One in a million

Post » Wed Jul 06, 2011 5:26 pm

After you kill House in game in his obituary he notes
The probability of an equally capable figure emerging from the current human population to lead mankind to a future of equivalent quality is less than 0.000112% by objective measures too complex to detail in this obituary.

On first glance that's a very low figure but in reality it's not that bad. Given that 1 percent = 1 in a hundred simply doing the math reveals it's a one in a million chance that another human rises to lead humanity. Given the NCR's population is somewhere over a million and that the courier could probably be desricbed as one of thoses one in million types, I'd say things are going to be better than most would expect.
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Post » Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:55 pm

I've got nothing to say, but good remark
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Post » Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:34 am

After you kill House in game in his obituary he notes

On first glance that's a very low figure but in reality it's not that bad. Given that 1 percent = 1 in a hundred simply doing the math reveals it's a one in a million chance that another human rises to lead humanity. Given the NCR's population is somewhere over a million and that the courier could probably be desricbed as one of thoses one in million types, I'd say things are going to be better than most would expect.

Over a million? I was under the assumption it was like 600,000, but I can't seem to find the statistic at the moment. And "A tragedy has befallen all mankind" says that the chance that anyone will ever be born with the capabilities of house is .000112. That's a simple statistic, it means that all things considered, there is simply a .0112% chance that a human being with the qualifications of house will be born in the wasteland. Those are not good odds.

I think you're misinterpreting statistics. A one in a million chance that a child will ever be born who meets certain qualifications does not guarantee that such a child will be born after one million children. It means that given the circumstances, there is only a one million chance such a child will be born.
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Post » Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:13 am

You can pretty much ignore Houses obituary anyway, he's the one that wrote it and let's just say he got a little bit carried away with it.
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Post » Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:53 pm

You can pretty much ignore Houses obituary anyway, he's the one that wrote it and let's just say he got a little bit carried away with it.

It doesn't say anything about being written by Mr. House himself in the game. In fact, the note states "Will revise and finish this up later. Have set the age at death to update automatically," which leads me to most likely believe that someone else wrote it, as House would not be forwarding his own obituary to someone to revise. House probably didn't expect his death anyway, so it would be fair to assume that he would not write an obituary, much less not for himself.
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Over a million? I was under the assumption it was like 600,000, but I can't seem to find the statistic at the moment. And "A tragedy has befallen all mankind" says that the chance that anyone will ever be born with the capabilities of house is .000112. That's a simple statistic, it means that all things considered, there is simply a .0112% chance that a human being with the qualifications of house will be born in the wasteland. Those are not good odds.

I think you're misinterpreting statistics. A one in a million chance that a child will ever be born who meets certain qualifications does not guarantee that such a child will be born after one million children. It means that given the circumstances, there is only a one million chance such a child will be born.

I fully understand that it's not guarnetted that after you're one million child you win the prize of a Bill Gates, or Howard Hughes but what that statstic reveals is that history goes on. Caeser shows, Kimball shows, the couriuer shows and even House shows that humanity is greater than the sum of it's parts. That even if one of us dies things will still go on and can still get better.
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Post » Wed Jul 06, 2011 6:55 pm

It doesn't say anything about being written by Mr. House himself in the game. In fact, the note states "Will revise and finish this up later. Have set the age at death to update automatically," which leads me to most likely believe that someone else wrote it, as House would not be forwarding his own obituary to someone to revise. House probably didn't expect his death anyway, so it would be fair to assume that he would not write an obituary, much less not for himself.


Set the age of death to update automatically probably means that when he dies his computer automatically fills it in and the distributes it. Pretty sure he wrote it too btw, he says something in it about "wondering is those savages will even be able too read it," the way its worded sounds just like something he would say.
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Post » Wed Jul 06, 2011 6:44 pm

I fully understand that it's not guarnetted that after you're one million child you win the prize of a Bill Gates, or Howard Hughes but what that statstic reveals is that history goes on. Caeser shows, Kimball shows, the couriuer shows and even House shows that humanity is greater than the sum of it's parts. That even if one of us dies things will still go on and can still get better.

No, no. I don't think you get it. a .000112% (miswrote it the second time) chance means that population and future births have already been taken into account (as stated in obituary by the statement "[this statistic produced] by objective measures too complex to detail in this obituary". It's an all inclusive statistic. What you are thinking of, would be something along the lines of "only .000122 of every 100 children will ever 'lead civilization into a future of equivalent quality.'" Such a statistic is at its core completely different from the one outlined in the obituary, get it?
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Post » Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:05 pm

Set the age of death to update automatically probably means that when he dies his computer automatically fills it in and the distributes it. Pretty sure he wrote it too btw, he says something in it about "wondering is those savages will even be able too read it," the way its worded sounds just like something he would say.

Yes, and Caesar comments on his obituary saying "Guess he had a high oppinion on himself", which also implies House wrote it.
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Post » Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:07 am

Just the writing of the obituary reminded me of some sour man like Daniel Agincourt probably wrote it. I was under the assumption that someone else wrote it because it refers to "Mr.House" and there is never any 1st person wording. The harshness used to describe people doesn't sound like House.
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Post » Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:40 am

Just the writing of the obituary reminded me of some sour man like Daniel Agincourt probably wrote it. I was under the assumption that someone else wrote it because it refers to "Mr.House" and there is never any 1st person wording. The harshness used to describe people doesn't sound like House.



Yeah it does. I support House, but don't sugar-coat it: he's a cold-hearted snot who's only focused on results, viewing people as pawns and employees rather than actual people, the only thing keeping him from treating them like absolute trash being that he does understand basic human rights and needs. If it weren't for his comments about his hate for the slavery of Caesar's Legion, about how the BoS should seek out medicine and prosthetics and not just weapons, and the lines Mr. House has his Securitrons programmed to recite if they're talking to a murderer, I would go so far as to say he's a psychopath; a man who ONLY views people as tools and has no sympathy or empathy for them.

Having said that, ever told him you're not giving him the Platinum chip when you have it in your hands? He kinda loses his cool. He definitely wrote that himself. On the flip side though, give the man credit: House has never really said anything that suggests he's bias. He may be full of himself but I bet the "calculation" shown there is legit.
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Yeah it does. I support House, but don't sugar-coat it: he's a cold-hearted snot who's only focused on results, viewing people as pawns and employees rather than actual people, the only thing keeping him from treating them like absolute trash being that he does understand basic human rights and needs. If it weren't for his comments about his hate for the slavery of Caesar's Legion, about how the BoS should seek out medicine and prosthetics and not just weapons, and the lines Mr. House has his Securitrons programmed to recite if they're talking to a murderer, I would go so far as to say he's a psychopath; a man who ONLY views people as tools and has no sympathy or empathy for them.

Having said that, ever told him you're not giving him the Platinum chip when you have it in your hands? He kinda loses his cool. He definitely wrote that himself. On the flip side though, give the man credit: House has never really said anything that suggests he's bias. He may be full of himself but I bet the "calculation" shown there is legit.


Out of curiosity what do his securitrons say when they're talking to a murder?
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Post » Thu Jul 07, 2011 1:16 am

Yeah it does. I support House, but don't sugar-coat it: he's a cold-hearted snot who's only focused on results, viewing people as pawns and employees rather than actual people, the only thing keeping him from treating them like absolute trash being that he does understand basic human rights and needs. If it weren't for his comments about his hate for the slavery of Caesar's Legion, about how the BoS should seek out medicine and prosthetics and not just weapons, and the lines Mr. House has his Securitrons programmed to recite if they're talking to a murderer, I would go so far as to say he's a psychopath; a man who ONLY views people as tools and has no sympathy or empathy for them.

Having said that, ever told him you're not giving him the Platinum chip when you have it in your hands? He kinda loses his cool. He definitely wrote that himself. On the flip side though, give the man credit: House has never really said anything that suggests he's bias. He may be full of himself but I bet the "calculation" shown there is legit.



I know everybody has dark thoughts in their minds, but it doesn't sound like something House would write in his obituary. Sure, it is unfinished however I don't think anybody would be happy reading that obituary. I think that would be something House would write in his private journal stashed away in the Securitron Vault.
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Post » Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:39 am

I know everybody has dark thoughts in their minds, but it doesn't sound like something House would write in his obituary. Sure, it is unfinished however I don't think anybody would be happy reading that obituary. I think that would be something House would write in his private journal stashed away in the Securitron Vault.


House was almost prepared for any outcome. Remember the only thing that stopped him getting the Platinum Chip in time back in 2077 was he misjudged when the War would start: an entirely human factor. Probably after that he realized that the only thing he couldn't entirely predict was humans, hence he probably wrote/had written that obituary in the unlikely, but entirely possible event that he died.
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Post » Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:38 pm

No, no. I don't think you get it. a .000112% (miswrote it the second time) chance means that population and future births have already been taken into account (as stated in obituary by the statement "[this statistic produced] by objective measures too complex to detail in this obituary". It's an all inclusive statistic. What you are thinking of, would be something along the lines of "only .000122 of every 100 children will ever 'lead civilization into a future of equivalent quality.'" Such a statistic is at its core completely different from the one outlined in the obituary, get it?

I understand what you are saying about it. I find it highly unlikely that that view point is realstic due to the fact that so many extraordinary individuals live in a region (The Southwest) that can't have more than 1.5 million people. The Tandis, Couriers, Vault Dwellers, Kimballs, Caesers, Grahams, Lanius', House's, Hanlons's of the world that arguabiliy meet or beat House's accomplishments given their circumstances. That said there are only two things
A. It's from a view of 1 out of every Million will be of the same level or greater than House
B. It's simply wrong due to the bias of House and lies in the obituary (How he stopped all 77 warheads when he only stopped 68) and the probablity he massively increased the amount by which he's great in comparison to others.
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Post » Wed Jul 06, 2011 5:39 pm

No that's the possibility of a single person like him will rise.

What it's really saying is that that's the probability of a single person in the world to be like him, it's a one in a million chance in a one in a few million chance, that's not good.
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Post » Wed Jul 06, 2011 8:01 pm

Out of curiosity what do his securitrons say when they're talking to a murder?



If you

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frame Heck Gunderson, making it look like he killed his son, you can take a bloody sheet or something to a Securitron as evidence to report him, and the Securitron will follow you in the Strip. Once the Securitron is inside, it'll proceed to talk to Heck Gunderson, saying he's been found guilty of murder, and that "as a murderer, you should be feeling feelings of shame, guilt, depression and remorse. You will want to seek psychological treatment immediately, so that you can be rehabilitated." Afterwards he says "I hope this has at least taught you a valuable lesson about the precious value of every human life." Not exact, but along those lines. Heck continually denies and resists, then pulls his gun and gets shot down. The Securitron leaves the casino after warning all the gamblers to keep away from the dead body, saying dead bodies are known to help spread disease.


I know everybody has dark thoughts in their minds, but it doesn't sound like something House would write in his obituary. Sure, it is unfinished however I don't think anybody would be happy reading that obituary. I think that would be something House would write in his private journal stashed away in the Securitron Vault.


Who on EARTH would write it then? No one has access to House's databanks. The only person that has talked to House "directly" within the past 200 years is Benny, and again, he didn't have access to House's databanks, so he couldn't've written it.
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Post » Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:48 pm

If you

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frame Heck Gunderson, making it look like he killed his son, you can take a bloody sheet or something to a Securitron as evidence to report him, and the Securitron will follow you in the Strip. Once the Securitron is inside, it'll proceed to talk to Heck Gunderson, saying he's been found guilty of murder, and that "as a murderer, you should be feeling feelings of shame, guilt, depression and remorse. You will want to seek psychological treatment immediately, so that you can be rehabilitated." Afterwards he says "I hope this has at least taught you a valuable lesson about the precious value of every human life." Not exact, but along those lines. Heck continually denies and resists, then pulls his gun and gets shot down. The Securitron leaves the casino after warning all the gamblers to keep away from the dead body, saying dead bodies are known to help spread disease.




Who on EARTH would write it then? No one has access to House's databanks. The only person that has talked to House "directly" within the past 200 years is Benny, and again, he didn't have access to House's databanks, so he couldn't've written it.

What I found funny of the Heck Gunderson case was the fact that he didn't receive a trial...just sayin'
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Post » Wed Jul 06, 2011 4:09 pm

After you kill House in game in his obituary he notes

On first glance that's a very low figure but in reality it's not that bad. Given that 1 percent = 1 in a hundred simply doing the math reveals it's a one in a million chance that another human rises to lead humanity. Given the NCR's population is somewhere over a million and that the courier could probably be desricbed as one of thoses one in million types, I'd say things are going to be better than most would expect.


Don't take anything in that obituary at face value. :P
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Post » Wed Jul 06, 2011 5:13 pm

What I found funny of the Heck Gunderson case was the fact that he didn't receive a trial...just sayin'



Yeah I have to agree there. Looked it up and I couldn't remember, but Heck does resist and pull a gun on the securitron, leading to him getting shot. The Securitron might've mentioned trying to find him psychological help or something, can't remember. I just remember it was ridiculously peaceful and humane considering the Securitron was supposed to be talking to a murder. Though somehow I get the sense that part of the reason it went down like it did is because going back to the quest giver and saying "I did it, he got a citation to go to court next Thursday evening!" wouldn't have the same effect as saying "I got him killed."


Here's a video showing how a Securitron deals with a murderer, for anyone that's curious. The Securitron comes in at 16:00: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5kREBCnJXQ
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Post » Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:40 am

Yeah he resist hell the robot called him a murderer and by extenison was basically saying he killed his own son. The robot had already found him guilty before the trial
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