So basically, you want it to be easier and include more camping so that you can rack up more kills?.. I mean outside of that, I see no reason to make the gameplay simpler so that you can focus on one thing. Should we also remove buttons on the controller.. Ahh I see, SMART should shoot for you that way you can watch as the game plays itself. Haha seriously though, sorry to be harsh, but I see no reason to make the game simpler. The more this is encouraged, the less devs will step outside of the box to make exciting games to play. Look at COD for example. Its been the same game for over a decade, and because a couple years ago they switched from world war 2 to modern times, its supposed the be this new and exciting game the likes of which we have never seen before?.. cmon people.

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One thing I also wanted to mention.. if your looking to be able to focus on gametypes and maps, that is available, just in a different sense. You can focus on gametype sets... there are a number of different combinations, you can specialize on that certain combination as well as specialize on certain maps. The variants are simply more complex.

Aight, everyone..

The campaign contains MULTIPLE OBJECTIVE GAME MODES like Capture the Flag, Attack/Defense, Escort

The Security on Container City has to take a suitcase back to the start of the map in the end, so.. Yeah, can we count this as capture the flag?

From what I understand, both sides will have the same amount of the same primary map objectives, since there are 8 maps from what we know, they both got 4 each to well.. Have the same stuff on but with a different terrain and all

There are myriads of TDM / FFA games out there. The reason i feel Brink will keep me hugging my Mouse and Keyboard is because it steps away from that.
There is not "one" game mode in Brink from what i could gather from videos and comments. There is variety and you can at any time stray from the path to do missions or go rampage in certain situations.

If you get TDM/FFA, the next few steps are:

- We demand K/D stat tracking omgroxxorl33t11!!!
- People will, on a constant basis, disregard objectives and play ANY mode like TDM because they simply do not care about others and only play for their own stats.
(that is observable in practically any game with various modes)
- People will start going for objectives but then retreat and resort to corner camping/roof sniping from that remote corner as soon as their k/d starts dropping

If they make brand new modes/maps, sign me up. But making a new movement system, an innovational blend of different game types to then go along and sour it all with the same old crap....no thanks

I agree what was mentioned above as we have all these gamemodes put into 1 mode... however if they split them people can enjoy focusing on 1 objective and I believe will put the game at a much faster pace as everyone will focus on one thing! We never know they might be able to add things after the game is released! take halo for example it added so many gametypes during its life that's what made bungie a great Dev team as they listened to the players and supported the game through it all! If Brink becomes like that and listens and expands as the games out! IT WILL BE HUGE

So because we want classic game modes that automatically means all we're interested in is racking up kills?

Are your feelings hurt by me requesting a TDM or CTF? Did you get spanked in COD to make you hate it? Simpler? Who said anything about making the game more simple? I think it will be a challenge anyway with or without objectives. This game is built for a CTF-esque gametype. I would love a brand new gametype. Like a hot potato gametype or something I dont know. Get fresh!

Taking a paragraph like that and trying to come to such a simple conclusion is pure ignorance. My point is that these classic modes are there in a different and more challenging way. Every game does not need be the same with better graphics. My point is that SD's take on the classic's is far superior and more intersting to play. And unless you've played one of them before, I feel that it is wrong to say you like one over the other immediately without ever trying it.

Yes, so very much I want to cry at night. Why not challenge me in a real man's game like CS RTCW or H1, then you can trash me all you want. Your beloved TDM was invented well before your precious COD. But back in the day we called it elimination, and while it can be fun, with the new dynamic of this game, I do not belive it would work to well. Certain classes would no longer have as useful of a roll, and the parkour wouldn't be as important as staying alive. Overall, the objective experience is more enjoyable for this type of game, and watering it down with more game modes such as this will split the player base amongst these modes ultimately reducing the longevity of the game.

You can make modes like TDM work in Brink by making them separate (as in "optional," as in "you never have to play it if you don't want to.") and make it so that you get barely a fraction of the points you'd get if you were playing the main game. Add in the fact that there's no K/D stat tracking and there's no way it could turn Brink into a "competitive" game.

Next just alter the maps a bit and you're golden. Every class can still be useful. Medics can still heal, soldiers can still give out ammo, and engineers can still build and repair stuff. Operative are the only problem I see. One solution I can see is to make it so that the only way to get radar is to have operative hack little satellites around the map. I'm sure there are other solutions. Nothing a few hours brainstorming couldn't help.

I like Brinks idea of a changing Battlefield which is pretty much Killzones "warzone" mode. But I think along with that they should at very minimum include a team deathmtch mode. I know this game is all about team-work but how much are they going to force it as opposed suggest it?

You didn't just take the white glove and slap me in the face saying you want a challenge in Halo 1. XBConnect!!! I've been on first person shooters since Duke Nukem. Goldeneye 007 I was untouchable. Tribes I was unstoppable. COD is just the current "king" so Chill Out (pun intended). I'm just saying why not spice it up with some fresh gametypes.

By the way, you don't want to meet my TSK.

I voted yes, but this is accurate, as well. The Stopwatch Mode is going to be crazy.

TDM isn't "fresh".

So, you say that the FPS genre needs something 'fresh,' but you create a topic advocating team deathmatch in Brink? Does anyone else see a contradiction?

Haha, just moved in so pm me your tag and once I'm setup for it, its on. I think my tag was serpico or serpico06 or something like that. Been a while. I agree with the spice it up, which is why I don't want the old. I want the new, which is what it looks like their brining... or at least a new take on the old. Also, you forgot to mention perfect dark, wolf3d and marathon.

I like TDM, But you are obviously picking and choosing my words to make your point seem "valid".

Its ok, I won't hold it against you... Fox news does it all the time

Aight, let's stop with the [censored]ting on Team Deathmatch, it's a legit game type some people love and adore

But to fit it into BRINK as it's own game type, with killing only and all you'd have to make new maps or change the existing ones

The way it is now with the campaign/MP containing many different game modes is fine and dandy the way it is and sounds

This.

Will do... Perfect Dark is my all time fav... wolf3d was the sh**, but I never played marathon.

They can love and adore it all they want. But why not adore it in one of the games, out of millions, that has it. Brink wasn't made for the campfest that's FFA/TDM.

I doubt with the S.M.A.R.T. system that people will camp. In objective games people camp all the time.

In every CoD camping is rampant in FFA/TDM. In objective based game modes...not so much. (Based on personal observation, unless, it's the Headquarters game mode). Implementing a K/D ratio, which would be needed to make FFA/TDM worth something, makes camping even more prevalent.

I voted no, for the following reasons:

My understanding is that Brink combines lots of different game mods into each mission, so there may be a capture the item situation followed by a destruction type objective, followed by a hacking objective the emphasis being on team based objectives utilising each class to complete an overall goal. Now if we were to distil it down to a simple deathmatch goal, where the objective was simply to rack up the kills, certain class abilities become rather mute. What is the point of the medic if you're playing FFA? Why the need to throw out ammo as a soldier? It is less of an issue in team deathmatch, but it is still there to some extent. The class and ability system in Brink tends towards objective based game modes, take away the objectives and the whole game loses a part of its identity.

The other reason I said no is in effect there are still large portions of deathmatch gameplay in there. Supposing our primary objective is to repair something, a job only an engineer can do. If I'm the engineer attempting to fulfil the objective and you're a soldier, the only thing you can do to help me is kill everything in sight. You can't complete the primary objective as a soldier, so you're job is to hold the enemy off so that I can complete the task and advance through the mission. Although I've yet to play the game I would assume not every class is going to have an objective in every mission, so there may be whole missions where there's no need to destroy something as a primary objective, so in those missions the soldiers on the field are there specifically to kill the enemy (and throw some ammo around), making that mission, essentially, a team deathmatch game for the soldier, with a map that opens up as your team mates fulfil the primary objectives.

By the way, Hi, I'm new here. =)

Sometimes people want to just jump on a kill things. Is it that hard for Brink to accomadate for them?

There's no need to "pick and choose" your words. You're digging a hole all yourself.












The fact you advocate putting in game modes which are as old as the genre itself, while at the same time saying you want something "Fresh" is, in itself, contradictory. Brink is a team-based, class shooter with different body types, weapons, and a movement system. It combines single player campaign with a multiplayer experience. How much more "Fresh" do you want?

I'm not sure where the Fox news comment came from; maybe it was just your attempt at sounding knowledgeable. Don't pull the news media card, because It's something I am ready and loaded to discuss.