I've read fanfiction that's better written than this. It's horrible.

The concept is fine, but the writing - ack!

It's funny. Not to criticize your opinions or anything, but I'm normally extremely critical of authors I don't know, and I thoroughly enjoyed this book.

What exactly did you dislike about it, if you don't mind my asking?

I take it you have'nt been through a savannah before its more exciting than it sounds trust me.

America and Great Britian did and they got away with it.

Actually, there was a lot more than that, a lot more. A heck of a lot more than you really know. But discussing it could lead to politics, so I'll leave it at that and tell you to grab a history book that explains what America tried to do post-civil war. It was quite rough.

Technically yes, but it goes back much further than that. Like, 3600 years back, with Dagoth Ur going cooqoo and joining Almsivi in stolen divinity. Granted, the Nerevarine Prophesies may have been made and fulfilled anyway, but I doubt it, not with there being no immediate, epic threat to Azura's people (that could be reasonably predicted by any of us fans).

Were Ur to have failed way back in the First Era, or just not lost his marbles, the Tribunal would still be basking in the uber-powerful rays of the Heart of Lorkhan, and, of course, no rock of any size would be a problem for them. Especially since there'd be no Ghostfence to be maintained.

So, I suppose the People-Of-The-Root owe Dagoth Ur a thank you.

BTW, I'm very curious as to who may have survived Landfall. And where is this "200 years 'till next ES game" crap coming from?

Those who escaped Vvardenfall and onto the mainland. From there, trek northwards to Solstheim and ask the dunmer there. But we most likely won't know exactly who till the 2nd book, if they're mentioned.

That was information that was found in review copies of the Infernal City, and it also said that it was projected to come out in 2010.
It's debatable whether the information is accurate or not. Bethesda themselves said the info was printed without their knowledge and said the 2010 info was inaccurate (no commentary on the 200-years).

Finally read through the whole book, and I don't really understand the ending... Sul attacks Vuhon and then Umbriel vanishes, if I read correctly? I don't get that.

Sul, knowing he's still in Oblivion, knows that he can teleport easy. So he grabs Attrebus with a pained "not yet" and teleports away, leaving us with a cliffhanger. Did they escape Oblivion? What fresh hell may they be in now?

Also, I love the limitless nature of books: two Daedra the like of which we've never seen make appearances, the one Sul summons on Umbriel (also only possible because Umbriel is a bubble of Oblivion space) and the one that crazy witch [censored] (the censor will remove the rhyme, unfortunately) summons that Colin manages to survive encountering.

I also love how all the inhabitants of Umbriel are blissfully unaware that they are Daedra, and only a few even know what Daedra are. I love the implications that the realms and lands between the main Prince's spheres are apparently limitless and teem with lifeforms we can only imagine.

Nuts. If they're mentioned in the book, it'll most likely be because they're some kind of major player (like Helseth), as opposed to someone I'd be more interested in knowing the fate of, like S'virr, who I believe could've survived, given his distance from the impact zone.

"Last boat to Solstheim. No, really, I mean it this time. Better get on... You still have to pay."



Good news to me, I don't want to skip so far ahead to be honest. There's too much good stuff going on in this first century of the Fourth Era.

I kind of hope that Helseth and Barenziah managed to flee the tsunamis (or whatever would have hit Mournhold). I have a feeling that they didn't, but I respect that they've had to be survivors all their lives.

A pretty significant portion of the Inner Sea most likely washed right over the mainland, and, by my measure, definitely reached Mournhold. I doubt the two got out in time, but may have survived anyway, possibly by retreating underground.

I don't think you escape water by going underground.

I read this in the Holiday 2009 issue of the Official XBOX Magazine, page 91, bottom right corner, in the "Crystal Ball" section, first sentence.

"In an exceptionally clear vision, the Ball reveals Elder Scrolls V currently in the works at Bethesda, with the game set 200 years after the events of Oblivion..."

Of course, this is the gossip section of the magazine. But, I can't ever recall the "Crystal Ball" (previously known as the "Rumor Mole") being wrong.

I wasn't going to pick this book up as I've only been interested in the next game rather than other merchandising, but as I skimmed the thread catching all of the interesting bits of information folks were sharing I felt like I was missing out. I picked it up on Monday and finished it yesterday, and I must say, this novel was much better than I'd been expecting. It seemed as though it was written for Elder Scrolls fans rather than as an attempt to draw in newcomers (as in "Oblivion"...). It provided great information on the two provinces that I'm most interested in but know that I'll never see: Black Marsh and Elswyr. And there were a lot of small touches that I appreciated. The tavern names reminded me of Daggerfall, and that's always a good thing.

Overall, I feel that the novel is a success. Waiting for an announcement for TESV just became a lot more tolerable with this novel, and with knowing that another novel is on the way. I can't wait for the next one.

I am amongst the countless hordes who have not read the book yet- so I apologize for posting in this thread, however it seemed to me something had to be said. There seems to be quite a divide over the destruction of Morrowind here. That is completely understandable from my viewpoint- but I do no think any should blame The author of the book or Bethesda for being so damn successful- you see my friends, it seems that they have convinced us all already that we are denizens of Tamriel- now from the standpoint of those of us that are intrinsically Dunmer, the destruction of morrowind is quite devestating. I had read about the love letter in the past and chose to ignore it, hoping it would never come to pass, and right now I feel a bit like Spock- Mourning for the loss of his Planet (although perhaps I am more like Nero- mourning something that has not yet come to pass- at least from the perspective of my current Morrowind Game). We Dunmer are now part of an Endangered Species- and while that makes us even more awesome in one way you can be rest assured that their will be at least some Backlash amongst those who love the Dunmer as I do. Don't get me wrong, I am as excited as ever about getting and reading the book- even despite the major blow I know is coming, but just don't be surprised if I all the sudden stop freeing Slaves and cooperating with the Twin Lamps (my Telvanni Character does this on Occasion- freeing Betmer and Enslaving humans Instead). Or if I suddenly really get the urge to Massacre all the N'wahs in my game. Or even say if someone decides to make their own counter fan fiction- I see nothing wrong with that. I just think that everyone should recognize that the games have instilled in us all their traits and personalized the experience for many, so yeah it's going to take some getting used to the fact that Morrowind is gone and I think everyone else should get used to the idea that thee will be retribution. I can't wait to read the book, sounds good- will definitely get me riled up, and that's really a good thing, something entertainment should do. So let's just cool the tempers shall we.

Ja'rah thinks people who think they are Dunmer have eaten too much sugar. Purrr.

I finished the book the other day. And I have to say it was wonderful ^_^ I had low expectations, But they got higher while I read what you guys had to say waiting on it to arrive at my door.
Boy did it jump right over the bar. Greg Keyes really made me feel like I was there, Or perhaps reading one of the many great books in the game. He captured the essence of the elder scrolls very well.
I am super excited for the next novel!!! :]

You can if you can seal the entrance behind you (like with the sewers of Mournhold), and find a place to emerge later that's not so flooded you can't swim to the surface. Unlikely, yes, but so is being the prisoner who's cell just happens to be the one the Emperor needs to escape through.



The more I think about that possibility, the more I don't like it.

Unfortunately, the water is also boiling.

(But as long as that doesn't do more than 10 health damage per second Helseth should be fine. )

This all does make you question Azura's Motives for sending the Nerevarine to Morrowind in the first place. One thing that always bothered me about Azura was that according to lore she Cursed the Chimer and made them the Dunmer of Today. yet despite that she seems to have an unwholesome affinity for the Dunmer that no Daedra save perhaps Malacath has for any race on Tamriel. Makes you wonder if she sent the Nerevarine to exact one final punishment on the Dunmer by the Nerevarine's actions concerning the Tribunal.

I also have wondered why the Nerevarine was seemingly sent on a suicide mission to Akavir. Perhaps this was because they could have saved Morrowind from destruction- my premature theory is that perhaps Azura gave Uriel Septim VII some dreams- seems pretty obvious that is what happens at the beginning of Morrowind much as at the beginning of Oblivion. Perhaps those dreams didn't end there- perhaps it was Azura's visions to Uriel that made him send the Nerevarine to Akavir. Just a thought. Sounds like we will have to wait until the second book or longer to really figure out what's going on, though again I have not read the first book as of yet so feel free to correct me.

Azura can't touch dreams, that is the realm of Vaernima.

What are these two new Daedra like?