[Sabrina Schwarz]

I wouldn't doubt it could be as big as dagger fall.

basicly who knows?everyone is just waiting and asking and waiting again. isnt it like a thorn?it get really annoying sometimes.specially when there are rumors and some fools also come to fill em with lies. well its all w8 and see. but seriously sometimes the patience cannot be afforded xD

[Karl harris]

beth once said that they ready to show us if that one dude said to show everyone however they really want to impress us, so i was thinking that they would reveal there new game that they have been working on at maybe a important day? the website had that age thing added recently maybe its not to long before they add some good news . well we can dream cant we?

[Lisha Boo]

beth once said that they ready to show us if that one dude said to show everyone however they really want to impress us, so i was thinking that they would reveal there new game that they have been working on at maybe a important day? the website had that age thing added recently maybe its not to long before they add some good news . well we can dream cant we?

yes but lets hope the dream stays dream and wont become nightmare.....in a good way

[My blood]

beth once said that they ready to show us if that one dude said to show everyone however they really want to impress us, so i was thinking that they would reveal there new game that they have been working on at maybe a important day? the website had that age thing added recently maybe its not to long before they add some good news . well we can dream cant we?

I believe it was Todd Howard who said that if Pete Hines the VP of PR and marketing walked into his door and said "SHOW IT" they would because, according to him "they have a lot to show."

Also, while im on the subject of Pete Hines and Bethesda's marketing team, after watching the hype train for Fallout New Vegas, I believe Bethesda might be starting a new trend and promoting the hell out of their franchises.

Fallout New Vegas received undeniably a much larger promotional campaign than Fallout 3 ever did. Parties were held, pre-order deals were made, graphic novels were released, Giant props were erected, TV spots were created.

I strongly believe that its in Bethesda's new (marketing) intention, to make Elderscrolls V as big of a hype train as Fallout New Vegas was. Is that a bad thing? Probably not..as FNV lived up to the hype for me. But what does that say about how and when it will be announced...?

Well, some of you know my thoughts on this already...

[MR.BIGG]

I believe it was Todd Howard who said that if Pete Hines the VP of PR and marketing walked into his door and said "SHOW IT" they would because, according to him "they have a lot to show."

Also, while im on the subject of Pete Hines and Bethesda's marketing team, after watching the hype train for Fallout New Vegas, I believe Bethesda might be starting a new trend and promoting the hell out of their franchises.

Fallout New Vegas received undeniably a much larger promotional campaign than Fallout 3 ever did. Parties were held, pre-order deals were made, graphic novels were released, Giant props were erected, TV spots were created.

I strongly believe that its in Bethesda's new (marketing) intention, to make Elderscrolls V as big of a hype train as Fallout New Vegas was. Is that a bad thing? Probably not..as FNV lived up to the hype for me. But what does that say about how and when it will be announced...?

Well, some of you know my thoughts on this already...

i dont know much about this but games that are really hyped up by the company owners are lacking in quality game play such as fable 2 and FNV ( dont get me wrong it was a good game but many flaws) and fable 3 wasnt as good as i hoped it would be. Hopefully TeS V isn't like this though

[Scott Clemmons]

While http://www.gamesradar.com/xbox360/the-darkness/news/rumor-parent-company-of-id-and-bethesda-gobbles-up-another-studio/a-20101104144553649047/g-20060303131525831098 doesn't exactly relate to ESV, it relates to Zenimax and is pretty interesting...

[Jake Easom]

While http://www.gamesradar.com/xbox360/the-darkness/news/rumor-parent-company-of-id-and-bethesda-gobbles-up-another-studio/a-20101104144553649047/g-20060303131525831098 doesn't exactly relate to ESV, it relates to Zenimax and is pretty interesting...

Damn! They never know when to stop, do they? I can't tell whether this is a good thing or a bad thing? What if they end up like EA or Activison, these companies are evil D:

[Deon Knight]

Damn! They never know when to stop, do they? I can't tell whether this is a good thing or a bad thing? What if they end up like EA or Activison, these companies are evil D:

Small companies die in today's world... this is smart, even if we are looking at Zenimax as becoming something of a monster... at least it'll be around!

[Dean Ashcroft]

I believe it was Todd Howard who said that if Pete Hines the VP of PR and marketing walked into his door and said "SHOW IT" they would because, according to him "they have a lot to show."

Also, while im on the subject of Pete Hines and Bethesda's marketing team, after watching the hype train for Fallout New Vegas, I believe Bethesda might be starting a new trend and promoting the hell out of their franchises.

Fallout New Vegas received undeniably a much larger promotional campaign than Fallout 3 ever did. Parties were held, pre-order deals were made, graphic novels were released, Giant props were erected, TV spots were created.

I strongly believe that its in Bethesda's new (marketing) intention, to make Elderscrolls V as big of a hype train as Fallout New Vegas was. Is that a bad thing? Probably not..as FNV lived up to the hype for me. But what does that say about how and when it will be announced...?

Well, some of you know my thoughts on this already...

This is why I think an announcement at the VGAs is likely. After their success with their past few games, Bethesda will want to announce their new game to a wide audience. An announcement on their website seems too quiet for a an upcoming AAA game nowadays. That would also probably lead to a February GI cover after the event.

[Matthew Aaron Evans]

Damn! They never know when to stop, do they? I can't tell whether this is a good thing or a bad thing? What if they end up like EA or Activison, these companies are evil D:

Zenimax is one of the few companies out there that allows the companies it owns extreme amounts of freedom. They can get as big as EA or Activision but as long as they keep doing what they've been doing, i.e. allowing as much freedom as needed, their reputation will be leagues better than the reputation of those companies.

[Fanny Rouyé]

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exactly. while Zenimax owns Bethesda, Beth still does its own thing just as well as before, but has more available reasorces and technology

[cheryl wright]

Zenimax is one of the few companies out there that allows the companies it owns extreme amounts of freedom. They can get as big as EA or Activision but as long as they keep doing what they've been doing, i.e. allowing as much freedom as needed, their reputation will be leagues better than the reputation of those companies.

I look forward to this success, continuing allowance of freedom, and serving as an example of a good gaming giant.

[Casey]

Zenimax is one of the few companies out there that allows the companies it owns extreme amounts of freedom. They can get as big as EA or Activision but as long as they keep doing what they've been doing, i.e. allowing as much freedom as needed, their reputation will be leagues better than the reputation of those companies.

id is still "doing their own thing" but they haven't been owned long enough for us to see if there are any constraints, and the other studios Arkane and Tango were just acquired so same boat there. The only other studios are Vir2L and Mud Duck... and for the life of me I can't think of anything they have put out since they have been acquired so I think it remains to be seen whether or not the Zenimax family will be allowed real independence. I think a driving force within their creative element, BGS, is innately an independent entity in as much as it truly is the creative force that has allowed Zenimax to become an attractive investment and thereby further its growth. If the Zenimax Online project is a TES MMO it will only show that the influence of the true Zenimax creative (BGS) is a driver in the over-all business model. Only time will really tell if the other developers will remain independent creative entities, or whether studios like Arkane will be utilized in a supporting role (which they are best at).

How this relates to TESV, well frankly it doesn't, so I am not going to comment anymore on this... at least in this forum!

[Queen Bitch]

How this relates to TESV, well frankly it doesn't, so I am not going to comment anymore on this... at least in this forum!

ya it does: a better and freer team can make a better game faster.

[Marine x]

Original Riddike game was a sweet and unique action/adventure. And they could teach Bethesda a thing or two about first person combat, then again so could the guys that made Dark Messiah.

[Daniel Brown]

Original Riddike game was a sweet and unique action/adventure. And they could teach Bethesda a thing or two about first person combat, then again so could the guys that made Dark Messiah.

I thought about that. If this compelling evidence is true, then Bethesda has two game studios who've done first-person combat in really good/fun ways.

[Amy Gibson]

Zenimax is one of the few companies out there that allows the companies it owns extreme amounts of freedom. They can get as big as EA or Activision but as long as they keep doing what they've been doing, i.e. allowing as much freedom as needed, their reputation will be leagues better than the reputation of those companies.

I welcome the ascendancy of super entities like Zenimax, although with some hesitation.

Pros -

* Shared technologies, no wasteful developments and overlaps.

* Secure funding, and a body to be answerable to (thinking of Interplay for one).

* It becomes profitable for cater to niche markets, or at the very least safer.

* Possibility of a new generation of executives not clueless or hostile to games or gamers (didn't happen to Hollywood though :sadvaultboy:) Edit: Meaning hostile to it's market.

Cons -

Too many to list. Zenimax is interested in making money above all else, time will tell.

[Dean Ashcroft]

Original Riddike game was a sweet and unique action/adventure. And they could teach Bethesda a thing or two about first person combat, then again so could the guys that made Dark Messiah.

I wonder how much the game companies will influence Bethesda's projects, though. Todd Howard himself said that he knew very little about New Vegas's development, as Bethesda Softworks was looking over Obsidian's shoulder, but Bethesda Game Studios is working diligently on its project.

To be honest, I have a feeling that these companies like id, Splash Damage, etc. will have little, if not nothing to do with BGS. It has already been stated that the project BGS is working on is far along in development.

It's just as likely that Bethesda would learn a thing or two about open worlds by looking at Red Dead Redemption as they would learn something about first person combat by looking at games that are subsidiaries of ZeniMax.

[Anthony Diaz]

I wonder how much the game companies will influence Bethesda's projects, though. Todd Howard himself said that he knew very little about New Vegas's development, as Bethesda Softworks was looking over Obsidian's shoulder, but Bethesda Game Studios is working diligently on its project.

To be honest, I have a feeling that these companies like id, Splash Damage, etc. will have little, if not nothing to do with BGS. It has already been stated that the project BGS is working on is far along.

It's just as likely that Bethesda would learn a thing or to about open worlds by looking at Red Dead Redemption as they would learn something about first person combat by looking at games that are subsidiaries of ZeniMax.

I don't think it would be a gaming commune, just that things can get shared within the Zenimax family that otherwise would be jealously guarded.

Edit: Sometimes huge amounts of time and money could be saved with a half hour chat with a sister company on problems they are facing, rather than spending time reverse engineering a competitors finished product.

[christelle047]

I strongly believe that its in Bethesda's new (marketing) intention, to make Elderscrolls V as big of a hype train as Fallout New Vegas was. Is that a bad thing? Probably not..as FNV lived up to the hype for me. But what does that say about how and when it will be announced...?

I would agree with this. BGS certainly has tremendous amount of reputation, plus capital, and a much larger staff. If TESV is only a six month window from announcement to release it will be a cyclonic force.

While http://www.gamesradar.com/xbox360/the-darkness/news/rumor-parent-company-of-id-and-bethesda-gobbles-up-another-studio/a-20101104144553649047/g-20060303131525831098 doesn't exactly relate to ESV, it relates to Zenimax and is pretty interesting...

I had an eerie premonition about Arkane being purchased, but Tango and Machinegames in less than two weeks (has it been two weeks? I know time flies when you're having acquisitions)? I'm curious as to how much of the $150 million Providence investment will go to game studio acquisitions (and what the balance would be after the last two purchases).

[Rob Smith]

I would agree with this. BGS certainly has tremendous amount of reputation, plus capital, and a much larger staff. If TESV is only a six month window from announcement to release it will be a cyclonic force.



I had an eerie premonition about Arkane being purchased, but Tango and Machinegames in less than two weeks (has it been two weeks? I know time flies when you're having acquisitions)? I'm curious as to how much of the $150 million Providence investment will go to game studio acquisitions (and what the balance would be after the last two purchases).

yes but we cnt figure that out can we?at least for now

[GPMG]

ZeniMax is just acquiring companies left and right, isn't it? The funny thing is in a lot of the articles about ZeniMax, it's usually just called "Bethesda Softworks' parent company." Because until recently the only worthwhile thing they owned was Bethesda/

[CxvIII]

ZeniMax is just acquiring companies left and right, isn't it? The funny thing is in a lot of the articles about ZeniMax, it's usually just called "Bethesda Softworks' parent company." Because until recently the only worthwhile thing they owned was Bethesda/

Interestingly, in the article revealing Machinegames' purchase it refers to Zenimax as the owner of both id and Bethesda Softworks. It seems that id has now squeezed into Zenimax's limelight (not that this is the least bit surprising).

Like everyone else, I'm cautiously optimistic about Zenimax's explosive growth. Financial stability for development and technology sharing are both strong positives. However, anything remotely approaching EA or Activision would ultimately not be a good thing for our beloved series.

As this subject of Zenimax's acquisitions becomes more applicable to discussion, perhaps a separate thread should be created to keep this one clean.

[Penny Wills]

Any reason why id, the creators of Doom, Wolfenstein and Quake became a forgotten acquisition of Zenimax?

[Danny Warner]

Any reason why id, the creators of Doom, Wolfenstein and Quake became a forgotten acquisition of Zenimax?

I don't know, but the answer to that question appears to be beyond the scope of this thread so that discussion should probably happen somewhere else.