[Tinkerbells]

Some of you guys need to chill out with the spam. If you don't have anything to contribute that is worth-while, DON't POST

Anyways, I think we're really close to an announcement, because like Khal said, it's getting (been) quiet, and it's been long enough, so I'm really on the watch now

[Jessie Rae Brouillette]

I was just thinking about something, the Elder Scrolls website mentions about the first Bethesda Podcast (funnily enough the one where Todd talks about his new project) But it doesn't mention any other of the Podcasts. Since its an Elder Scrolls website most of the stuff they post there will be Elder Scrolls related. So does it sound strange that they only mention the Podcast where Todd talks about his new project (could be a hint to TES V), Or am I going nuts and reading too much into things? :confused:

Interesting... I think you're on to something.

[Lauren Graves]

I was just thinking about something, the Elder Scrolls website mentions about the first Bethesda Podcast (funnily enough the one where Todd talks about his new project) But it doesn't mention any other of the Podcasts. Since its an Elder Scrolls website most of the stuff they post there will be Elder Scrolls related. So does it sound strange that they only mention the Podcast where Todd talks about his new project (could be a hint to TES V), Or am I going nuts and reading too much into things? :confused:

Seems like it's just a coinkidink, but I'll reserve judgment until I hear from the thread veterans. Does anybody else know how often the podcast is mentioned on the Fallout site?

[Natasha Biss]

If you look at their past January covers, that isn't the case. They always (or for the past couple years) have a game cover in January.

http://gameinformer.com/mag/covers.aspx

Huh. That was my mistake, then. I don't know why I had it in my head January was the recap issue.

So renew hope, thy Speculators! December is a possibility! Although again, this is assuming a GI cover will be the main means of public announcement. What other avenues might they pursue?

[Ron]

Huh. That was my mistake, then. I don't know why I had it in my head January was the recap issue.

So renew hope, thy Speculators! December is a possibility! Although again, this is assuming a GI cover will be the main means of public announcement. What other avenues might they pursue?

What may be relevant is since Fallout New Vegas was released with a ton of problems and is undergoing many negative user reviews, it's likely Bethesda will step back another time frame. They can ill afford to find out upon release their flagship series encounters too many glitches and freezes across platforms. I'd speculate since it's already been said that the release date from anouncement date will be a shorter time period than ever before that announcement will be substantially delayed for awhile now. New Vegas glitches is a major setback associated with the Bethesda label. Imagine now the amount of game testers devoted to try to work through glitches on New Vegas instead of testing on parts of ESV. They can ill afford any more major problems since most of their new games have run into brick walls in sales. I'd be surpised if an announcement happens anytime this year.

[Angel Torres]

What may be relevant is since Fallout New Vegas was released with a ton of problems and is undergoing many negative user reviews, it's likely Bethesda will step back another time frame. They can ill afford to find out upon release their flagship series encounters too many glitches and freezes across platforms. I'd speculate since it's already been said that the release date from anouncement date will be a shorter time period than ever before that announcement will be substantially delayed for awhile now. New Vegas glitches is a major setback associated with the Bethesda label. Imagine now the amount of game testers devoted to try to work through glitches on New Vegas instead of testing on parts of ESV. They can ill afford any more major problems since most of their new games have run into brick walls in sales. I'd be surpised if an announcement happens anytime this year.

Obsidian made FO:NV, not Bethesda. They keep the time scale that they want, and I don't think they will change it based on their brother studio's mistakes. Also the large team that is currently working on this mystery project is not being affected by the work done to fix the bugs.

[A Boy called Marilyn]

What may be relevant is since Fallout New Vegas was released with a ton of problems and is undergoing many negative user reviews, it's likely Bethesda will step back another time frame. They can ill afford to find out upon release their flagship series encounters too many glitches and freezes across platforms. I'd speculate since it's already been said that the release date from anouncement date will be a shorter time period than ever before that announcement will be substantially delayed for awhile now. New Vegas glitches is a major setback associated with the Bethesda label. Imagine now the amount of game testers devoted to try to work through glitches on New Vegas instead of testing on parts of ESV. They can ill afford any more major problems since most of their new games have run into brick walls in sales. I'd be surpised if an announcement happens anytime this year.

Your idea may have some merit solely in terms of publicity; but in terms of working out glitches I will attempt to temper it with this reply: The responsibility of the glitches is likely due more to Obsidian's shortcomings than it is due to Bethesda's; so it's not really applicable to say that Bethesda will take more time to "get this one right" since technically New Vegas' glitches were Obsidian's fault. However, as even we fans here have difficulty distinguishing that difference, you're probably correct in that the perception is that the glitches are a result of Bethesda's deficiency. The other issue is that New Vegas was built on the same engine as Fallout 3. The new game is being built on a revamped engine that is not the same as NV's engine; so to argue that they'd need more time to work out the bugs is irrelevant.

[Emmi Coolahan]

Thinking from an objective perspective TESV won't be out for another year or so. Here's the reason I believe this to be true.

1. Todd Howard already said they have been working on a secret project for two years.
- It is not a new project simply because if it was they would spam ads like crazy.
2. "At the moment we’ve got Fallout 3 for this year and potentially there’s a new Elder Scrolls title in 2010," Oughton
- This is an old and outdated post, but it does say after Fallout 3 they will be working on TESV.
3. Oblivion was started mid 2002 and released 2004, Fallout 3 2004 released 2008.
- Assuming that they will put more time into TESV then Oblivion to try to listen to our pleas, then expect 3-4 years for completion.
- Yes I know Fallout 3 only took so long due to them getting more acquainted and accurate with Fallout lore and fixing up Oblivions systems, but still expect a similar time if you want a good game.
4. "One thing I can say is that from when you first hear about it to when it's out will be the shortest it's been for us." Todd Howard
- It will not even be announced until they get the details right and get a solid release date so calm down. They won't rush it it to meet an imaginary December deadline, they have their own time.
5. "I can say it is on the existing platforms, which we're really happy with." Todd Howard
- This means you can expect it within one to three years, not tomorrow.
6. "The studio's new engine built for its upcoming title is more beneficial to creating huge, open-world games" Matt Hooper
- Since we know it's not totally a new game since they would have released ads, this just states, Yes they are working on TESV.

If you find flaws in my logic please tell me, but I believe they are working on TESV and we still have around a year to hear about it.

[sarah simon-rogaume]

Thinking from an objective perspective TESV won't be out for another year or so. Here's the reason I believe this to be true.

1. Todd Howard already said they have been working on a secret project for two years.
- It is not a new project simply because if it was they would spam ads like crazy.
-I'm not sure I understand the reasoning behind this. Are you suggesting they would have announced it sooner to allow for more promotional time?
2. "At the moment we’ve got Fallout 3 for this year and potentially there’s a new Elder Scrolls title in 2010," Oughton
- This is an old and outdated post, but it does say after Fallout 3 they will be working on TESV.
-Agreed!
3. Oblivion was started mid 2002 and released 2004, Fallout 3 2004 released 2008.
- Assuming that they will put more time into TESV then Oblivion to try to listen to our pleas, then expect 3-4 years for completion.
- Yes I know Fallout 3 only took so long due to them getting more acquainted and accurate with Fallout lore and fixing up Oblivions systems, but still expect a similar time if you want a good game.
- If you haven't already, check out Anitibody's very informative diagram of significant development dates. By his chart the timing for a late 2011 release is not a problem - especially considering the significantly larger team.
4. "One thing I can say is that from when you first hear about it to when it's out will be the shortest it's been for us." Todd Howard
- It will not even be announced until they get the details right and get a solid release date so calm down. They won't rush it it to meet an imaginary December deadline, they have their own time.
- I agree that they're going to be much more careful with regard to the information they release about TES:V so I would also agree they'll be further along in development when they announce this time compared with Oblivion. That said, I doubt they'll delay any longer than necessary (shortening promotional time and/or increasing development costs).
5. "I can say it is on the existing platforms, which we're really happy with." Todd Howard
- This means you can expect it within one to three years, not tomorrow.
- I don't understand why this excludes a sooner rather than later date. If it's on an existing platform then theoretically I would favor a sooner rather than later date.
6. "The studio's new engine built for its upcoming title is more beneficial to creating huge, open-world games" Matt Hooper
- Since we know it's not a new game since they would have released ads, this just states, Yes they are working on TESV.
- This is a new quote I hadn't encountered yet. Thanks for sharing it! However, this does nothing to prove conclusively that TES:V is being developed (although we're pretty darn sure of it).

If you find flaws in my logic please tell me, but I believe they are working on TESV and we still have around a year to hear about it.

First off, thank you for the well-reasoned post. This is a welcome breath of fresh air in the midst of the stench of useless spam into which this thread has descended. I agree with much of your anolysis, although I do not exclude the possibility of hearing about TESV relatively soon (even if we don't actually play it for a year or more). My comments are inserted directly into the quote.

[Yama Pi]

snip

What about, "It's pretty far along. When we show it, we want to show a lot, because there's a lot of game there to play right now. You know, if Pete Hines came in and said, "I want you to show it," I'd be like, "Okay, I'm ready to show it." But we've just decided for now not to yet."

I'd say that means we're a little closer than a year out from "hearing" about it. 'Till it comes out? I can believe that, but it will be announced before a year is gone... speculatively speaking, of course.

[Colton Idonthavealastna]

It might be worth a shot to try emailing Greg Keyes again for a status update on the book. A few months ago he was halfway through.

[..xX Vin Xx..]

It might be worth a shot to try emailing Greg Keyes again for a status update on the book. A few months ago he was halfway through.

a few months ago he finished the first draft and was waiting for it to be returned, generally it will take 2 months from the first draft to completion unless there are significant problems with a draft, then you have 2ish months for printing,
feb-ish would sound about right, however this would also depend on when bethesda want it released

[Setal Vara]

3. Oblivion was started mid 2002 and released 2004, Fallout 3 2004 released 2008.
- Assuming that they will put more time into TESV then Oblivion to try to listen to our pleas, then expect 3-4 years for completion.

Oblivion was released 2006

[Angela]

I was just thinking about something, the Elder Scrolls website mentions about the first Bethesda Podcast (funnily enough the one where Todd talks about his new project) But it doesn't mention any other of the Podcasts. Since its an Elder Scrolls website most of the stuff they post there will be Elder Scrolls related. So does it sound strange that they only mention the Podcast where Todd talks about his new project (could be a hint to TES V), Or am I going nuts and reading too much into things? :confused:

Todd Howard spoke, he created TES, it is relevant even if he isn't talking about TES.

I am all for tying things together that seem unrelated, so I tried to do this here and I came up with this:

If the PR folks are fully aware of the secrecy of the new project and also aware that it is in fact TES then they wouldn't post only "new project" details on the TES site only when relevant to the "new project" since this would in fact be counter to strategy. Things as diametrically opposed as this are very challenging to tie together, though I certainly applaud the level of focus on TES related items.

[Andy durkan]

Todd Howard spoke, he created TES, it is relevant even if he isn't talking about TES.

I am all for tying things together that seem unrelated, so I tried to do this here and I came up with this:

If the PR folks are fully aware of the secrecy of the new project and also aware that it is in fact TES then they wouldn't post only "new project" details on the TES site only when relevant to the "new project" since this would in fact be counter to strategy. Things as diametrically opposed as this are very challenging to tie together, though I certainly applaud the level of focus on TES related items.

Makes sense, I guess I was reading too much into it. Anyway in this interview:
http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/56308/Bethesdas-Todd-Howard-On-Elder-Scrolls
when asked about a new Elder Scrolls, Todd says he wishes he could give us that answer right now, then when he is asked about what is going on internally at his studio, he says "I would say that we have pretty much the same team. I've worked with a lot of guys for over 10 years – the group that did Morrowind, Oblivion, and Fallout 3. We just really enjoy doing what we're doing. We don’t want to be doing a ton of stuff. There will definitely be – and I'm glad everybody’s patient with us – gaps and sometimes bigger gaps between the titles. We hope it's worth the payoff. Thanks for your patience and bear with us. Hopefully it will be worth the wait." Hmmm... he seems to talk about being patient, is he addressing this to the Elder scrolls fans? Because as far as I'm concerned we are the ones who have been waiting a LONG time. :snoring:

[NEGRO]

Oblivion was released 2006

Sorry, it was a while ago so I forgot. My bad.

[Jesus Sanchez]

Sorry, it was a while ago so I forgot. My bad.

http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/1057/timeline17.png

[Richard Dixon]

http://101arena.com/2010/08/17/is-elder-scrolls-v-closer-than-we-thought/

Important source if you missed out on some information, im not sure if its 100% correct but it sure made me feel a lot better.

[Misty lt]

Speaking of witch the fall out:NV bugs are almost entirely Obsidian haha. http://www.industrygamers.com/news/bethesdas-todd-howard-on-rpg-development-3d-not-supporting-nintendo-and-more/2/


and AntiBody I have that chart saved to my pc from the last time you put it up.

[Brooks Hardison]

It might be worth a shot to try emailing Greg Keyes again for a status update on the book. A few months ago he was halfway through.

I was just thinking the same thing. Someone email him and see what he's up to.

[Nicola]

Will the ps3 version be release late just like it did for TeS: Oblivion? if so i might as well just get the 360 version.

[Sami Blackburn]

Will the ps3 version be release late just like it did for TeS: Oblivion? if so i might as well just get the 360 version.

The PS3 version was released late because it didn't exist. Now that the platform is out there, I am certain that ESV will be released for PC, XBox, and PS3 at the same time.

[Yonah]

Will the ps3 version be release late just like it did for TeS: Oblivion? if so i might as well just get the 360 version.

Get what you can.

We have NO info, really.

This question is presumptive, and speculation cannot absolve presumption.

Until we are without speculation, derivatives are therefor unfounded and by unfounded speculation they are too far removed from reason to be considered.

Your query requires vast leaps where reality cannot comply.

[Neko Jenny]

Get what you can.

We have NO info, really.

This question is presumptive, and speculation cannot absolve presumption.

Until we are without speculation, derivatives are therefor unfounded and by unfounded speculation they are too far removed from reason to be considered.

Your query requires vast leaps where reality cannot comply.

That was all kinds of awesomeness.

[Hazel Sian ogden]

The PS3 version was released late because it didn't exist. Now that the platform is out there, I am certain that ESV will be released for PC, XBox, and PS3 at the same time.

and we can probably sadly expect an exclusive dlc deal with Microsoft as was done with New Vegas sadly......when it is released.