We like our original fallouts and when we see a look from one we love it same reason I liked the Regulators armor in FO3 it looks like the NCR rangers armor in FO 2

Aonaran nice sig

If my faith in obsidian is well placed then the burned man is in FO NV :shocking: :thumbsup:

My sig is a piece of graffiti one of the gaming journos saw on a wall in their demo. So yeah, pretty much confirmed in game.

It's called taste, or opinion if you prefer. Personally I don't see how the Fallout 2 Enclave armor looks any more silly or over the top than their Fallout 3 power armor; in Fallout 3 they had horns on their helmets for god sakes.

I agree (it looks amazing).

I would think that scaling up the torso might cause more problems than its worth though.
(from personal experience with my own mods)

Who's the burned man?
I think it's a hint towards http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Joshua_Graham
"After a failed attack on Hoover Dam, Caesar had Joshua burned and thrown into the Grand Canyon by the tribals"

In Van Buren it is "The Hanged Man", but based on the graffiti in New Vegas, I can only assume they changed Joshua's nickname to "The Burned Man".

It's uglier than a t-51b assisted armor but I hope its got some good stats.

Or possibly an locked tight abandoned base.


With regards to the Burning Man comments, it could also be a nod to that fire obsessed npc party member from Planescape.

Bad choice in my opinion.
Hanged Man sounds way better than Burned Man.

I wouldn't disagree. Still, I'm mainly just concerned with whether or not his character from Van Buren remains relatively unchanged (since it was already the pinnacle of badassery).

If the Bethstaff guy hadn't come in here, I woulda assumed this was a really good community mod. The background looks EXACTLY the same as Fallout 3.

I hope he's the same.
Can imagine walking into a previously friendly town and to suddenly stand at gunpoint thanks to him.

I thought the same to be honest, Until I looked at more detail at the picture the sky is more blue, the ground looks more vibrant and full of life, looks a lot more like New Vegas from what I've seen to be honest. :tops:

EDIT: Colors just all around look more vibrant instead of drab and depressing like FO3.

yeah yeah burned man.... hanged man.... same thing in my books, it wasn't his name that defined him but how terribly evil and awesome he was.... oh and how he was burnt. If he is in FO NV, maybe you don't find him hanging like in Van Buren so instead hes the burned man.

You have a point. I did not see it on their PA in Fallout 2 and it was not called "Enclave Power Armour." I don't want the logo on it mostly because I don't want the Enclave to be in New Vegas. If they are people that used to be in the Enclave they should have marked out the logo.

If the Enclave is back then why did the Enclave use that crap PA in FO3?

But that's what made him so awesome.
They burned him... He didn't die.
They threw him into the Grand Canyon... He didn't die.
They hanged him... He didn't die.
And you, the PC, have the option to release this evil twisted man upon the wasteland.

If we're going to find him just chilling out in bar I'm gonna be pissed off.

Sounds alot like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grigori_Rasputin.

I'm really happy that we finally get our Advanced Power Armor the way it's supposed to look, but hopefully they'll do a retexture and get rid of that ugly logo. Also, I get that it might be somewhat blemished after all these years, but I really wish that the yellow eyes weren't covered with smudges/scratches, it just doesn't look right.


Yeah, when I first saw it today on NMA I thought it was a mod too. It wasn't in a separate article but just in the corner of the website as a Pic of the Day

If he does happen to be in the game I highly doubt that you'll just find him 'chillin' in the bar, maybe you find him in a shallow grave a la the courier or even better crucified!! at an abandoned legion camp somewhere. And the fact that he was hanged didnt define him if anything it was the burns and bandages, his pure evil and extreme hate for the legion. Being burned then being thrown into the grand canyon and surviving(and were still dont know where the courier would find him) is only slightly less badass than being burned thrown in the grand canyon, hanged then surviving but it still doesnt change who he is or what hes done. Regardless i'm sure the brilliant minds at Obsidian will handle Joshua Graham delicately and thoughtful, that is to say If he ends up in the game.

To be fair, though, the only part of the suit we saw in any great detail in FO2 was the head and shoulders. We certainly wouldn't have seen any logo or anything on the sprite.



Why? Just because they're not necessarily part of the Enclave any more doesn't mean they don't have pride in its symbology.



In theory, the crap devilsuit in FO3 was what "Advanced Power Armor Mark II" always looked like, with the FO2 style suit being the "Advanced Power Armor (Mark I)."

The stats were totally messed up though since the suit was significantly inferior to the T-51b. Obviously the FO3 stats were incorrect.

There was a FO3? Seriously though, when FNV comes out I'm going to pretend that FO3 never existed.

That is fair.



Seeing as how they did not go along with the others out east they must not want anything to do with the Enclave. I really like the idea of the Enclave getting destroyed in FO2. I like that the word "President" becomes a boogeyman use to scare kids, on the West Coast.



Seeing as how Advanced PA was alot better then "Enclave Armour" in Fo3 and was used in large numbers long before FO3. I have a feeling for FO4 we will see the armour styles of FO3 not New Vegas which will svck.

There are alot of people saying that New Vegas is the True FO3 but we can't just forget about FO3. Not like we can with BoS. Would make FO4 very confusing. Chances are it will be on the East Coast and have alot to do with FO3. We can only hope that Beth learns from New Vegas and add all the awesome stuff from it in FO4. Such as hardcoe mode, damage threshold and the PA armour.

I like it
I really like the design of the armor
although I don't think I'm a huge fan of the helmet
.......I guess I've never been a fan of any of the Enclave's helmets

but it seems alot of the older fans enjoy it
from previous Fallouts
so I'll learn to like it eventually

Oh, and thnx to the OP for posting the pic