The old Way of the nordic religion according to the uespwiki includes the following totems :

wolf, snake, moth, owl, whale, bear, fox, and most importantly the dragon

Now to what do those animal totem correspond in terms of the eight Divines?

where does also shor places in regard to all those?

I guess Akatosh = Dragon

what about the rest?

I think the Nords dying and going to the Nord heaven consisting of Nord warriors in halls eating wild boars roasts on large spits and drinking mead is an obvious Scandinavian / Northern European comparison.

Ok but I am talking of the "old ways " of the ancient nords and the modern nord's pantheon corrispondence ....

Given that Ysgramor brought the totem-worship of Atmora with him when he came to Tamriel, and given Alduin's status in Atmora and Nordic myth/religion prior to the corruption it seemed to go through when the Dragon Cult came to Skyrim and became a real dragon bent on overlordship, I would assume that the dragon-totem corresponds to Alduin.

Shor would have his own totem that isn't mentioned, since Shor/Lorkhan is always the missing one.

Wath of the others ...

Shezarr is the Missing God in the Cyrodiilic Pantheon, Shor is the nominal head of the Nordic.

Either way, I'd say Snake.

I came across a forum with all animal totems explanations but It seems I can't post links so here are a quick summary:

I am not sure Ysmir shoudl be included?
Also Akatosh isn't a Dragon too?

The time god is a shattered being, with Alduin being the first incarnation. Akatosh came around Alessia, which was well after Ysgramor's return, and as such, is NOT included in the list. The closest being would be Auriel, but even that aspect is anti-Mundus, as it tried to stop Lorkhan/Shor and is given a giant merrish bias.

This is my list:

Dragon - Alduin/Akatosh

Snake - Shor

Hawk - Kyne

Whale - Tsun

Fox - Stuhn*

Moth - Dibella*

Wolf - Mara*

Bear - Orkey*

Owl - Jhunal*

* Not too sure about...

EDIT: Also, Prometheus, there are a lot of previous threads about this. Might want to check them out to see all the different arguments.

Ok, Jhunal is the moth. The Order of the Ancestor Moth went south, after their patron Jhunal faded out. Ysmir is the Dragon of the North. The Dragon priests were traitors, not mainstream. Stuhn is cunning as a fox. Mara is the Wolf, a la Wolf Queen of Solitude. Dibella is a bear of a woman.

The Owl preys on the Snake. The combination of Bird/Serpent, Shor/Ald, is a Dragon, Ysmir. The owl is Ald.

Clever.

After several people mentioning that the figures represent the priests, not the gods themselves, I'm more willing to believe this now than, say, a few months ago. Still not my first choice though.

I haven't seen a convincing argument to include Ysmir in the Atmoran pantheon yet. He's like, the Cyrodiilic Talos to the Cyrodiilic Shezzar. Or perhaps the rough Nordic equivalent to Redguard HoonDing. Not a god as in Akatosh, but as a GOD-IN-MAN.

Considering that three of the nine figures are female, whether they are gods or priests matters not. The intention is clear: these animals represent female gods.

Most of these barrows were built by the Dragon Worshippers and the Dragon Cult and the Draugr inside were either Worshippers of the Dragons or enslaved Nords forced to worship which means that in their pantheons, as seen in the barrows, Alduin would be it's head and Shor would be the treacgerous snake.

Then the dragon is definitely Ald.

We've had this thread happen over and over for six thousand times.

Ok so to resume some ...

We agreed that :

Akatosh ( the all maker ) = Dragon -----------Time and Creation ----------------
Kyne ( Kynareth )= Hawk -----------Air and wind ---------------- ( Visionary Power,Guardianship, Strength, Decisiveness,Leadership)

Possible


Zenithar ( Zenithar ) = Whale -----------Work commerce trade------- ( Whales travel and represent creativity )
Julianos ( Junhal ) = Owl -----------Wisdom and Logic --------- ( Owl represents wistom and magic)
Arkay (Arkay) = Snake -----------Birth and death ------------- ( Snake is symbol of birth and rebirth cycles )
Lorkhan ( Shor ) (Chief of the Gods ) = Bear --------God uf underworld -------------- ( Bear represents Strenght and hibernation )

Left : ?????

Mara (Handmaiden of Kyne)= wolf--------Nature and love -------------- the murals of the wolf in the nordic halls represent a female figure
Dibella = moth ------ beauty ------
Stendarr ( Stuhn )= fox


Ysmir is just an Demigod Incarnation and shoudl be associated with Talos , Ysmir was the First Dragonborn , Talos was a Dragonborn and so on .... basically a hero associated with Kyne and Shor ...

SO my final association is Like the following also having a corrispondence on the Murals look in the skyrim game ....


Akatosh ( the all maker ) = Dragon
Kyne ( Kynareth )= Hawk
Zenithar ( Zenithar ) = Whale
Julianos ( Junhal ) = Owl
Arkay (Arkay) = Snake
Lorkhan ( Shor ) (Chief of the Gods ) = Bear
Mara (Handmaiden of Kyne)= wolf
Dibella = moth
Stendarr ( Stuhn )= fox

The Cyrodiilic Pantheon doesn't perfectly equate with the Nordic Pantheon so using the animal totems to correspond with the Eight/Nine Divines wouldn't work.

Agreed, best to use the nordic idea of their gods to try and fit in with the totems. Also, this was well before Akatosh, why stop trying to insert that political idol into a pantheon that was before Alessia and the empire.

Moth - Jhunal (Julianos)

Whale - Tsun (Zenithar)

Owl - Orkey (Arkay)

Wolf - Mara (ahem)

Fox - Ysmir

Snake - Dibella (ahem)

Bear - Kyne (Kynareth)

Hawk - Stuhn (Stendarr)

Dragon - Alduin (Akatosh)

Only problem with that is that the Moth is female:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/47857688@N08/6877538419/in/set-72157629321466509/lightbox/

unless Jhunal was a cross-dresser.

Et'ada can change form. It could be that Jhunal was under the pretextual form of a female in retrospect to atmoran views or traditions.

Edit: Now that I've studied the picture, it becomes even more obvious it's intended to be Jhunal. The all seeing eye is a common theme on it.

If that were true, Dibella would be male, Stuhn would be female and Kyne would be male, it's true that the Divines haven't got a six but each one tend to be represented the same way in every Tamrielic culture we know of.

I was going to reply "But Julianos' symbol is the triangle, as presented in Daggerfall, Morrowind, and Oblivion; as you can see http://www.imperial-library.info/content/nine-divines-julianos."

Besides, the "All-Seeing Eye" has always been symbolic of the Mage's Guild.

http://static.skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/images/6538-2-1326957916.jpg

http://download.ultradownloads.com.br/wallpaper/276251_Papel-de-Parede-Meme-Are-You-Kidding-Me_1600x1200.jpg

I'm raging now.

If its a legit connection, then all my * points have to be revised.