Wait, wait, wait. Did is just win something? Holy sh**.

I agree I also tend to learn more towards tactical class based shooters. Also I'm not a fan of random spawns as you can never setup any kind of strategy it basically turns the game into a mindless run and gun because if you try and set up a defensive line ect enemies will begin spawning behind you and flank you. Killzone 2 was prob my favorite FPS to date ahhh how I miss custom matches, clan support, and a symphony of chirping noises as I kill enemies :tongue:

That was directed at the OP. :sweat:

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Ah, well. And what's this 'OP' you speak of?

OP = Original Post

Only when I'm not aloud to shoot or blow things up...chew on that bit for a sec lol.


lol, we're talkin about playing now but I think he's trying to be part of the "Rebel Scum". lol

Are you trying to say that he is "A traitor and a member of the Rebel Alliance!"

Well as i'll be playing the new Operation Flashpoint for the next few weeks thats my realistic shooter fix done for now, will be playing Portal 2 too. Big fan of Operation Flashpoint, just lol'ed at my friends who tried to play it like COD.

Think of me as http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_R3W4D2q8H8U/S8ZvPGaBZWI/AAAAAAAAAvo/uZCyNGAui60/s1600/star-wars-boba-fett.jpg.

Or it could just lead to a worse level when one guy destroys the other in a fashion that some don't think will be possible.



Or any of http://www.bobafettmp.com/bobafett/faq/images/faq-esb-hunterslineup.jpg

I'm more of the cold calculating marksman that is Dengar, won't catch me jetpacking into the side of a barge. :no:


And I do love all the threads that seem to just take shots at those that "disagree" in the same fashion. Some people like certain features, some don't, why are we taking cheap shots at each other over it?

I love this post. +100,000,000 internets for you. I am adding you as a friend, whether you like it or not.

Really? Accessible by telling you where objectives are and where to go...who to shoot? Yeah that's going to help someone with terrible aim trying to kill people in this game. I've been keeping up with Brink for a long time now and you think "accessible" means this game is newb friendly. It's newb friendly in a way that helps people figure out HOW to play but it will be a steep learning curve and a huge skill gap between newbs and good players. You see that's the fundamental difference between Brink and COD type shooting. In COD my 4 year old could press a trigger and potentially kill someone due to OHK especially in "hardcoe" mode LMFAO! In Brink...you earn your kill. Do you understand that?

FYI...I couldn't care less. Although I highly doubt it.

Take a deep breath, put your epeen back in the cargo shorts

Well the nice thing for you is that you have about 34 other games that play the way you like. So good for you. You think it takes more skill to kill someone in a random iron sighted slow moving trigger pull and if you're really skilled your 3rd bullet will get you a double kill using all of that "skill" in OHK games LMAO!

You see IMO OHK games have completely limited creativity and gameplay in shooters. Every game plays the same. I mean you can't kill in more creative ways when it takes 1 shot to do it can you? I'm hoping Brink will impress most skill based gamers who haven't been exposed to the most skillfull games of all time (CS, TFC, RTCW, Quake, Unreal) and therefore influence developers to make more games with shooting and movement styles like those games. You can have COD Galaxies at war 2020 version 2 and the rest of us can play something different.

Did I just get a 10 killstreak by not even shooting a guN? Oh yes I did...sooooooo much skill.

BTW: Guns kill in Brink. You just have to be good enough to make it happen. The game isn't just going to hand it to you because you saw me first and shot in my general direction because you were camping in some corner. If you do that in Brink...you have to be good enough to finish me off. I think that is what scares players like you.

BUMP the most creative most people get in CoD is choosing different windows / corners to sit in every few kills. Most of the campers wouldnt move so it was easy enough to launch grenades wherever they were from out of their line o' sight. Its gotten so badin CoD I can blindfire into about 4 places a map and get a kill 50% of the time bc people camp the same spots

Dude I miss unreal tourney 1.... I also loved playing instagib shock rifle modes tho for [censored] and giggles
Im going to have to find my old copy

Ha replying to my own post...
I can't really blame people in CoD for camping, that playstyle was rewarded quite heavily in those games. I refused to camp bc I found it boring, and sure Id get killed by campers fairly often but 95% of the time theyd only get me once then I could catch them inbetween camp sites for a few kills. But it was the nature of the game, after playing it Im really excited for brink.

It's not so much the size of the round as the impact it imparts on the body. Getting hit center mass by any sort of long-rifle will do more damage to the muscles and bones around the point of impact than, say, a pistol or sub-machine gun. Cracked ribs, torn muscles, ripped organs - it's safe to say you won't be getting up and fighting after a hit like that, so in game terms, one hit kill.

I'm not a rabid proponent of OHK's with long-rifles, most specially after I read the interview that mentioned the developers stance on them: take a big chunk of HP out of your enemy, finish them off with a secondary weapon. However, I will point out the joke of an argument that 'hardcoe' modes are somehow ruining competitive game play - shooting 20+ rounds in center-mass to secure a kill (talking BFBC2, CoD: MW1/2/Black Ops, BF2; NOT BRINK) is ridiculous and counter-intuitive to what is seen in a competitive setting.

Complaining about camping*? Camping is a joke to avoid. If it's a crap map, learn all of the high-travel spots and always check them. If it's a good map where there are too many solid 'camp' spots to learn/check? Don't run straight in to a room and cry when you die to someone in a corner, window, or adjacent building. Talking down camping just shows you're not a good player. I mean, sure, camping on some maps (Black Ops, what a joke game) is derpherp to be successful with, but let's be honest: the reason camping is successful in a game like Black Ops is because of the fairly limited movement around the maps. You can be inventive with jump, crouch, and prone, but good luck actually doing much of anything with a flank.

Guess what'll probably solve that? SMART, and not just SMART, but the freedom implemented in Brink with the inclusion of SMART. As one recent interview stated, SMART isn't as much about giving experienced competitive (read: played in ladders) players a brand new way to move around the game world, but giving less experienced/competitive players an easier time of it while also insuring no player will ever be blocked by a friggen' table or chair.

Brink's going to be good, but OHK/Camping has it's place and the very sentiment of, 'lol hurpadurp SKILLESS CAMPING NOOB WTF ONE SHOT KILL SCRUB" is wildly entertaining and incredibly sophomoric.


*not just referencing the quote, but the OP as well.

Sure bud. I'm sure you will miss getting 4 kills pre-firing a chokepoint with 1 burst while standing still iron sighting and throwing a random nade like you do in COD then getting randomly killed, watch a killcam, respawn/repeat. I'm sorry but I can't stand that game. Sure it takes skill. So does paper toss on iphone. IMO a game with a shooting system like Brink takes MUCH more skill because of the movement and aiming ability required for the kill.

Your point about SMART is only half true. The developers also mention that more experienced players will be able to do MORE with SMART than the newbs that only press the button. With the right timing you can make jumps faster, more accurately so yes even SMART will introduce a skill gap between newbs and good players.

I still stand by my statement that COD "hardcoe" modes have played a huge detrimental role in online FPS gameplay. Most devs model their games after this. I will agree however that the opposite extreme is just as bad. Taking 20 hits to kill someone? When did I EVER say that was good? 5-6 hits to the body and 2 to the head. That is PERFECT. That is BRINK.

I agree that OHK/Camping has its place. That place is just not BRINK and for that I say THANK YOU SD/BETHESDA!!!!!!!!!

Oh yeah..btw, this entire reply was directed at you.

Yeah, I was pretty spot-on with the sophomoric comment. And I only read your OP! Crazy. And just for funsies, I'll direct you to:



You managed to miss all of the highlights and misinterpret the filler. Dromaeosaurs aren't known for condescension: I'm just saying, you blew the response.

@ Original Post: AMEN TO THAT!
@ CoD Lovers: I've fired guns before, CoD is not realistic!
@ Brink Haters: It's a GAME, it isn't supposed to be REALISTIC! It's supposed to be FUN and FAIR!

Well, I know some Marines who think thats a pretty dandy way to measure...but then again, I never served in Iraq so maybe you should ask them? Theyll be on my firends list playing Bad Comapny.

Actually you couldn't be more incorrect. BC2 has 2-3 round kills in hardcoe and theres plenty of creative ways to kill people in that game...developers just need to give us more than guns. Its got UAVs, C4, destructible enviroments, heck, even artillery in the first installment. guess what you'll be doing in brink? Still killing folks with a gun, just jumping around a lot more than CoD, argueably not much more "creative"

You conterdict yourself...first you say theres no creativity cus all I have to do is shoot someone, then you say this where I didn't have to use a gun...make up your mind.


And as I've said several times before...I'm not worried about it too much but I have to ask why you players like you deserve a handicap cus you were stupid enough to run into a exposed killzone? Lower bullet damage is a handicap for unaware players, thats all.

I don't think he was talking real life, nor do I think real life has any place in a discussion about video games.

No? Look at the inspiration for the Battlefield series, specifically the Desert Combat mod from BF:1942. Now look at Battlefield 2 (which more or less sprung from DC). And now look at the past CoD games. Annnd now look at Battlefield 3/SOCOM series/Medal of Honor/Americas Army/et cetera.

While all of those games look like real life, none of them /play/ like real life. Why? Because real life military combat isn't fun. You can't take a bullet to the leg and continue sprinting around. You can't respawn. Not everyone gets a rocket launcher. Putting C4 on your own team's ATV's is liable to get you court-martialed, etc.

There are certain things that you simply have to make unrealistic, otherwise the game would svck.

I appear maladjusted to the level of reading comprehension on these forums

Inspiration =/= EVERY DETAIL MUST BE EXACTLY REALISTIC AND RIGHT! THESE PEOPLE MUST KNOW TRAUMA! See, beyond the introductory comprehension of a first-grader, there is a whole 'nother level with depth and complexity! Where not everything is taken to hyperbole and carelessly constructed as straw-man. To deny the influence from real-life military forces and engagements on (most) recent First Person Shooters, with emphasis on the blockbusters, is ridiculous. Thematically they are similar, in vistas and art direction et cetera. In execution not so much, but the influence is still there within that part of those games - and in the case of SOCOM, Medal of Honor, and MW1, it's still there in a big way.

Assuming I wasn't aware that people don't respawn, and that real life military isn't a joy ride of rainbows, is hilarious.