I know they are supposed to be Khajiits, but it doesn't really make sense to me. They're exactly the same as a bosmer or man except one has a bit of fur. If something has the same biological structure as a Bosmer, why would they assume they are Khajiit? They don't even have catlike features or a tail or anything. Is it possible it's just some old Bosmer clan that got accepted into Khaajiit society and they now call them Khajiit?

No, they are either evolutionary descendants of Khajitt or relatives (Dachsunds and Alsatians don't have lot in common either)

There's the fact that they're born from Khajiit, I suppose.
If you're unaware, Khajiit 'type' is based on when they're born. The arrangement of Nirn's two moons plays a significant role for the Khajiit.

This would be better placed in the Lore forum, beeteedub.

how is this related to Skyrim

When the dragons attack, remember they enjoy the taste of cat.

You've never actually seen the Khajiit from Daggerfall, have you? They have tails.

and hey, you know if it's a khajiit because the mother might have been a Alfiq.

When did I say it was?

And okay, if they are all born from the same type of Khajiit depending on the moon phase... Just doesn't make sense to me... Why would a Khajiit look exactly like a mer if they are COMPLETELY different biologically?

Because genetics do not work like real world genetics. Case in point, the race will always be the mom's race, and pretty much inherit 99.9% of her genes, while the father's genes will be very subtle. Also, the Khajiit are related to mer, as they once were mer before Azura wanted a race of cats (I suspected Azura is actually a crazy cat lady). The only difference is that the khajiit's form is determined by the moon, as that was a way for Azura to somehow stabilize the form of some people back when things were going very bonkers during the early days of Mundus.

Magic. :meh:

:lol:, Well you see son, a bunch of Khajitts went to this dark tower......

Yep they definitely have a tail. Had to practically take off all the armor to see it though.

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/7425/tailx.jpg

I hope they make a return in Skyrim. The Khajiit that were in Morrowind were perfect for the whole "slavery" and skooma addicts theme it had. They didn't really fit in Cyrodiil though. Especially with the weird human skeletal structure on a beasts legs. If Bethesda wants a more human like appearance the one's in Daggerfall are the way to go imo.

It's also worth to note that the ohmes/ohmes-raht khajiit have fur up to their necks and wear tattoos on their face.

They're Khajiit because they were born into a Khajiit litter to Khajiit parents. They look like Elves because they were born under a specific moon cycle. That's just how Khajiit are. Don't try to apply real world science to Tamriel. The whole point of Tamriel is that its universal laws are fundamentally based on magicka, and therefore it's only superficially similar to our own world. The underlying mechanics of how everything works are completely different.

Bethesda should just go back to the Morrowind concept art: http://www.imperial-library.info/sites/default/files/races_mw_khajiit.gif

Now that is awesome.

Not entirely accurate, otherwise it'd take a lot longer for the Bretons to come about.

But good enough for government work.

They're really Khajiit.

It'd be nice if we had a clearer picture of that but from what I see I like it. Anything is a step up from what we got in Oblivion honestly. The Suthay-raht should be more bestial. Not the goofy looking kitty faces on a human's body.

Since we have the "sub races" of humans (Bretons, Imperials, Redguards, Nords) in the games we should at least have one or two extra for the Khajiit. Especially the Ohmes-Raht at the very least to clear things up for people who haven't played Daggerfall or Arena. I never got how they're supposed to be the most plentiful of the Khajiit subraces outside their home province... but in Morrowind and Oblivion you don't even see a single one. Okay in Morrowind I can understand. The ones there seem to have been shipped there as slaves. But in Cyrodill and Skyrim the Ohmes-Raht should be the playable ones.

That's a good point. Ohmes-raht do have tails, now, Ohmes do not have tails, as far as I know, that's the main difference between Ohmes and Ohmes-raht.

As to whether they're Khajiit, I'd say the fact that other forms of Khajiit can give birth to them is pretty solid evidence, in general, dogs don't give birth to cats, dogs give birth to other dogs, it works like this here too. The child of a Khajiit is probably going to be a Khajiit, just as you can expect a Dunmer's child to be a Dunmer, generally speaking. They may look pretty different from other types of Khajiit, but that's how it works. What type of Khajiit is born is determined by the cycles of the moons, so a Khajiit that looks like a house-cat could potentially be the mother of an Ohmes, it doesn't make much sense if you go by real life genetics, but the Elder Scrolls isn't real life.



That Khajiit just looks like a cheesy rubber monster from a low budget science-fiction show to me, and doesn't even look very cat like.



I agree completely there, but what can you do? A fantasy setting that has more than one or two races that aren't just humans with pointy ears, funny skin colors or some sort of verticle deficiency is probably too original for the sort of players that developers seem to think make up the majority of the gaming community to comprehend.

I'm just holding out for Elder Scrolls XXVII: Elsweyr, every Khajiit type available for play.
God, I'll be so happy that day in the far, far future on my death bed when I can finally play as an Alfiq.

*sigh*

Someday.

Speaking of which, weren't the Khajiit in Morrowind Suthay-Raht and the Khajiit in Oblivion Suthay? I always had the idea that "Raht" sort of denominated a Khajiit sub-type that was larger and had more bestial features than its namesake subtype. The Khajiit in Oblivion always fit under the Suthay title for me, especially since we know the Khajiit of Morrowind were Suthay-Raht.

I believe they were the same race. A Suthay-Rath is supposed to be only bigger and stronger than the Suthay.

Anything with a -raht in the name will mean it's the larger form of that subspecies. Also, Oblivion's and Morrowind's khajiit are supposed to be suthay-raht

not sure if serious, alfiq are housecats. orcs can step on them.

We don't know that, it might be a logical conclusion, but as far as I know it has never been confirmed.