I started online gaming back with the ps2 and most of the online shooters had no type of rank or stat system. This made it f'ing awesome because no one cared about their k/d ratio and the only people that played the game were the ones that loved it. I'm curious as to if there will be any type of stat system or rankings. I know there will be character levels but i'm somewhat afraid of a CoD type community where the only thing people care about is their prestige number and their k/d.

As Brink is an objective based game my idea would be to completely do away with any type stat showing your kills and your deaths.

I'm right there with you. I like the teamwork and the experience. But there's a whole bunch of different types. Some people just play CoD because "OOOH ITS PURDY!" CoD4 had some nice graphics in it's time. And word just got out. It's the iPhone of shooters. But I don't like how people sit online all the time and farm kills nonstop because of the K/D.

But dude rest assured in this regardless if that stat is available in the game. It's doubtful it'll be a forefront focus. And the game seems to be set up in such a balanced way that someone won't be able to be this godly unkillable person. As fast paced as it looks to be it's doubtful that this kind of attitude will be a major factor especially with chat is by default turned off therefore allowing you to focus on the objectives instead of the egos.

There is a Kill & Death Display in the game; however, your position on the list is set by the number of points you accumulate. And most points are awarded for objectives and team-based activities (reviving people, buffing weapons, handing out ammo).

Also Splash Damage have said they won't implement detailed statistics for each player.

There are no leader boards though. It simply shows the stats at the end of the game, if people want to know their entire k/d ratio, they would have to record it themselves, but regardless, the k/d ratio means absolutely little in the game.

So to answer your question in general, do not worry, the game does not present total statistic boards for people to gawk out and try and achieve top position. Instead you will have fun PvP, and the e-sport side will keep their records, but that will simply be W/L records.

thats great. There is simply not enough objective- based games on the market. Of course fps should be about shooting, but k/d whoring is so widespread , that would be so nice to have the game forcing ppl to out- focus from k/d.

I agree. I play Battle Field Bad Company 2 and they also have a similar philosophy. I play Rush mode primarily, I don't know if anyone else plays Rush but when you are on defense you get unlimited lives and when you play offense you get 75 so the amount of time you die counts. When I play offense I'm usually a medic, because when you revive your teammates brings your team life count back up.

Most importantly when the game is over no one can see your individual K/D just the points you have scored. I think stats have turned a lot of people wouldn't have cared in the first place into feverish campers and other such non-sense. The most evident of this problem is objective game in COD where no one is even going for the objective and just framing kills. I was in a room once where a guy who was camping got 43 kills in a match a of demolition and his team lost.

The same thing happens in BFBC2 also. It is especially frustrating when your squad mates are all trying to snipe from 200 meters away from the objective and you are trying to plant a bomb.

I'm also glad that sniping has taken a back seat in this game also.

Like Richard Ham said:

"I'm really sensitive to the dangers of introducing things in the game that people can obsess over, to the point of ruining the game for others, and we're very careful to identify and avoid them. For instance, global leaderboards for stuff like k/d ratios and what not: bad idea, since they disccourage players from taking chances and actually doing what's necessary to help. So bam! Not having them. I know other games do, and they're kind of standard, but screw it, not the right thing for Brink."

"global stat leaderboards for team-based multiplayer = evil."

I think K/D was invented by the CIA to suppress America's middle class youth/young advlts

(if you don't know what i'm talking about, read up on your conspiracies)

Theres another quote out there (pretty sure its also Richard Ham) that says they considered keeping track of only W/L, but they didn't want players to stack the teams or switch sides just to improve that stat, so its not there either.

It's a good things. I really like to switch to the weaker team (Seeking a form of challenge) but it's dumb if you get "penalized" in KDR. (Don't understand me the wrong way, in objective type games I couldn't care less about KDR, in games where it's all about KD, I like to stay around 1.)

I don't know about suppress, they wouldn't really need to since in a couple of years WWIII is going to be fought with epeens, they'll just kill each other.

But that would turn into epeen highlander, since beating someone would make your epeen bigger. THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE! ...and I'm not sure I'm prepared to see what happens when there is only one, with a mega epeen.

I like challenges but I have a bit of a problem when playing with idiots.

After an almost countless number of years with no other epeens to feed on, it would become so big it would eventually implode, creating an ever growing black hole which would eventually consume the entire universe and destroy the space time continuum.


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I tend to enjoy myself more when playing with "newbs". You can play awfull without getting accused of bringing the team down. I also tend to rush and raise my adrenaline levels to the critical point of heart failure. Nothing as satisfying as getting completely dominated when it comes to killing, but still being able to win the map because you did the objective while they were busy getting kills.

Newbs are ok I can work with them and they learn (hopefully). I have had the displeasure of playing with no skill or common sense. Imagine dropping into a game and there are 5 operatives. Same thing when jumping into TF2 with snipers or spies.

What do you mean you don't care how great my Kraft Dinner is?!

I care even less about that!

Heresy! I here by banished you from thy Brinkith forums! Be gone! Before I begin to snack once more!

About the adrenaline and all, have you ever played Gears of War 2 online? My heart have never beaten that fast when playing a game

I think I can beat that with a hardcoe S&D in MW2 when I was the only one alive against 7 people. Also, I was not really good at MW2 then. I bet I'd have died of a hear attack if I wouldn't have been killed within seconds.

Eh, Search and Destroy in Modern Warfare 2 never made my heart beat that fast, not even as the last man standing, but it sure pumped faster than usual.

Guess it's different from person to person