The synopsis was shortly replaced (no doubt the work of the Beth ninjas :ninja:) with a slightly less controversial one. Many avid TES fans rushed to screenshot a Google cached copy of the website before it was lost to existence (including myself) so we know that there was something different there. After a heated debated at the time I was personally swayed to the more conspiracy theorist side, that they wouldn't have done that for no reason and someone must have slipped some information, the "200 year gap" suggests that rather than continuing on directly from the story of TES: 4, the devs decided to give a large time-span to re-vamp or give leverage for some lore changes e.g. land-shifts and stuff like that. That is why I have lost any and all faith in possible hints included in TES: 4

TL;DR

Chance of game being in Skrim>Chance of game being in Summerset Isles


EDIT: My oh my, I got so caught up in my little war against 'Summerset Isles' I had forgotten the purpose of this whole post... :facepalm:

REAL TL;DR


There is no evidence whatsoever = false

There is circumstantial evidence that helps speculators reach conclusions on what to expect for TES in the future and what is happening now behind the 10 ft thick vaults of Beth HQ = true (except possibly the 10ft thick vaults comment, this may be a slight over or under-exaggeration on my part)

EDIT numero two:

At 18:38 GMT a user in blue text called 'Dan Ross' is seen reading the forum, not a dev, but interesting to note.

"HI DAN ROSS!!!!!"

......I also greeted said user. End log.

[sally coker]

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Good recap here. There's an ancient post of mine that summarizes much of what we know. It's a bit outdated and some of the points are irrelevant (e.g. trademarks), but someone may dig it up if they'd like (I don't have time to hunt for it). Another piece of information related to the books is the reviewers version of the book (from which Waterstones likely got their information) that speaks so specifically of TES:V.

[Olga Xx]

::SNIP::

Secondly, there is one key thing which has happened that has possibly demolishing most relevance from the game rumors' suggestions for the next game's location, the TES novels. You may be aware that there was an early synopsis on the Waterstones (book publisher) website, claiming that the book would be the first in a two-part story, bridging the 200 year gap between TES 4 and the next game in the series. This is a quote which has caused considerable controversy because how would Waterstones know that, and if they were making it up, why? The synopsis was shortly replaced (no doubt the work of the Beth ninjas :ninja:) with a slightly less controversial one. Many avid TES fans rushed to screenshot a Google cached copy of the website before it was lost to existence (including myself) so we know that there was something different there. After a heated debated at the time I was personally swayed to the more conspiracy theorist side, that they wouldn't have done that for no reason and someone must have slipped some information, the "200 year gap" suggests that rather than continuing on directly from the story of TES: 4, the devs decided to give a large time-span to re-vamp or give leverage for some lore changes e.g. land-shifts and stuff like that. That I was I have lost any and all faith in possible hints included in TES: 4

::SNIP::

With this information, I am now actually more interested in reading The Infernal City. Is it worth it?

[Oceavision]

With this information, I am now actually more interested in reading The Infernal City. Is it worth it?

If you are a fan of TES, why of course! Although the book will never be a classic, it was a fun (albeit short) book that was a worthwhile experience.

Oh crap, now I need to speculate on the game... ummm... it will be announced soon!

[Dagan Wilkin]

With this information, I am now actually more interested in reading The Infernal City. Is it worth it?

That question will probably be best answered after playing TES:V. For literary value, I'd say it's not worth it. For entertainment purposes, it's not too bad. If it establishes the background for TES:V then I'd say it's indispensable, but we won't know that for a little while yet.

[Stephanie Nieves]

The Infernal City shouldn't be much help in terms of TES V. I read about half of it, and was too bored to continue.

[Nancy RIP]

Chill guy's, this isn't a vent your anger thread, it's an enlightened thread of truth seekers. :celebration:

Truth-seekers? This is a thread for people who use interpretation from texts from the creators so they can know what the creators are going to do and when they are set to return in a grand display so that every eye will see them.
Sounds to me like a certain religion popularized by the Romans that's currently stifling the real truth-seekers. :V

[benjamin corsini]

I like Infernal City simply because it's advancing the plot of Elder Scrolls and not afraid to shake things up.

Anyway, so I love how it's in bold that Todd is not working on a collaborative project with Zenimax's newest buddies. They know us so well. Although I'm amazed that they teamed up. Amazed and somewhat excited, honestly.

[Rebecca Dosch]

Truth-seekers? This is a thread for people who use interpretation from texts from the creators so they can know what the creators are going to do and when they are set to return in a grand display so that every eye will see them.
Sounds to me like a certain religion popularized by the Romans that's currently stifling the real truth-seekers. :V

Oh come on dude, you know I'm not being serious bwahahahaha.

[Cheryl Rice]

Oh come on dude, you know I'm not being serious bwahahahaha.

I know, I was just joining in on the irony.

[Rebekah Rebekah Nicole]

My next best guess for an announcement will be on or after 12/16 and this is simply because that is the date that one of the trademarks is no longer published for opposition. One of the marks is set to be published in the Official Gazette on 11/16.

"The Official Gazette provides anyone who believes they would be damaged by the registration of your published mark an opportunity to challenge the proposed registration. Once the trademark has been published in the Official Gazette, anyone who believes that the registering party's use of the mark might damage him or her has 30 days in which to file an opposition to the registration. If such an opposition is made, the registering party will be informed and then he must fight it or abandon the trademark."

Not that they have to wait for this period to end, mind you, just that there won't be any legal battles going on if there are no oppositions made during this period, therefore by passing this date they are not opposed and can move forward.

[Damian Parsons]

Still no podcast, heh.

[QuinDINGDONGcey]

I've said it before, but I still think we'll be getting a second novel announcement first (possibly coupled with a game announcement), with another couple months of waiting...

Like I said, we may get a twofer, but I really doubt it. :sadvaultboy:

[STEVI INQUE]

What could be a better trick or treat than getting an elder scrolls announcement, come on Bethesda!
@Menes, I doubt they announce the book first, announce the game and then the book a little while longer to keep people hyped during the wait.

[Julia Schwalbe]

They are 2 years into development of their unannounced game. Whether that is an Elder Scrolls game is yet to be known. I have stated numerous times that I think the game will be an entirely new, open-world game. Not Fallout, not Elder Scrolls. This will give Bethesda 3 major games and they'll probably release one per console. XBOX 360/Playstation 3 = Elder Scrolls IV, Fallout 3, and the yet unnanounced game. Repeat for the next generation of consoles, Elder Scrolls V, Fallout 4, new game II.

I'm just curious why you suspect an entirely new game? Can you quote a particular article? Everything I've read seems to suggest TES without actually saying it. And obviously everyone's ruling out another Fallout game. Is it just because you can't imagine another ES on the same generation?

[Lucky Girl]

I'm just curious why you suspect an entirely new game? Can you quote a particular article? Everything I've read seems to suggest TES without actually saying it. And obviously everyone's ruling out another Fallout game. Is it just because you can't imagine another ES on the same generation?

I can't think of any logical reason to come to that conclusion myself. Bethesda's last game, Fallout 3, was a brand new IP for them. Obviously it wasn't "brand new," but it was for them. So assuming they want to tackle yet another new IP, meaning 2 new IPs in a row, doesn't make sense to me.

[Courtney Foren]

I can't think of any logical reason to come to that conclusion myself. Bethesda's last game, Fallout 3, was a brand new IP for them. Obviously it wasn't "brand new," but it was for them. So assuming they want to tackle yet another new IP, meaning 2 new IPs in a row, doesn't make sense to me.

Going slightly off topic I would be much more inclined to think that the ZeniMax MMO is a new IP rather than Bethesda's next game, I agree with you Antibody, it just doesn't make sense esp with other companies under the ZeniMax roof that can consistently pump out new IP.

[^_^]

Still no podcast, heh.

How overdue for it are we?

[Michelle Smith]

How overdue for it are we?

uhh, almost 2 weeks dude, they originally said they wanted one every month but later changed it like twice a month if memory servers.

[Sammykins]

uhh, almost 2 weeks dude, they originally said they wanted one every month but later changed it like twice a month if memory servers.

They initially said they wanted to try to do one every two weeks, with a heavy emphasis on try. There is no concrete schedule yet. We know Nick and Matt went and recorded the podcast a few days ago considering Nick posted about doing so, so I can only imagine it will be released at some point in the next couple of days.

[Hussnein Amin]

not sure if anyone recalls, but ages ago there was an article, of which i remember little of the details, but went along the lines of (todd?) being quoted as saying they were hopeful of a late 2010 release for ESV... probably means nothing this late in the game, being such an old article, however it does give weight to the belief that they are indeed working on ESV and not new IP, and they DID say shortest announce to release time...

[Shelby Huffman]

not sure if anyone recalls, but ages ago there was an article, of which i remember little of the details, but went along the lines of (todd?) being quoted as saying they were hopeful of a late 2010 release for ESV... probably means nothing this late in the game, being such an old article, however it does give weight to the belief that they are indeed working on ESV and not new IP, and they DID say shortest announce to release time...

Way old, it was someone else, and they did say "penciled in." They are almost certainly working on it, and all that says is that they were at least thinking about it way far back. Which is an encouraging thought in its own way.

[barbara belmonte]

not sure if anyone recalls, but ages ago there was an article, of which i remember little of the details, but went along the lines of (todd?) being quoted as saying they were hopeful of a late 2010 release for ESV... probably means nothing this late in the game, being such an old article, however it does give weight to the belief that they are indeed working on ESV and not new IP, and they DID say shortest announce to release time...

I assume you're referring to http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2008/10/bethesda-wants/ article from back in 2008. Paul Oughton, the Sales Director for Zenimax Media, suggested that they would want an ES game released in 2010. Considering that Todd has said that their most recent project is pretty far along after working on it for 2 years (since 2008), I think it's reasonable to assume that this project is indeed TES V.

We have seen this article before, but I suppose it's good to recycle what information we have for newcomers.

It is also possible that Zenimax wanted BGS to make an Elder Scrolls game, but then were convinced by the creative team to fund a AAA game based on the popular line of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_doll, set in a dystopian cyperpunk setting. I guess my point is that while it's very likely that the game they are working on is TES V, and this article supports that theory, nothing is set in stone until an actual announcement of the game.

I know I'm basically just recapping what Computor said, but it's been so long since I've actually made a post with some substance... I just want to feel useful

Edit: Minor grammer issues that I managed to spot through my cloud of ignorance.