[Nicholas]

Think about it though, despite all the turmoil over the bugs, they still went ahead and announced the first DLC pack for the game today. If they are confident that this turmoil wont effect sales of the DLC for the game causing all the turmoil in the first place, why would they hesitate to announce TES V because of it? Even if it was received negatively by some gamers, unlike the DLC that will be released in a month, TES V will be released at a far off point in the future, at such a time where people will have long forgotten about all of this.

I didn't know about that, awesome. Hope you're right and we hear something about TES V soon. But my other theory is that they will wait until my birthday to announce, so that means no word until September 2.

[Catherine N]

Regardless of that, I really wish Bethesda would rename their publishing department. The mix ups are a pain in the rear and Bethesda Game Studios gets the beating for it, despite having nothing to do with it.

It seems like not a day goes by that I don't wish that same thing. But the reason I think they wont change it is because Bethesda Softworks sort of clings to the popularity of Bethesda Game Studios in order to gain a better reputation. That, of course, hurts Bethesda Game Studios on occasion. But I don't think Zenimax is aware of the negative aspects and wouldn't be able to understand why we would want it changed.

Anyway, yesterday, people here were excited over something. What's going on? Was Mass Effect 3 announced or something?

Bioware released a teaser trailer for some game that will be officially revealed at the 2010 VGAs on December 11th. There was supposed to be another reveal from another company but I'm not aware of whether or not it has been revealed yet. But yeah, some people here thought that other reveal might be TES V.

[Heather Stewart]

It seems like not a day goes by that I don't wish that same thing. But the reason I think they wont change it is because Bethesda Softworks sort of clings to the popularity of Bethesda Game Studios in order to gain a better reputation. That, of course, hurts Bethesda Game Studios on occasion. But I don't think Zenimax is aware of the negative aspects and wouldn't be able to understand why we would want it changed.




Bioware released a teaser trailer for some game that will be officially revealed at the 2010 VGAs on December 11th. There was supposed to be another reveal from another company but I'm not aware of whether or not it has been revealed yet. But yeah, some people here thought that other reveal might be TES V.

How isn't ZeniMax aware of the negative aspects? A stroll through the forums makes it clear. "Bethesda/Obsidian, you guys released an unfinished, crappy product. I'm never buying one of your games again!" and "Obsidian's product only came out rushed because Bethesda forced them to release it!" both make the mistake of taking a shot at Bethesda, the Bethesda that created Fallout 3 and TES series, not, what is in reality, ZeniMax's publishing department. I doubt their sales will be affected too much by the vocal minority screaming about robbery and impatient force by Bethesda, but Bethesda Softworks publishes too many forgetful products to be fair to the company who has had a consistent record of developing very well-received games over the past decade. The similar names have only harmed Bethesda Game Studios, as far as I've seen and well-known game series, such as Doom, don't need Bethesda's title to sell well, especially when that title is plagued by a common thought of mediocrity, and crappy games only tarnish Bethesda's reputation. What does that leave, perhaps a future balancing out at best of Bethesda's reputation instead of staying at an advanced level of superiority and no change in the receiving of money? I'm no businessman, so I'm probably wrong, but I don't see how this benefits either ZeniMax or Bethesda, who have a negative plague attached to their name while they toil away on the games they actually develop so sparsely for 3-4 years each, and still get screamed at for creating unfinished products they had no part in creating.

Two Mass Effect games and one Dragon Age game release by Bioware with another Mass Effect and another Dragon Age already being announced before we even get an announcement for one Elder Scrolls game, eh? This is what I was referring to up above, and Bethesda still gets yelled at, despite working for a longer period of time on a single project than a certain other RPG company.

[MR.BIGG]

How isn't ZeniMax aware of the negative aspects? A stroll through the forums makes it clear. "Bethesda/Obsidian, you guys released an unfinished, crappy product. I'm never buying one of your games again!" and "Obsidian's product only came out rushed because Bethesda forced them to release it!" both make the mistake of taking a shot at Bethesda, the Bethesda that created Fallout 3 and TES series, not, what is in reality, ZeniMax's publishing department. I doubt their sales will be affected too much by the vocal minority screaming about robbery and impatient force by Bethesda, but Bethesda Softworks publishes too many forgetful products to be fair to the company who has had a consistent record of developing very well-received games over the past decade. The similar names have only harmed Bethesda Game Studios, as far as I've seen and well-known game series, such as Doom, don't need Bethesda's title to sell well, especially when that title is plagued by a common thought of mediocrity, and crappy games only tarnish Bethesda's reputation. What does that leave, perhaps a future balancing out at best of Bethesda's reputation instead of staying at an advanced level of superiority and no change in the receiving of money? I'm no businessman, so I'm probably wrong, but I don't see how this benefits either ZeniMax or Bethesda, who have a negative plague attached to their name while they toil away on the games they actually develop so sparsely for 3-4 years each, and still get screamed at for creating unfinished products they had no part in creating.

Two Mass Effect games and one Dragon Age game release by Bioware with another Mass Effect and another Dragon Age already being announced before we even get an announcement for one Elder Scrolls game, eh? This is what I was referring to up above, and Bethesda still gets yelled at, despite working for a longer period of time on a single project than a certain other RPG company.

They either aren't aware or they don't care, because Bethesda Softworks has been publishing sup-par games http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bethesda_Softworks_games Of course, they're currently the most well known they've ever been, so who knows, maybe it will finally dawn on Zenimax that changing the name is a good idea.

[Sun of Sammy]

Two Mass Effect games and one Dragon Age game release by Bioware with another Mass Effect and another Dragon Age already being announced before we even get an announcement for one Elder Scrolls game, eh? This is what I was referring to up above, and Bethesda still gets yelled at, despite working for a longer period of time on a single project than a certain other RPG company.

There are plenty of people who are complaining on BioWare's forums that they are shovelling games out too quick, and I agree. While they make good games, there are just so many of them.

I agree with you about Bethesda Softworks and Bethesda Game Studios having extremely similar names. However, with Bethesda Game Studios being an "in-house" development team, I wonder how much freedom they have in being able to change their name. I know nothing about the subject, though.

[Sophie Louise Edge]

Two Mass Effect games and one Dragon Age game release by Bioware with another Mass Effect and another Dragon Age already being announced before we even get an announcement for one Elder Scrolls game, eh? This is what I was referring to up above, and Bethesda still gets yelled at, despite working for a longer period of time on a single project than a certain other RPG company.

Well let's see. We got 2 Fallout's (I know Beth had no part in FNV's development, STILL), and 1 Elder Scrolls game in the same period of time that ME1, ME2 and DA:O was around. Beth already confirmed they have one project going at full speed and another in pre-production (Probably TESV and FO4), it's only a matter of time before they announce it. They are just taking time to making something big, great and badass. The only advantage Bioware has over Bethesda is more developers.

You don't last 150+ in a single playthrough in any game but Bethesda's. ME1/2 had only 30 hours with all the sidequests completed, all weapons, armor and upgrades purchased. The replayability is way smaller in Bioware's games, and the dynamic and ever changing world and events in Bethesda's games are much more complex than Bioware's. ( eg. ME2's way of choice and consequence, you do something, you get an e-mail, you do the same thing a little different, you get a different e-mail. COMPLEX HUH?)

[K J S]

There are plenty of people who are complaining on BioWare's forums that they are shovelling games out too quick, and I agree. While they make good games, there are just so many of them.

I agree with you about Bethesda Softworks and Bethesda Game Studios having extremely similar names. However, with Bethesda Game Studios being an "in-house" development team, I wonder how much freedom they have in being able to change their name. I know nothing about the subject, though.

I agree, BioWare is shoveling games out far too quickly. Bethesda is doing the right thing by taking their time on ESV, I mean just look at all the hype it's building up! There are at least 5 or 6 people actively posting on this thread!

No but in all seriousness, I am proud of Bethesda for taking their time with ESV. Everyone I talk to seems to be awaiting an announcement, and the game keeps coming up on sites I visit.

[Toby Green]

I agree, BioWare is shoveling games out far too quickly. Bethesda is doing the right thing by taking their time on ESV, I mean just look at all the hype it's building up! There are at least 5 or 6 people actively posting on this thread!

No but in all seriousness, I am proud of Bethesda for taking their time with ESV. Everyone I talk to seems to be awaiting an announcement, and the game keeps coming up on sites I visit.

I was reading an interview with Todd Howard a few months ago in what I believe was Electronics Monthly magazine (Electronics Weekly, maybe?) and there was something he said that made me quite happy. He commented on how some of the publishers were asking if he and his team could speed up the process and make the games a bit smaller so they could sell more and Todd basically said that he shot down the idea. Of course, Todd may be a lying celebrity (Well, he's a celebrity around here, right? ) and I'm not sure if he can make the decisions on whether to keep a game short or not, but that impressed me, and that is why Bethesda is my favorite game company.

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I thought this was the Official TESV Speculation Thread and not the Bioware Speculation Tread

Anyway i hope they anounce it with Cristmas

[Ridhwan Hemsome]

Deleting my post, everyone knows the argument.

[Trey Johnson]

Of course, Todd may be a lying celebrity (Well, he's a celebrity around here, right? ) and I'm not sure if he can make the decisions on whether to keep a game short or not, but that impressed me, and that is why Bethesda is my favorite game company.

I agree. Despite the fact that Bethesda gets more criticism than praise on these forums, I truly respect Todd Howard and his team. They are by far my favorite game developers.

[Andrew Tarango]

I agree, Todd has an excellent team and I think he and his team would sooner leave and create a new studio rather than let the investors control what games they make.

I really do hope the game is skyrim and announced before the end of the year...doesn't the 2008 article say potentially a new elder scrolls in 2010? That seems more like, hey it will come in time just be patient.

[Sarah Edmunds]

This thread is for speculating on TES V not how well other gamesas published games are doing and what not. Let's please keep this thread thread on track.

[Jessie Rae Brouillette]

Has the other announcement that was supposed to occur today been made known? If not, is one actually coming, or was that just a rumor?

[Penny Wills]

Has the other announcement that was supposed to occur today been made known? If not, is one actually coming, or was that just a rumor?

Arkham City.

[Isaac Saetern]

Arkham City.

Wasn't that announced a while ago? I've known about it for a while.

[maya papps]

Wasn't that announced a while ago? I've known about it for a while.

Yeah, it was actually announced at last years VGAs with a prerendered teaser, but outside of some screenshots, no one has seen the game yet.

[David Chambers]

I'll create a VGA speculation thread so we don't clutter up the TESV speculation thread, sounds like an idea :celebration:

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1142191-general-speculation-thread/

[Elena Alina]

I too appreciate Bethesda taking so long to develop their games, and have said so many times in this thread already... but there comes a point where enough is enough and I just want them to announce the damn thing already. Especially considering Todd said he would be ready to show it if he was forced to... in August. I'm as patient as the next guy and will continue to be patient, but ever since we got confirmation from Todd that something will be coming at some point seemingly in the near future, every day that goes by without it being announced I loose a teeny tiny bit of patience.

[Jerry Cox]

Oh and I thought it would be helpful if I re-posted all of the stuff we know about the current status of the sequel to the Infernal City:

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1114652-official-tes-v-speculation-thread-65/page__view__findpost__p__16364813: "Currently finishing up the sequel to the Infernal City"

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1115729-official-tes-v-speculation-thread-66/page__view__findpost__p__16393574: "The guys at Bethesda are currently giving the second draft the once-over, and then it will depend on whether they want changes. It could be as soon as early next year or as long as a year from now."

People have been mentioning lately that we should email him again, and considering the last we heard from him was in September, I say that if we don't hear anything about TES V or the book by the end of the year, someone should definitely email him again.

[Lou]

I too appreciate Bethesda taking so long to develop their games, and have said so many times in this thread already... but there comes a point where enough is enough and I just want them to announce the damn thing already. Especially considering Todd said he would be ready to show it if he was forced to... in August. I'm as patient as the next guy and will continue to be patient, but ever since we got confirmation from Todd that something will be coming at some point seemingly in the near future, every day that goes by without it being announced I loose a teeny tiny bit of patience.

Agree with that completely - I'd rather wait for a fantastic game than have them hurry to make a mediocre one - but still I am hanging on every slight hint about the 'new project' and I also saw the interview where he said it was ready to show, I am at the point now where I would rather have some hard evidence and wait another 2 years for release if need be than to just keep wondering and hoping!!!! If the 'new project' turns out not to be TES V after all this speculation I am sure I will not be the only fan of the series weeping bitter tears, at least put us out of our misery Bethesda...

[Katie Louise Ingram]

hey i know you guys are excited about bethesdas soon to be announcement, so am i. but i have a feeling that bethesda is going to announce a debut of a whole brand new video game series, and i feel it is not TESV...just gotta hope

[Scott Clemmons]

hey i know you guys are excited about bethesdas soon to be announcement, so am i. but i have a feeling that bethesda is going to announce a debut of a whole brand new video game series, and i feel it is not TESV...just gotta hope

Bethesda wouldn't if they understood their limits. Fallout is their new series, and it's already been far too long without another part of the Elder Scrolls series. They can't handle a third, open-world, 3-4 years to develop per game series.

[Karl harris]

hey i know you guys are excited about bethesdas soon to be announcement, so am i. but i have a feeling that bethesda is going to announce a debut of a whole brand new video game series, and i feel it is not TESV...just gotta hope

If it isn't TES V, by rights they should have put us out of our misery long ago with a definitive "the new project isn't a TES game" statement, just for the sake of showing mercy on the huge number of people waiting for an announcement of the next installment. I can't believe that they would risk the ire of their (often hugely dedicated) fans by hyping up a 'new project' and keeping us hanging on only for it to be something else entirely. That would be a.) unnecessarily cruel, and b.) shooting themselves in the foot if they want those people to be inspired to buy their 'new project', rather than feeling depressed that it isn't what they hoped for.

If I and many thousands of others are hoping for a TES V announcement and they announce a completely new concept, that is not the best way to sell that new concept - would have been better for them in terms of sales to make a definitive statement that TES V is not planned for the near future, so that we could anticipate a new IP game instead of being hugely disappointed when we don't get the announcement we've been wanting. That would be a large cross for any NOT-TES-V game to bear, and I honestly don't think their marketing people would be that daft!

[Jessica Lloyd]

I wont buy it or even be in the slightest bit interested if it isnt TES.