Just playing devil's advocate here, but if Bethesda cannot talk about New Vegas because it's 'not their game' then how are they supposed to talk about Brink or RAGE or any game not being developed by Bethesda since they're not Bethesda's games either?

It would be nice if they had TES V to show and/or talk about at E3 but I'm not holding my breath.

Oblivion was one of the first games available for the Xbox 360, which in my opinion significantly contributed to it's success. This is because when a new console comes out there are only a handful of games available for it so they all get more attention and publicity.

So I dare say that we'll see a new TES when we see a new xbox and no sooner.

hehe, I bet Gstaff and the devs are having a good time reading about our speculations. After all they are the only ones who really can tell us how far away/close from the truth we are :ninja:

i kinda like the idea of a TES mmo i always felt like oblivion could do with some multiplayer (i am prepared for my ripping)

I'm fairly certain that the next TES will be current gen. However the next Bethesda based Fallout game might be a launch title for the next generation of gaming.

Yeah, no thanks. I don't want to see another World of Warcraft. I don't want to have to depend on other people to help me finish quests. I also don't want to pay for internet, and playing at work is just not feasible.

MY biggest fear is that my less-than-3 month old laptop will not be able to play the next TES game. And if they wait for a new game system before releasing it... I'll cry a little bit and then svck it up and sell the 360 that I hardly play anyway.

My hopes are up, too late. As for the "never announce at E3" people need to stop thinking like Bethesda is still a small, obscure company that nobody knows about. It's a big name now, and so they need to play by big boy's rules.


I hope not, and I think not. Yes, being the only actual game out for the 360 for months was a contributing factor, but now, like i said, they're big. They don't need to resort to cheap tricks like that to sell, now it's like mario or Legend of Zelda, their reputation alone will sell games.

Sorry about the lousy typing, everyone.

Bethesda was not a small obscure company that no-one knew about when Oblivion was announced via Game Informer. Bethesda was by no means a small obscure company that no-one knew about when FO3 was announced via Game Informer. It was a big name then, just as it is a big name now. They play by their own rules; they have since ZeniMax brought them from the brink of collapse.

Far be it from me to dissuade you from an E3 announcement, but past precedent doesn't encourage it.

I have two opinions about release dates.

Late 2011/early 2012 (possibly late 2012 even)

OR... they wait for the next Xbox/Playstastion generation to be released. Which might also not be as far off as people think. But I would safely say it'd be more than two years yet.

TESV is probably my most anticipated game though. I bought Morrowind when I was 10 and enjoyed it at that young age. Oblivion was the reason why I bought my 360 when I was a freshman in highschool (took all my money =D). And by the time TESV comes out I'll probably be in my sophmore/junior year in college (I hope, I might be out of college the way things are moving =D).

Or they'll announce shortly before E3 (likely via Game Informer), and then follow up with a fuller release of info (and maybe a trailer) at the expo. That's what I'm currently betting on.

Lately, more and more I've been dreading the prospect of ES:V being an MMO.



That would totally kill the series for me. The whole MMO genre is stagnant and palyed-out, yet everyone thinks they need one. Between that and online multiplayer, there aren't going to be any good single-player games anymore. It's fun to play with other people sometimes, but a lot of the time, I'm not playing video games out of a desire for social contact.


Plus, I'm not sure I could ever level through another MMO again haha.

You are correct about Bethesda being big, but why go into battle with a big army when you could go into battle with an even bigger one?

The main reason why I think they are waiting for the next generation of consoles is because if they weren't they'd have probably anounced TES V by now. Another thing is that the current generation of consoles is nearing it's end. There are speculations about a new generation coming out in 2011 or 2012. While they might not need TES V to be the first game available for the new xbox, they probably won't want to be one of the last for the xbox 360.

And they'll want TES V to have better graphics than Oblivion.

I think one TES game per generation is actually a pretty good idea. It gives each TES game enough time to run it's course, they have plenty of time to gather player feedback and see which mods are the most popular, and last but not least it gives them the opportunity to really polish up the game.

That and it gives me enough time to save money for a new computer.



Don't worry, from what I've read in interviews with Bethesda TES V isn't going to be an MMO. We might get a TES MMO in addition to TES V, but TES V is going to be a singleplayer game again.

I hope that's true. I'll buy every singleplayer game they release. But I don't have the self-loathing to do the same thing I've done in a dozen MMOs all over again haha.

Here, I found http://bethblog.com/index.php/2009/08/17/clarifying-about-next-elder-scrolls-game-mmo-etc/ by Pete Hines from August. He clearly states that Todd & co aren't working on an MMO and also says that they are going to make TES V, but we shouldn't expect it anytime soon. Of course that was 6 months ago, so it doesn't rule out an anouncement on this year's E3.

But there is a ZeniMax team working on an MMO and it seem reasonable to expect that it will be set in the TES universe.

There wont be a new console generation in 2012. EVERY TIME Microsoft, or Sony, or an industry anolyst talks about this generation, they say it's going to last much longer than 2012. Microsoft has said MULTIPLE times that the Xbox 360 hasn't even hit the halfway point in it's life-cycle yet. Chances are that Fallout 4 will be a launch title for the next generation, but TESV would come out waaaaay too early, I doubt the next generation will have even been announced yet. This generation is different, the hardware in current consoles are sufficient to keep this generation going for many years. Of course, the Wii isn't, but the Wii is irrelevant when talking about TESV because Todd Howard would never develop a TES or Fallout game for it.

Could the Wii even run Oblivion? My friend has one and the graphics are like a polygon barf of childish drawings. Seriously each character had like 3 colours

Its GPU would cry salty silicon tears. And then it would combust.

Because it is easier for things to get out of hand? Nah, Bethesda is so tight lipped the only mistakes we would be likely to see would be grammar.
Grammar which has and would cause speculation to run rampant. :ahhh:

Or something along the lines of a hyped product that did not make the final cut. :stare: Repeating that would be a bit cheap on Beth's part.


In any case I am the type to go crazy over the facial expressions Pete had on the podcast. It could tell us something.

Think about it...

To be honest, I'm kind of glad that Bethesda isn't make a huge public event over TES V. I mean, from my experience, hype is used as a tool to cover up flaws in a game, so it sells like hot cakes in the first month before everyone realises it's crap. So, the fact that there's no hype has caused me to change my stance of grudging acceptance TES will never be as good as pre-Oblivion, to a cautious optimism that it might be different this time.

Still, Fallout being so similiar to Oblivion makes me still have a lot of doubt.

Gotta agree with xXAntibodyXx on this one. TESV will more than likely come out for the 360, and possibly PS3. I just hope all this time being spent on it, and the mystery behind it is worthwhile. I although really REALLY hope it's single player, just like Morrowind, and just like Oblivion.
I hope they combine Morrowinds gameplay style with Oblivions combat/graphics system.
Dear god, can you even comprehend any thing more perfect?

The man speaks the truth.

...wait

Oh wise and ever glorious Bethesda King, we beseech you! Give us hints!

How about Morrowind's leveling system?

Before anyone answers this, i would like to say that this is not the suggestions forum. :nono:

http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=1078557&st=120&start=120

How is the leveling system in Oblivion much different than that of Morrowinds? You level up 10 major skills, and you level up. Simple as that. o.0
With the exception of NOT having minor skills that also level you up, and being only to train 5 times a level, I see no difference.

Enemies don't level with you in Morrowind.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Creatures#Goblin_Warlord

These things are a pain during level 20-25 (without using exploits such as spell stacking and such).