OMIGod did anyone notice! : The Elder Scrolls Series Discussion

» Sun May 29, 2011 2:00 am

Did anyone notice that Mankar Camoran can wear the Amulet of Kings? Only a person of the Septim bloodline is able to wear it. SO WAT DA HEL!?!? :ahhh:

» Sat May 28, 2011 12:42 pm

Theories are that he is either a distant relative to the Septim's bloodline, or like Sheogorath says: "His realm, his rules!"

» Sun May 29, 2011 2:34 am

There are many, many, many topics on this subject. Do a search, you'll find ALOT.

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:51 am

There are many, many, many topics on this subject. Do a search, you'll find ALOT.

I see, i will now go do that...

» Sat May 28, 2011 5:06 pm

Tiber Septim boned Barenziah. I'm sure he boned many other elves too.

» Sat May 28, 2011 9:54 pm

Never thought about it before... It's weird...

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:33 am

I agree with the planes comment, the different plane probably nullifies the amulets powers and that lets Mankar Cameron wear it. I also remember a post somewhere in the lore section talking about him being some kind of royalty (could possibly related to this but do not know for sure). You could probably find out more about this in the lore section.

» Sat May 28, 2011 7:24 pm

Tiber took Mankar's toy when they were little and now Mankar wants revenge...

» Sat May 28, 2011 12:23 pm

Did anyone notice that Mankar Camoran can wear the Amulet of Kings? Only a person of the Septim bloodline is able to wear it. SO WAT DA HEL!?!? :ahhh:

:clap:

» Sat May 28, 2011 6:06 pm

Hehehe I like how mankor is so F'ed up he would take revenge like that for a toy (if you go along with what storm said)

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:25 pm

I agree with the planes comment, the different plane probably nullifies the amulets powers and that lets Mankar Cameron wear it. I also remember a post somewhere in the lore section talking about him being some kind of royalty (could possibly related to this but do not know for sure). You could probably find out more about this in the lore section.

If you're referring to the alternate plane he created, it doesn't account for the fact that he wears it in the cave before entering his "paradise". The best argument I've heard thus far is that Mankar must be some kind of "royalty" and that the covenant that Akatosh makes with Alessia referring to "Dragon Blood" means anyone who is "royalty" can wear it. That would also explain why someone who is merely a high ranking general in the army can take control of the government, put on the Amulet, and become Emperor...*coughtiberseptimcough* ;^)

Peace, +Petrose

» Sun May 29, 2011 1:06 am

His great great great great great great great granddaddy built White Gold tower or something.

I don't really care, but why yo gotta be dissin' his bling, dawg?

» Sun May 29, 2011 1:06 am

Well, Uriel already has ONE bastard son... :shifty:

» Sun May 29, 2011 12:03 am

Mankar Camoran is a descendant of the Camoran Dynasty.

» Sat May 28, 2011 12:39 pm

which makes him royalty, thus allowing him to wear it.

» Sat May 28, 2011 12:40 pm

Sheogorath says: "His realm, his rules!"

I agree

which makes him royalty, thus allowing him to wear it.

not every royalty is able to wear the amulet of kings.... only decendents of Septim...

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:40 pm

Tiber Septim boned Barenziah. I'm sure he boned many other elves too.

This.

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:35 pm

Or it was just an oversight by Bethesda which they later covered up with some explanation.

» Sun May 29, 2011 1:30 am

What conditions need to be met to be classed a blood descendant? Or better, when do descendants stop becoming blood descendants?

Tiber Septim could have countless thousands (i'm too lazy to do the math) of descendants if he sired just one ancestor.

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:48 am

not every royalty is able to wear the amulet of kings.... only decendents of Septim...

Actually.....no. It dates back to at least St. Alessia, who was around long before the Septim line existed.

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:52 am

Vault_13:

You pore over your dusty tomes of lore. You study ancient genealogies and bloodlines. Look you to blood for truth? There is truth in blood, but it is not the truth that you seek! - http://www.imperial-library.info/tsoo/kotn01a.shtml

Despite the loading screens noxiously spamming of text from the trials of saint Allesia, Mankar Camoran wearing the Amulet was done intentionally. The reason he or anybody can wear the amulet has little to do with blood relations, but rather with their actions (taken in their mythical context).

» Sun May 29, 2011 1:33 am

Mankar Camoran is royalty - his descent from the Camoran dynasty is probably more legitimate than Uriel's descent from Tiber. The stone requires royalty, so when it can choose between the two...

» Sat May 28, 2011 1:35 pm

the amulet of kings can be worn by anyone with royal blood and mankar cameron's ancestor's were the ruler's of valenwood- is valenwood correct?

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:30 am

the amulet of kings can be worn by anyone with royal blood and mankar cameron's ancestor's were the ruler's of valenwood- is valenwood correct?

Valenwood?! Mankar's an Altmer. Wouldn't Summerset Isles make more sense?

» Sun May 29, 2011 12:29 am

Despite the loading screens noxiously spamming of text from the trials of saint Allesia, Mankar Camoran wearing the Amulet was done intentionally. The reason he or anybody can wear the amulet has little to do with blood relations, but rather with their actions (taken in their mythical context).

So, Mankar could wear it because fate hung in the balance, and he was possibly destined to become the Emperor of a new age?

I know in lore, different dynasties like the Reman and Septim ones have recovered and claimed the amulet as their own when they were founded.
And the Elder Scrolls read by the Moth Priests record fate as something fluid with multiple outcomes. So Mankar and Martin are both potential Emperors.