[Kayla Oatney]

No, the official word would just be "we don't comment on rumors". That's what officials say no matter what.


There is no such thing. Zenimax already got their own MMO Studio, http://www.zenimaxonline.com/, and do not need Bungie. Bungie is working with Activision Blizzard, not Zenimax.

That makes sense. For some reason I thought I heard Bungie and Bethesda together but for all the digging I've been doing over the last several minutes I'm not finding it in any of my magazines, or on Google so I don't know where the idea came from. It's 1:30 in the morning though...lol

[Richard Thompson]

Its not about how much was sold if we ranked that then CODBO would have destroyed everyone but no we compare what the best game is and not to take this off topic but Oblivion is way better then Fallout 3

i agree, im pretty sure oblivion sold more than morrowind, but morrowind is way better then oblivion

[christelle047]

I just wanted to chime in seeing as I'm Danish and am therefore able to understand and transcribe the original article from Eurogamer Denmark. The article itself can be found here: http://www.eurogamer.dk/articles/2010-11-22-the-elder-scrolls-v-paa-vej

While most of the information mentioned in the various articles and video clips, there is one bit I found a bit suspicious:

P? en rejse med fly i dag sad en af vore redaktionelle medarbejdere ved et utroligt tilf?lde bag en person involveret i spilprojektet.

Roughly this translates to:

By an amazing coincidence one of our editorial staff was seated behind a person involved in the game project during a flight today

The article doesn't specify if there was an actual conversation between the staff member and the source, or if he just happened to overhear something the person said. Furthermore, this entire thing relies is one (1) person's credibility, and that he would assume a direct sequel to Oblivion makes it seem rather fishy to me. However, they do mention in the article that they're sure TES V is in development.

[Robert Jackson]

If it is set in the same "Zone" and is that kind of Sequel....

Cough rehash Cough....

[Tyrel]

Jesus H Christ people.

IT IS NOT A DIRECT SEQUEL. IT WAS MISTRANSLATED.

The correct translation is "The same source confirmed, with official game documents in hand, that this will be the chronological sequel to what happened in The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, which is the latest game in the now 16-years-old Elder Scrolls saga and by itself one of the better RPGs for PC and consoles"

I think I'll go crazy if I have to put up with another 3 months of this.

[Alexis Estrada]

Jesus H Christ people.

IT IS NOT A DIRECT SEQUEL. IT WAS MISTRANSLATED.

The correct translation is "The same source confirmed, with official game documents in hand, that this will be the chronological sequel to what happened in The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, which is the latest game in the now 16-years-old Elder Scrolls saga and by itself one of the better RPGs for PC and consoles"

I think I'll go crazy if I have to put up with another 3 months of this.

What is the difference between "direct sequel" and "chronological sequel"?

[Tiffany Carter]

Jesus H Christ people.

IT IS NOT A DIRECT SEQUEL. IT WAS MISTRANSLATED.

The correct translation is "The same source confirmed, with official game documents in hand, that this will be the chronological sequel to what happened in The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, which is the latest game in the now 16-years-old Elder Scrolls saga and by itself one of the better RPGs for PC and consoles"

I think I'll go crazy if I have to put up with another 3 months of this.

Not true. From the original article I posted previously:

Samme kilde bekr?ftede, med officielle spildokumenter i h?nden, at dette bliver en direkte forts?ttelse til The Elder Scrolls: Oblivion

Translated:

The same source confirmed, with official documents in his hand, that this will be a (direct continuation of/direct sequel to) The Elder Scrolls: Oblivion

Not one part of that sentence justifies using chronological in its translation.

Not taking my word for it? Fine I will translate word for word:
at = that
dette = this
bliver = will be
en = a
direkte = direct
forts?ttelse = continuation
til = to (prepositions can be different between Danish and English)
The Elder Scrolls: Oblivion.

What is the difference between "direct sequel" and "chronological sequel"?

Chronological only indicates that the events of the sequel will take place sometime after the events of the previous game.
Direct indicates that it takes place directly after the events and that the plots are directly linked to each other. (If you read too much into it, it could also mean that the same protagonist will be used)

[Naughty not Nice]

Not true. From the original article I posted previously:



Translated:


Not one part of that sentence justifies using chronological in its translation.

Not taking my word for it? Fine I will translate word for word:
at = that
dette = this
bliver = will be
en = a
direkte = direct
forts?ttelse = continuation
til = to (prepositions can be different between Danish and English)
The Elder Scrolls: Oblivion.



Chronological only indicates that the events of the sequel will take place sometime after the events of the previous game.
Direct indicates that it takes place directly after the events and that the plots are directly linked to each other. (If you read too much into it, it could also mean that the same protagonist will be used)

We've asked the author of the story, Eurogamer Denmark Editor-in-chief Kristian West, to translate into English for us (apparently Google doesn't do it justice). Here's what he said:

"This source not only confirmed that the game is in current production, but also spoke briefly about the content - with fantasy-sounding phrases like Dragon Lord, something with The Blades - and that voice acting for the characters in the game is currently happening in the weeks to follow.

"The same source confirmed, with official game documents in hand, that this will be the chronological sequel to what happened in The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, which is the latest game in the now 16-years-old Elder Scrolls saga and by itself one of the better RPGs for PC and consoles.

Direct translation from original poster. Note, "chronological ".

[Holli Dillon]

Direct translation from original poster. Note, "chronological ".

Then he is lying. Direkte = Direct and there's no way in hell it can be translated "chronological." Maybe they misspoke when writing the original article, but it does say "Direct."

[Laura Samson]

Snip

This. But I think what Sean33 was saying still applies. I believe Bethesda would make it the direct sequel as in "All the dragon born peeps are gone, the empire is in turmoil, and TES V is based on this turmoil."

This is more a sequel than Oblivion was to Morrowind, which is why the words direct sequel may be used.

This is actually what I'm hoping, seeing as we have no idea about anything really.

[Alba Casas]

I have a hard time believing that a Daedric invasion and the collapse of the empire will not have strong effects on TES V's setting, so could "direct" be referring only to a setting taking place in the aftermath and being based directly off of the events in Oblivion? The plot of Oblivion encompassed all of Tamriel in a very large event, unlike Morrowind's and Daggerfall's plots, which were regional.

[Suzy Santana]

I have a hard time believing that a Daedric invasion and the collapse of the empire will not have strong effects on TES V's setting, so could "direct" be referring only to a setting taking place in the aftermath and being based directly off of the events in Oblivion? The plot of Oblivion encompassed all of Tamriel in a very large event, unlike Morrowind's and Daggerfall's plots, which were regional.

A direct squeal means this....
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/direct

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sequel

and to make you folks happy the second one that shows up is
b : the next installment (as of a speech or story); especially : a literary, cinematic, or televised work continuing the course of a story begun in a preceding one

Direct meaning probably number 3 in this case
: to cause to turn, move, or point undeviatingly or to follow a straight course


So to Sean, in a direct sense it is

[Robert Jr]

I think the Infernal City will have more of an impact on TESV's story then anything else but thats a discusion for a different time. I'm still thinking early January is when they will announce it.

[Lizbeth Ruiz]

I hope it's not a direct continuation of Oblivion's story, since that was pretty weak.

I want a political power struggle.

[Emily Martell]

So basically the Eurogamer article says: TES V is being made. With no actual solid info, other than its a direct sequel which personally I read as meaning its a sequel the way Oblivion was to Morro... So really what's the difference between this and someone coming here and saying exactly the same thing other than the fact its been published on Eurogamer who may or may not have bought this story from a freelancer? Don't get me wrong Beth will make TES V but lets not also forget an announcement is just that. It doesnt mean we'll be given a release date, it doesnt really imply we'll be fed a lot of trailers or sneak peeks. It just means Bethesda have announced they are making it. So even an announcement really isnt that big a deal as we all know TES V is a given. Now a release date that would get me excited. Hope i'm not being too much of a downer.

[John N]

I still say Bethesda declining to comment on the story is them basically confirming that TESV is being developed.

[Melissa De Thomasis]

I still say Bethesda declining to comment on the story is them basically confirming that TESV is being developed.

Or perhaps any comment from a dev or anyone involved with the project could be breaking their NDA?

[Lisha Boo]

You build off the hype of your previous release and that previous release was FO: New Vegas the video gaming industry generally targets people in the 20-35 range and 14-24 age range.

It wasn't the age part it was the "living in apartments" part which seemed odd to correlate/track/target.

[Betsy Humpledink]

Or perhaps any comment from a dev or anyone involved with the project could be breaking their NDA?

But them saying No Comment pretty much confirms they are making TESV. I don't understand why they wouldn't just lie and say we aren't making it at this time.

[Devin Sluis]

Anyone remember this?

http://www.whois-search.com/whois/www.elderscrolls5.com

I followed some links from a few pages back and ended up at that. The domain name was registered last year in June '09, it expires next year in June '11, and it was last modified this past June '10.

So, right. More a question of when than if, as has been stated.

I'm not sure if there is any other pertinent information there, but maybe it's worth a look. Think June or the 6th has any significance?

[FoReVeR_Me_N]

What in the world are we even talking about? Are people freaking out because TESV will be a sequel of TESIV? Is that REALLY what's happening?

Because... I mean stay with me here, it's been almost 2 years since my last math course, but... I believe it goes ONE... then TWO... then THREE... then FOUR and then FIVE.

So if TESI was Arena, it's sequel was TESII: Daggerfall, whose sequel was TESIII: Morrowind, whose sequel was TESIV: Oblivion, which will of course be followed by TESV.

Am I that rusty at math or is this common [censored] sense?

[Sam Parker]

hmmmm don't know what to suggest for all that information

[Chenae Butler]

What is the difference between "direct sequel" and "chronological sequel"?

Dig this:

Final Fantasy VII was the sequel to Final Fantasy VI, the games do not closely share a spatial or temporal setting.

Final Fantasy XII 2 was the direct sequel to Final Fantasy XII, featuring the same characters, etc, etc.

[vicki kitterman]

What in the world are we even talking about? Are people freaking out because TESV will be a sequel of TESIV? Is that REALLY what's happening?

Because... I mean stay with me here, it's been almost 2 years since my last math course, but... I believe it goes ONE... then TWO... then THREE... then FOUR and then FIVE.

So if TESI was Arena, it's sequel was TESII: Daggerfall, whose sequel was TESIII: Morrowind, whose sequel was TESIV: Oblivion, which will of course be followed by TESV.

Am I that rusty at math or is this common [censored] sense?

I was fumbling around in my mind for a satisfactory response to the pointless debate - until I came across this. Well put! People, TES:V is NOT going to be Oblivion 2. Expect it to be distinct on its own. Just as Oblivion contrasted with Morrowind which contrasted with Daggerfall, so will TES:V contrast with Oblivion.

When I first started hanging around here the big debate was the comparison between Daggerfall and Morrowind. Once Oblivion was released, the debate shifted to comparing Morrowind and Oblivion. When TES:V comes out, the debate will once again shift to comparing it with Oblivion.

[brian adkins]

I still say Bethesda declining to comment on the story is them basically confirming that TESV is being developed.

False dichotomy FTL.

If that were true, then TESV has been confirmed at least a dozen times in the last two years.

Big companies do not comment on rumours until they gain silly amounts of traction in the mainstream and threaten investor confidence.