One quick question Obsidian

Post » Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:14 am

Why do you svck at making games? This has to be one of the worst games I've ever played. When it first came out, I wanted to get it but didn't have the money at the time. When I saw it for $20 on Amazon, I thought, " Hey, I should get this game because I liked Fallout 3 and this is the next installment in the series. It should be pretty good." Boy was I wrong. When I got the game, it was a pre-order copy with the cardboard box and vault DLC card in it. I just thought that the game was overstocked so they had to sell some. Now, I heard about a large amount of bugs from when the game came out, but being that some time had passed, I thought that those would have been patched. Wrong again. My first play through was pretty awesome, it felt like I was in this post-apocalyptic time. Then, when I finally reach New Vegas, I decided to save my game and continue tomarrow. When I got on the next day, my save was corrupt. I was pretty mad, but in the end I made another account. Things were pretty good at the start, got to New Vegas that time. Then, when I go the Great Khans camp, another corrupt game. And again at another place, and again, until I finally beat the game with the NCR. Then I made another character to beat the game with the Legion, House, and Yes Man. Had two more corrupt saves within this time period. After all this, I cleared my cache (which I had done about 25 times throughout NCR and other gameplays) and started a new character. This was going to be my overall awesome character. I deleted auto and manual saves regularly so I wouldn't get a corrupt game. And what do you know? At the end, it also gets corrupt. Now I didn't even mention all the smaller bugs. Some I encountered were audio bugs, items falling through the ground, items duplicating in my inventory adding invisible weight in my inventory, objects not spawning in cells, etc. and the list can go on, trust me. The first day I downloaded GRA, I went for all the achievements in the DLC. Guess what, the game is so buggy that DLC achievements don't even show up and get locked. I have to redo them again, wasting more time while I can be playing the other story DLC on my main character because I have to make a new character because I can't complete some of the 3 star challenges after killing most of the monsters to do the challange. What I'm trying to say is that the bugs in this game are unreal. While the stroy is amazingly deep and fantasticly created (even though they thought it would be a good idea to end the game after the final mission. Really? Didn't you guys learn this wasn't popular from FO3), but the bugs make it hard to really enjoy the game as a whole. I'm scared to play FO and FO2 on the PC because I might lose hours of gameplay due to bugs. Why is this Fallout buggier than Fallout 3? Aren't they on the same game engine. It's not like its hard to find the bugs. The Wiki has pretty much all of them know out on the website. Yes, there many be hundreds of bugs, why not fix the main ones the that may hender the game unplayable? Oh yeah, the team quit, along with the patches to fix the game. Why quit on a game to go to other projects when there is probably a demand for DLC and bugs need to be fixed on this game?

Obsidian, I've lost respect for this game and any future games you will create. I'll have to check future games to make sure that you haven't screwed it over. But this is just my opinion.
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Post » Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:21 am

:violin:

Post your whining somewhere else :down: Honestly, how do expect someone to respond to this? Do you really think that the people on this forum who (obviously) really love this game are going to want to read this or agree with this. :shakehead:
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Farrah Lee
 
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Post » Wed Oct 05, 2011 6:11 pm

To quote Gunny, TS:DGAF.

and to quote... some guy, qa qa.
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Post » Wed Oct 05, 2011 8:05 am

I laughed.
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Sabrina Schwarz
 
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Post » Wed Oct 05, 2011 6:34 pm

Sure there are some bugs in the game, but thats to be expected from a game like new vegas. I've personally never encountered any game breaking ones, only minor annoying ones. Hell, fallout 3 had its bugs, and Bethesda was much more familiar with the engine.
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Post » Wed Oct 05, 2011 1:41 pm

To quote Gunny, TS:DGAF.

and to quote... some guy, qa qa.

:rofl: :rofl:

I agree, this topic is nothing but qa qa
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Post » Wed Oct 05, 2011 6:14 am

New Vegas was okay but when compared to FO3 I say it svcks ass. But I wouldn't bash on NV on the forums that much, just a little bit. People are probably gonna start hating you. But overall NV is pretty good other than some bugs! damn bugs :glare:
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Post » Wed Oct 05, 2011 8:13 am

(even though they thought it would be a good idea to end the game after the final mission. Really? Didn't you guys learn this wasn't popular from FO3)


What wasn't popular about Fallout 3's ending was how badly it was implemented.
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Post » Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:21 pm

Why do you svck at making games? This has to be one of the worst games I've ever played. When it first came out, I wanted to get it but didn't have the money at the time. When I saw it for $20 on Amazon, I thought, " Hey, I should get this game because I liked Fallout 3 and this is the next installment in the series. It should be pretty good." Boy was I wrong. When I got the game, it was a pre-order copy with the cardboard box and vault DLC card in it. I just thought that the game was overstocked so they had to sell some. Now, I heard about a large amount of bugs from when the game came out, but being that some time had passed, I thought that those would have been patched. Wrong again. My first play through was pretty awesome, it felt like I was in this post-apocalyptic time. Then, when I finally reach New Vegas, I decided to save my game and continue tomarrow. When I got on the next day, my save was corrupt. I was pretty mad, but in the end I made another account. Things were pretty good at the start, got to New Vegas that time. Then, when I go the Great Khans camp, another corrupt game. And again at another place, and again, until I finally beat the game with the NCR. Then I made another character to beat the game with the Legion, House, and Yes Man. Had two more corrupt saves within this time period. After all this, I cleared my cache (which I had done about 25 times throughout NCR and other gameplays) and started a new character. This was going to be my overall awesome character. I deleted auto and manual saves regularly so I wouldn't get a corrupt game. And what do you know? At the end, it also gets corrupt. Now I didn't even mention all the smaller bugs. Some I encountered were audio bugs, items falling through the ground, items duplicating in my inventory adding invisible weight in my inventory, objects not spawning in cells, etc. and the list can go on, trust me. The first day I downloaded GRA, I went for all the achievements in the DLC. Guess what, the game is so buggy that DLC achievements don't even show up and get locked. I have to redo them again, wasting more time while I can be playing the other story DLC on my main character because I have to make a new character because I can't complete some of the 3 star challenges after killing most of the monsters to do the challange. What I'm trying to say is that the bugs in this game are unreal. While the stroy is amazingly deep and fantasticly created (even though they thought it would be a good idea to end the game after the final mission. Really? Didn't you guys learn this wasn't popular from FO3), but the bugs make it hard to really enjoy the game as a whole. I'm scared to play FO and FO2 on the PC because I might lose hours of gameplay due to bugs. Why is this Fallout buggier than Fallout 3? Aren't they on the same game engine. It's not like its hard to find the bugs. The Wiki has pretty much all of them know out on the website. Yes, there many be hundreds of bugs, why not fix the main ones the that may hender the game unplayable? Oh yeah, the team quit, along with the patches to fix the game. Why quit on a game to go to other projects when there is probably a demand for DLC and bugs need to be fixed on this game?

Obsidian, I've lost respect for this game and any future games you will create. I'll have to check future games to make sure that you haven't screwed it over. But this is just my opinion.



Dang, must be unlucky. Even on the unpatched game anything then a minor bug every day. You must be doing it wrong.
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Post » Wed Oct 05, 2011 6:02 am

Save early, save often. Corrupt saves happen.
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Post » Wed Oct 05, 2011 7:48 pm

How is it whinning? Because its the truth and facts? Or is it becasue your so stuck on fanboyism that you can see through the possible faults in this game? I'm sorry if a well thought out and write rant is considered "whinning" to unintelligent and ignorant people who come and post stuff with only skimming through the post.

P.S. If you had fully understand what I had posted instead of just flaming it after I posted it, you would understand its not actually a question. Idiots.
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Post » Wed Oct 05, 2011 7:25 pm

What wasn't popular about Fallout 3's ending was how badly it was implemented.


I agree with that, but still a good story line like New Vegas.
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Post » Wed Oct 05, 2011 6:00 am

How is it whinning? Because its the truth and facts? Or is it becasue your so stuck on fanboyism that you can see through the possible faults in this game? I'm sorry if a well thought out and write rant is considered "whinning" to unintelligent and ignorant people who come and post stuff with only skimming through the post.

P.S. If you had fully understand what I had posted instead of just flaming it after I posted it, you would understand its not actually a question. Idiots.


You're the one flaming, and BTW, rants are generally considered complaining/whining, so you just shot yourself in the foot there.
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Post » Wed Oct 05, 2011 7:59 am

You're the one flaming, and BTW, rants are generally considered complaining/whining, so you just shot yourself in the foot there.

I'm flaming because I posted my opinion of a game while instead, you attack me for post what I have to say about the game instead of backing up or disproving why the game is good/bad? Ranting is writing or speaking in an anrgy manner, which I am doing. Whining/complaining is a childish way to aruge over something you don't like. I just stated facts of what happens to me when I play this game. Yet, here you are still arguing over the whole whining thing when you're not even arguing over the point of the post: Bugs and no more patches to fix said bugs.
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I'm flaming because I posted my opinion of a game while instead, you attack me for post what I have to say about the game instead of backing up or disproving why the game is good/bad? Ranting is writing or speaking in an anrgy manner, which I am doing. Whining/complaining is a childish way to aruge over something you don't like. I just stated facts of what happens to me when I play this game. Yet, here you are still arguing over the whole whining thing when you're not even arguing over the point of the post: Bugs and no more patches to fix said bugs.


Well, I would suggest you take this qa qa over to the hardware and software issues section of the forum, because that is what that section is for. If you want to complain with other angry people, then that seems like the place to be.
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Post » Wed Oct 05, 2011 1:20 pm

i think its pretty lame there won't be any more patches. but it sounds like you had a way worse time than i did with this game. its [censored] me around now and then but i've never got a corrupt save or anything like that. svcks for people who did cuz they're missing out on a great experience
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Post » Wed Oct 05, 2011 1:39 pm

@ Hero Llama http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPjUsu2-QMQ
Edit: Bonus! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBXnpb86pxs
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Post » Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:23 am

Man, I actually read through your post, and its really unfortunate you kept ending up with a corrupt save. I can imagine how that feels when a person hours and hours in a game and then the game just goes crazy.

It happened to me a couple of times in Empire Total War. I had hundreds of hours invested in it and ended up with corrupt AI at a turn. And no matter what i did, nothing helped and had to start a new game. I even went to their forums and made a very ugly & well deserved rant thread. Got banned in a couple of hours but was worth it.

Anyhow, I really sincerely suggest that you should post your problem in the technical problems section ( if thats what its called). I can understand your need to rant about it, but right now our top priority should be to get that game running for you without getting any corrupt saves.

Hope it works out for you. :)
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@ Hero Llama http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPjUsu2-QMQ
Edit: Bonus! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBXnpb86pxs

Again, attacking me, not the post. Grow up.
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Post » Wed Oct 05, 2011 8:32 am

Man, I actually read through your post, and its really unfortunate you kept ending up with a corrupt save. I can imagine how that feels when a person hours and hours in a game and then the game just goes crazy.

It happened to me a couple of times in Empire Total War. I had hundreds of hours invested in it and ended up with corrupt AI at a turn. And no matter what i did, nothing helped and had to start a new game. I even went to their forums and made a very ugly & well deserved rant thread. Got banned in a couple of hours but was worth it.

Anyhow, I really sincerely suggest that you should post your problem in the technical problems section ( if thats what its called). I can understand your need to rant about it, but right now our top priority should be to get that game running for you without getting any corrupt saves.

Hope it works out for you. :)

Yeah, this game has been giving me some trouble. And now it says I have to rebuy GRA even though I bought it already. BRB now I actually have to go to the tech support. :/
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Post » Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:52 am

Why is this Fallout buggier than Fallout 3? Aren't they on the same game engine. It's not like its hard to find the bugs.


Fallout 3 was very very buggy when it was released. I had plenty of corrupt saves on it. In fact, the only reason it was as stable as it was when I last played it was because I had a community made patch installed. They did all the work Bethesda didn't. Also, Gamebryo, the engine used, is KNOWN for being notoriously buggy. Especially with Bethesda/Bethesda-ish games. Take that into account with the fact Obsidian has a track record of bugs, and you get disaster.

Also, Bethesda handled the QA. But, yeah, Obsidian still handled the coding, so.
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Post » Wed Oct 05, 2011 8:01 pm

Okay I'll attack your post. You're using an unfortunate individual experience to make an inaccurate generalization.

Do you really think all, or even the majority of New Vegas gamers had problems this severe? If they did how did New Vegas sell so many copies? How is it still selling copies? How did it receive overwhelmingly positive reviews if no reviewer was capable of completing the game without losing multiple games to file corruption? And do you really think that only Obsidian games can have these problems? I never had a corrupted save in Fallout 3 but I constantly had enemies glitching through terrain, flying Deathclaws, multiple CTDs, and what would've been a game ending bug had I not been playing on a PC and able to bypass it using the console. And that was one playthrough. New Vegas for me was much more stable. So your experience isn't universal and your biased rage over it is hilarious and embarrassing particularly since you only spent 20 bucks and apparently liked the actual game enough to attempt multiple playthroughs despite your technical frustrations.
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Post » Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:17 am

Okay I'll attack your post. You're using an unfortunate individual experience to make an inaccurate generalization.

Do you really think all, or even the majority of New Vegas gamers had problems this severe? If they did how did New Vegas sell so many copies? How is it still selling copies? How did it receive overwhelmingly positive reviews if no reviewer was capable of completing the game without losing multiple games to file corruption? And do you really think that only Obsidian games can have these problems? I never had a corrupted save in Fallout 3 but I constantly had enemies glitching through terrain, flying Deathclaws, multiple CTDs, and what would've been a game ending bug had I not been playing on a PC and able to bypass it using the console. And that was one playthrough. New Vegas for me was much more stable. So your experience isn't universal and your biased rage over it is hilarious and embarrassing particularly since you only spent 20 bucks and apparently liked the actual game enough to attempt multiple playthroughs despite your technical frustrations.

How are all of these bugs being discovered if gamers aren't having problems? Maybe New Vegas sold so many copies because theres a name like "Fallout", "Bethesda", etc on the game like how people buy other games because of their name and not actual gameplay like "Call of Duty", and "Activision". The game is $20 so its a bargin to be bought now. Overwhelmingly postive reviews? Wheres the negative ones? Leaving those out? I know Obsidian didn't make the game to have problems, but they're forgeting the game and not patching the issues they have now. They are moving on to new projects. I had a better experience with Fallout 3, maybe a CD thing, not sure. How is it embarrassing? Care to explain? How does monetary value have to deal with anything on game playback and opinion? Please explain. BTW only made the other accounts to get the achievements.

Also, inaccurate generalization: Go look at The Vault: Fallout wiki and click the bugs section. Its pretty sad when theres a list of bugs of a full game longer than The Consitution. Or to put that in a more graspable view, BF3 BETA, which if any one played it, has less bugs than this game.
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Post » Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:42 am

Another thing, just randomly go through articles on the wiki. Look at the bottom bugs and see whats wrong. Put your fanboyism away and comprehend whats there. Yes, I liked Fallout 3 and New Vegas, but when a game is bad, I admit it and don't hide it.
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Post » Wed Oct 05, 2011 7:14 am

How is it whinning? Because its the truth and facts? Or is it becasue your so stuck on fanboyism that you can see through the possible faults in this game? I'm sorry if a well thought out and write rant is considered "whinning" to unintelligent and ignorant people who come and post stuff with only skimming through the post.

P.S. If you had fully understand what I had posted instead of just flaming it after I posted it, you would understand its not actually a question. Idiots.
Another thing, just randomly go through articles on the wiki. Look at the bottom bugs and see whats wrong. Put your fanboyism away and comprehend whats there. Yes, I liked Fallout 3 and New Vegas, but when a game is bad, I admit it and don't hide it.


I disliked NV and I have to tell you, you are whinning.

Sorry to say but Bethesda was the one in charge of bug testing (if what I have heard is correct) so blame them and not Obsidian, they're the ones who did no give them much time.

I am also sorry to say but nobody on these forums is going to tell you differently than the people here have, this is the NV Forums, not the NV Problem Forums so the people here dislike it.

And here is the greatest thing I can tell you, my Level 30 save in F3 and my level 30 save in NV had to get corrupted for me to come up with this secret to protecting your saves:
Double Save!

All you have to do is save at the exact same area twice in a row.

Sure it takes a little longer but it pays off when one corrupts and the other doesn't (has happened to me three times now, I feel great right afterwards!)
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