One quick question Obsidian : Fallout: New Vegas

» Wed Oct 05, 2011 6:53 am

How are all of these bugs being discovered if gamers aren't having problems? Maybe New Vegas sold so many copies because theres a name like "Fallout", "Bethesda", etc on the game like how people buy other games because of their name and not actual gameplay like "Call of Duty", and "Activision". The game is $20 so its a bargin to be bought now. Overwhelmingly postive reviews? Wheres the negative ones? Leaving those out? I know Obsidian didn't make the game to have problems, but they're forgeting the game and not patching the issues they have now. They are moving on to new projects. I had a better experience with Fallout 3, maybe a CD thing, not sure. How is it embarrassing? Care to explain? How does monetary value have to deal with anything on game playback and opinion? Please explain. BTW only made the other accounts to get the achievements.

Also, inaccurate generalization: Go look at The Vault: Fallout wiki and click the bugs section. Its pretty sad when theres a list of bugs of a full game longer than The Consitution. Or to put that in a more graspable view, BF3 BETA, which if any one played it, has less bugs than this game.

If what you got from my post was "New Vegas isn't buggy" then you missed the point. New Vegas is a buggy, unpolished game. It is not as unplayable for most people as it is for you which was the inaccurate generalization you were making but it is buggy. Here's the kicker: so was Fallout 3. The fact that you apparently had minimal issues with it doesn't change the fact that some people, such as me, had problems as severe as the ones you experienced with New Vegas. Get it?

» Wed Oct 05, 2011 12:38 pm

I disliked NV and I have to tell you, you are whinning.

Sorry to say but Bethesda was the one in charge of bug testing (if what I have heard is correct) so blame them and not Obsidian, they're the ones who did no give them much time.

I am also sorry to say but nobody on these forums is going to tell you differently than the people here have, this is the NV Forums, not the NV Problem Forums so the people here dislike it.

And here is the greatest thing I can tell you, my Level 30 save in F3 and my level 30 save in NV had to get corrupted for me to come up with this secret to protecting your saves:
Double Save!

All you have to do is save at the exact same area twice in a row.

Sure it takes a little longer but it pays off when one corrupts and the other doesn't (has happened to me three times now, I feel great right afterwards!)

Again, this was brought up as "whining". How is it? I'm explaining points with valied facts. I'm not basing this off of just my experiences.

Both Obsidian and Bethesda worked on bugs, Bethesda went to Skyrim and Obsidian went to something else.

The title says, "General Discussion" which can have like and dislike opinions.

Again, never had problems in FO3 but it could be a CD thing.

I take every precaution to avoid corrupt saves, even what you just said above.

» Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:13 am

I'd also like to point out that saying a game is "bad" or "good" is an opinion and not a fact. Many people enjoyed the game, despite any bugs they may have had, and others didn't. So.

/obligatoryopinionvsfactpost

» Wed Oct 05, 2011 4:08 pm

Hero Llama, if you weren't asking a question then why did you name the thread "One quick question Obsidian"

» Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:23 am

If what you got from my post was "New Vegas isn't buggy" then you missed the point. New Vegas is a buggy, unpolished game. It is not as unplayable for most people as it is for you which was the inaccurate generalization you were making but it is buggy. Here's the kicker: so was Fallout 3. The fact that you apparently had minimal issues with it doesn't change the fact that some people, such as me, had problems as severe as the ones you experienced with New Vegas. Get it?

I understood that both games were glitching and buggy, but what I'm saying is that there a more game rendering bugs and glitches in NV than in 3, which seems like I got the bad end of the stick in NV. Also OP said, "This is just my opinion". But there are others aswell.

» Wed Oct 05, 2011 3:50 am

Hero Llama, if you weren't asking a question then why did you name the thread "One quick question Obsidian"

Its a figure of speech
http://www.answers.com/topic/figure-of-speech
hopes this helps.

» Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:48 pm

I'd also like to point out that saying a game is "bad" or "good" is an opinion and not a fact. Many people enjoyed the game, despite any bugs they may have had, and others didn't. So.

/obligatoryopinionvsfactpost

I acknowledge the thing about good and bad games, but I did have a overwell good time with the game. It just gets frustrating having to make new saves while I'm trying to prevent corrupt saves.

» Wed Oct 05, 2011 7:40 pm

What I don't get is, if I have a game that keeps getting corrupt saves, I look up if this is common. If not, then I assume I have a bad copy or something's wrong with my system. I've heard of buggy games even after the patches (most common on X-box, least common on PC), but not corrupt save issues.

I get being frustrated that you got a [censored] copy, but I don't understand why you'd KEEP playing it if all your saves corrupt instead of trying to get a new copy or play it on a different system.

» Wed Oct 05, 2011 7:20 am

OP, I don't like your condescending attitude, it's only going to score you more hate. As surprising as this might be, you're no better than anyone else here.

That said, your post amounts to little more than blind anger complaining. You've stated nothing specific aside from 'corrupt save' this and 'corrupt save' that. For all you or any of us may know, it's likely something with your system, and not the game itself. :shrug:

» Wed Oct 05, 2011 6:36 pm

What I don't get is, if I have a game that keeps getting corrupt saves, I look up if this is common. If not, then I assume I have a bad copy or something's wrong with my system. I've heard of buggy games even after the patches (most common on X-box, least common on PC), but not corrupt save issues.

I get being frustrated that you got a [censored] copy, but I don't understand why you'd KEEP playing it if all your saves corrupt instead of trying to get a new copy or play it on a different system.

It might just be my copy. I might just buy a new one and see if that works. Also I am on the Xbox.

» Wed Oct 05, 2011 6:26 pm

Again, this was brought up as "whining". How is it? I'm explaining points with valied facts. I'm not basing this off of just my experiences.

Both Obsidian and Bethesda worked on bugs, Bethesda went to Skyrim and Obsidian went to something else.

The title says, "General Discussion" which can have like and dislike opinions.

Again, never had problems in FO3 but it could be a CD thing.

I take every precaution to avoid corrupt saves, even what you just said above.

Incorrect, you are complaining about your personnal experience and pointing out others have had this problem too.

Just warning you that you will be flamed a LOT on this thread.

Well that's you. I had a couple of glitches, one included deathclaws walking around twenty feet off of the ground (it was pretty funny IMO) and four corrupt saves, while NV only made my screen turn purple when I was walking along the road to the Strip and one corrupt save.

Just advice.

» Wed Oct 05, 2011 4:52 pm

I understood that both games were glitching and buggy, but what I'm saying is that there a more game rendering bugs and glitches in NV than in 3, which seems like I got the bad end of the stick in NV. Also OP said, "This is just my opinion". But there are others aswell.

So why did you start off by complaining solely about Obsidian even though the previous game built on this engine by developers who were intimately familiar with and had a much longer development time also had many bugs? What did you expect?

If you had a such an awful experience with New Vegas that's unfortunate but such things happen. What did you think your forum post was going to do exactly? You think Obsidian and Bethesda don't know there are still plenty of bugs in New Vegas? Just as there were in Fallout 3 when that game stopped being patched.

» Wed Oct 05, 2011 4:32 pm

It might just be my copy. I might just buy a new one and see if that works. Also I am on the Xbox.

Oi, do yourself a favor then and if you can, get a PC copy instead.

There's plenty of people with working copies for the Xbox, but check ANY page on the vault and you'll notice XBox often has 4x the bugs of the PS3 or PC. It's simply a safer bet to get it for the PC.