LT every thread turns into it. Don t you remember yesterday when I was told I couldn t "formulate an opinion" on good or evil because I didn t play fo2. OG does it all the time they re just alot more sneaky about it. These kids just come out and post a thread lol Gotta love the balls. lol Either that or they just don t know what goes on under the scenes on this board on a day to day basis. I didn t either till I really spent a little time on it.

no, I definitely think New Vegas has great value-for-money and replayability (is that even a word?). But it DOES also get boring quite quickly. I said that on my first runthrough the week it came out.. wow.. desert.. tumbleweeds roll past (literally too lol). Once you've played it twice, and know the quests, know basically where the spawning points are, it's too predicable. Sorry Obsidian, it is. It's getting to the stage now that I just come out of the Docs and go north through Quarry Junction, cos I know where to go to avoid the deathclaws.

The only thing stopping boredom for me are the great Mods on the nexus, and the promise of DLCs. If I was on an Xbox or something, I think I would have given up by now though... or dug out FO3

This is why people role play. Just because you, the gamer, knows that you can sneak up the 15 doesn't mean your character does. Good RPgamers don't make decisions their characters wouldn't. If you use all the knowledge you have from previous playing without actually role playing, of course it would get boring. Are the people bored with the game allowing the game to play them or are they playing the game? I sometimes think there's a whole bunch of people who say they "role play" that have absolutely no idea what that really is.

-Gunny out.

In 4 hours I think I was still in primm lol How did u get that far that fast. I was mad when I got to the endings and figured out what they had done that was like 180 hrs. I didnt get bored until about after my second play through. The whole ending thing just dumb, flawed

When I started coming on here alot is when I was officially bored. Then I saw there was people that thought that the endings were genius and I just had to stay and figure it all out. What makes them tick? How could they not see all the holes and flaws in the endings? Then it hit me "old guard". Blinded, because they hated fo3. I knew I had to stay then. Try to get it worked out, but there s no hope. It s a small battle almost every thread. At least everyone practices arguing/debating. It s mentally healthy.....If done correctly

If more people said this^^^^^ Then we d be one the right track. Damn LT you have a way with words. I think u could be Enclave pres. one day if you keep it up, and yearn to kill every human on the face of the earth for the greater good.

Problem is some of the biggest differences in the games r the foundation of the debates. It would have to hang by a thin thread. If they could do it, it probably would be the greatest game ever.

I had 2400 in fo3 and I have over 500 in nv now. Do I know anything???

I wouldn t go and say it was poor, but a least you said in your opinion. When you say it filled you with disappointment here..... It really makes me feel bad for you a little. They did a fine job... Well worth the money. Just think I bough it twice brand new. Once for 360 then my third one of those burnt up. Then I got PS3 and wasn t going to get it, because of the whole Dead Money 360 exclusive thing. I came on here and flipped for a few days. Then in only 2 months they put the dlc out for the other platforms and dropped the price of the game by $30.00. I bought it again and not used, but brand new. Just so they could get 2 sales from The Rook.

There s some things I don t like about it, but its still a good game.....up until it splits into 27 flawed endings. Even then its still worth the money.

not really, i did everything in oblivion except the dlc in 55 hours over a 7 day span,

Here s the thing king. In fo3 when the story got boring you just take your men and go out. Then you d find Arlington National Cemetery. My guy got in the sneak position to honar the valor of the fallen from other bloody chapters in human history 100s of years before. He only read about them in books in the vault,but there they were right before his eyes. There is no moment like that in nv. All the things that didn t have anything to do with the story is what turns 250 into 500 then 1000 then 2400. Part of it was being the ruins of the capitol of the United States. In great detail...

not to be rude but i seriously doubt that. 600 hours in NV? please. i cant even get 60 out of it and i did everything in the guide from beginning to end. 400 in Fo3? that i believe because Fo3 was orgismatic, as for the other two i never played so for all i know the story is 800hours ha, but! if your hours are for real then all i have to say is....

I m pretty sure he said he was going to play elder scrolls. Fo3 and nv are both on the same engine. Problem is there s not enough of any thing worth shooting in nv.. You should look into thosd great ending choices they gave you a little closer. You ll find they r flawed. Robots named yes man that still run Houses end game. You can t tell him what you really want to do with those securitrons. Hey did you here the one about the NCR waitinb for a week for their dead president to show up??? Then you get there and tell u you re on security detail, but he s not coming, because the dude is dead. How about how you can t tell House you ve already joined the bos when he tells you to kill them. He may have chanbed his mind or he might have tried to kill u, but we ll never know. Had to kill him.

I like it just not as much. I ll get back on it and finish my CL guy one day. His ending will probably be the only one that isn t flawed. If you Plus the dlcs that will come out one day I think.

Key word is "guide". IMO if you bust out a guide or go on wiki you cheated yourself out of hundreds of hrs of game play. PS3 stops keeping track of hours after so long. Or they are somewhere else, but Im not far behind him and I don t even like the game as much as he does. Now 360 always shows hrs. I don t know why ps3 stops telling you. Maybe it doesn t want me to know what a loser I am. lol Its for my own good. Now I will go one wiki to see what I missed but not until I m sure I can t do anymore without cheating.

Rook,

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I cant argue with this, you just dont like the endings, and the game overall, this dont have logic at all

3. You just preffer 3 over NV, some of us feel the opposite, its called opinion, get used to. with all due respect it :wink_smile:

4.See? this becoming another VS thread again :whistling:

5. I got bored of FO3, but I didn create a post about it

6. Why is this thread not locked yet?

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Rook,

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I cant argue with this, you just dont like the endings, and the game overall, this dont have logic at all

3. You just preffer 3 over NV, some of us feel the opposite, its called opinion, get used to. with all due respect it :wink_smile:

4.See? this becoming another VS thread again :whistling:

5. I got bored of FO3, but I didn create a post about it

6. Why is this thread not locked yet?

I like it or I wouldn t have over 500hrs in it. I don t like it as much, but Im not upset that I bought it. The game is well worth the money.

PM me and I ll tell you all about the flawed endings.

The post isn t locked because no one has really got out of hand. If they lock every post that is fo3 vs nv or fo3 vs fo & fo2 then a lot of posts would get locked.

As long as every one is cool why would they lock it. There should be people from Bethesda and Obsidian reading threads like this to help make the best game ever.

In threads like this sometimes there is really good info from both sides that should be taken into account. This one may not be the greatest example, but I ve seen ones that have tons of good points and ideas from both sides.

I swear i'm also getting bored of these thread posts about being bored, its like "and? You came on the forums after basically playing the game non-stop and have done said things and now you want to complain that your getting bored of the game? we needed to know this why? You can't play a different game and give the game a break why?" Everytime I see these threads being posted I think why hasn't it been locked. Maybe they should put perm "what to do when your bored section"

Well, you can write it here, I would also like to know your definition of a "flawed ending".

Or even better, make a thread about why the endings are flawed, I want to see you thoughts about it, because I dont see how "they let kids to the rest of the history" is a valid point

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Is a RPG, of course they can, you choose a destiny, then you see the consequences, Fallout is all about Gray and Grey Morality, both sides have good yet at the same time bad intentions, or they do bad things to achieve goodness

(Curiosly enough , Brazil banned some RPG games for some time for that reason,)

That's the problem with New Vegas. Almost every location is tied into a quest. Once you've done the quests, there is *almost* nothing left to do. There are small locations, shacks, the Cross on the hilltop, but there is nothing to do there except dodge some radscorpies.

In FO3 they had the location tie-ins, but then they took the time to fill out all the spaces inbetween with stuff too. Yeah, we can mod it and "add stuff", but point is we shouldn't have to. It should be baked into the game design. All it would have taken is a couple more of the team to just spend time putting in.. stuff. Interesting stuff. I'm sure that's what Bethesda did. (In FO3 forums, there were threads about "all the cool stuff you've stumbled on". I haven't seen any such threads in FONV

Im on a ps3 smert, and I can t edit and lengthen the posts. I can edit them, but the ps3 word limit is all I get. I feel cramped up, because I know im going to run out of room. In a pm if I have to post 3 times then no one will flip out about "double and triple posting". ( Which I don t really understand, because the posts say different things.) Plus I won t feel cramped so I might make my point more clearly. Anyone that ever whats to pm me to hear about the flaws in the 27 endings in nv that made me upset, please feel free to pm me. I did triple post it on a thread called nv vs fo3 a few days ago. Even that is cramped though.

Because we dont have "cool stuff found "threads, that means that NV doesnt have it? (Unique Weapons, mods)

Obsidian dont (and never) cared about looting and dungeons, they emphasize they works in story,writting and the plot,

In my personal point of view

Interesting story over interesting stuff all the way

But Obsidian could did better, if Bethesda gave them more than just 2 years to develop the game, is the second time that they need to rush they project just for Publishers sake, (KOTOR 2 being the fist infamous example, rushed for 13 months)

Why can't you have both though? Fallout 3 had both, don't care what you say.

Thing is, the original devs were only concerned with story - you fast-travelled and didn't see the "spaces inbetween". Bethesda filled in the spaces inbetween. Then the original devs come back and the spaces inbetween are missing again. It's a different mindset, imo. And yes, I KNOW the desert is going to be more empty than a capital city. But that's a cop-out. It's like saying "we're releasing Fallout:Antartica. Only three bases, and miles of nothingness inbetween... oh and a few RadPenguins". Not good enough, you PUT stuff in to make it interesting. Or else.. why bother?

Yes, but wierd stuff happend in the game. It stopped giving me choices and I fooled the game trying to get the ending I really wanted. It s not a great accomplishment to fool a video game, because then when the game messes up I pay. I m the one with NCR all standing there waiting for a dead president to show. The game dosen t know any better. Its only a game.....I pay the price when the game loses.

Even though I bash nv some. I do like it....... Some people that bash fo3 some say they like it. Just because I bash the things I don t like doesn t mean I don t think it is a good game overall. The music is way better. There r some catchy tunes in nv.