:shakehead: What if Skyrim will be too big for its own good? Like i read game-informers cover of skyrim and all about the adaptive AI and stuff that with the whole metaphor of the shop-keep. There making amazing things and all but are they really uppers or downers...idk i guess i have to wait till it comes out.

Describe how they could be downers, please.

So you are worried it will be to good? I'm confused...

Unless youve got a whole lot of Phobias.
You should bliviongate:

The only way I could see "being too big" as a bad thing is if they don't take the time to flesh it out and bring it to life, but come on, this is the bethesda. everything will be ok

Cool story, bro? :shrug:

I'm sorry but what?

You are worried about nothing.

please elaborate

Are you saying that if its too big then it will lack detail?

and once again another pointless topic taking up space in the forum.....

One fear, I have many... not really heavy fears, but small worries.
All I can say is that these features they're adding are possible steps to what RPG's were before the markets fell out of them a few years back.
If they add great story, a game world that makes people just want to look and explore, and clean up the faults from Oblivion the game will do this.
If they add the features such as Radient AI, and they make it work even well at best it'll advance RPG's to the next step.
If they add both and it runs perfectly it'll be a mass market coup, a heavy rain for nerds and fantasists on all systems.

If they sell it up and are just using even small amounts of hype.
Deliver an Oblivion MK2 then it's a quick heafty profit and back to the dark ages.

Radiant AI in Oblivion was overhyped but worked well enough to make npc seems more real, npc has daily schedules, love the group coming back from the vineyards in Skingrad every day. Npc walk into shops, stop to talk with each other on the street hang out in bars.

This will be significantly expanded in Skyrim. No I don't expect a working economy "children of the nile had it" but it was a city builder. However in a mining town many people will go to the mine in the morning and mine, you can buy ore of the mine owner or mine it yourself.

The radiant story is simply a quest scrambler, to start the quest the quest giver has to trust you, you are then sent to a dungeon or bandit camp who fit your level, then done you are given a reward who fit the npc who gives the quest and your level.
As I understand quest items are not level scaled like in Oblivion, however many are selected from a levelled list of unique items who fit the difficulty of the quest. So you do a quest for a fighter you get a named sword, a easy low level dungeon gives you a low level svord. A mage might give you an enchanted robe.

yeah bro i sure hope we don't run out of room for WHERES MY SPEARS and THE WATER LOOKS LIKE POOP

are you worried about it being too AMBITIOUS? Bethesda is a lot more ambitious than your average western studio but they're also intelligent enough to understand their limits. Skyrim won't turn out like Boiling Point or Precursors or whatever. honestly a good chunk of what they've announced is already technically possible in Oblivion if people would make the animations for them, and the rest just seems to be ideas inspired by Daggerfall and Arx Fatalis/Dark Messiah.

haha, I remember the thread that asked what that statement meant....otherwise I'd be like whaaaa?

But to this thread I say whaaaaa? The bigger the better in the Elder Scrolls world because I am confident Beth will make it great no-matter the size the map/quests/plot is.

I lol'd. :thumbsup:

*sigh* One of these days... :swear:

One game didn't live up to the impossible hype most of you guys gave it so your worried. Thats pretty much the reason behind all the worrying, believe it or not.

Hey, Doc! I'm having trouble with my metaphors. What would you prescribe; uppers or downers?

Why can't they make to discussion boards for TESV, one for complainers and one for people who wanna talk about the game and for info?

My fear is that unarmed won't have skills or perks.

it's a completely justified worry, though. i mean with most developers you get THE NEXT GAME WILL HAVE A FEW CHANGES AND MAYBE BETTER GRAPHICS AND SOME OTHER STUFF and they just polish their existing formula and once in a while add a new thing. with Bethesda you get WELL THIS TIME WE'RE ADDING A TON OF NEW [censored] AND COMPLETELY OVERHAULING EVERY SINGLE THING YOU KNEW AND LOVED ABOUT THE PREVIOUS GAME BECAUSE WE WANT TO because pretty much they're just [censored] crazy.

it has less to do with HYPE and more to do with "okay so you're doing THIS and THIS and that's gone and that's different and and and um okay what are you even doing @_@". people get scared because they don't know if Bethesda can actually pull off what they're talking about and they wonder why they couldn't've just built off the pre-existing game and changed a few things.

But they have done this with every Elder Scrolls game

Yes, but theyve also Made every Elder Scrolls game.
Theyve worked on this a long time. And each game gets better in more ways then others.
Its ok. Have Faith. This is Bethesda. Maker of Morrowind and the Planes of Oblivion.
And maybe Redguard..... :whistling:

Yeah, I think you read me wrong. I was telling that guy they overhaul everything(kinda) for new TES games. I have faith

yeah and look at how many people [censored]ed about Oblivion after Morrowind after having started playing the game with Morrowind. they didn't understand that this is pretty much just what Bethesda does.

this time around it's people who started with Oblivion, with Morrowpals torn between "it svcks already cos Oblivion hurr hurr" and "i don't even know anymore". let them experience the joy that is the development cycle of a Bethesda title.

Oh, my bad, :sweat:
You just go through this forum now days, trying to convert the unbelievers, and it becomes a mentality.
My apologies.