Only one moon : The Elder Scrolls Series Discussion

» Mon May 07, 2012 8:26 pm

I Skyrim, I almost only see ONE moon in the night skies. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Oblivion and Morrowind always have two moons at the same time?
Or am I just completely lost?

» Mon May 07, 2012 4:03 pm

There are two moons, just look harder.

» Tue May 08, 2012 1:48 am

or are there three?

» Mon May 07, 2012 11:55 pm

Secunda and Masser are both there. One of them may have been in the 'New Moon' phase.

» Tue May 08, 2012 3:02 am

or are there three?

Space Cats!

» Tue May 08, 2012 2:20 am

Okay there are two moons, but Secunda is up in the sky earlier than the other, and has disappeared before Masser arrives. I'm quite sure it wasn't like this before?

» Mon May 07, 2012 11:19 am

Oops, I meant The Great War book,
http://imperial-library.info/content/great-war
The moons vanished once upon a time for two whole years, then the Thalmor claimed they brought them back.

Who knows how this effected the dual moon orbits and phase cycles?

» Mon May 07, 2012 5:37 pm

two moons

and that thing with thalmor saying they bringed back moons? hah!

» Mon May 07, 2012 3:41 pm

Okay there are two moons, but Secunda is up in the sky earlier than the other, and has disappeared before Masser arrives. I'm quite sure it wasn't like this before?

I've seen them right next to each other.

» Mon May 07, 2012 2:30 pm

They now each have their own orbit, something I think is pretty nifty.

I havent really studied the details of them yet, but sometimes they appear both close together and sometimes I see only one.

I dont think this really has any impact on the lore though, as this is about technical things, what they can get into the game.
Daggerfall didnt have moons at all.

» Tue May 08, 2012 3:07 am

I've seen them right next to each other.

They do both. Sometimes their close together, other times their in very different parts of the sky.

» Tue May 08, 2012 1:44 am

I think they changed their orbiting. In Oblivion they were always right next to each other if I remember correctly, but now they're more difficult to spot together (atleast for me).

» Mon May 07, 2012 11:35 pm

Oops, I meant The Great War book,
http://imperial-library.info/content/great-war
The moons vanished once upon a time for two whole years, then the Thalmor claimed they brought them back.

Who knows how this effected the dual moon orbits and phase cycles?

The khajiit went all crazy because the moon is essential to their culture and even birth. I wonder how those with Lycanthropy dealt with that? No forced transformations for two years :ahhh:

» Tue May 08, 2012 12:56 am

The khajiit went all crazy because the moon is essential to their culture and even birth. I wonder how those with Lycanthropy dealt with that? No forced transformations for two years :ahhh:

[funthought]They transformed with the full Aedra. So instead of two instigators for transformations, they had 8. [/funthought]

» Mon May 07, 2012 3:47 pm

[funthought]They transformed with the full Aedra. So instead of two instigators for transformations, they had 8. [/funthought]

This is a joke. Right?

» Mon May 07, 2012 10:34 pm

The khajiit went all crazy because the moon is essential to their culture and even birth. I wonder how those with Lycanthropy dealt with that? No forced transformations for two years :ahhh:

I have a suspicion that the Khajiit also lost their third moon.

» Tue May 08, 2012 1:09 am

This is a joke. Right?

Poor, poor wherewolves.

» Mon May 07, 2012 9:51 pm

This is a joke. Right?

It is as it's labeled. Though to be serious, the eight aedric satellites must have looked divine without the repressive reflections of Masser and Secunda.

» Mon May 07, 2012 11:19 am

Poor, poor wherewolves.

Where? Wolves? Men that are wolves?

It is as it's labeled. Though to be serious, the eight aedric satellites must have looked divine without the repressive reflections of Masser and Secunda.

Interesting. Though what does the Aedra have to do with it? Just asking, I don't understand much about the Aedra.

» Mon May 07, 2012 1:47 pm

Where? Wolves? Men that are wolves?

Interesting. Though what does the Aedra have to do with it? Just asking, I don't understand much about the Aedra.

"Verevolf!"

"Werewolf?"

"There!"

"Huh?!"

"Therewolf."

» Mon May 07, 2012 9:11 pm

They now each have their own orbit, something I think is pretty nifty.

I havent really studied the details of them yet, but sometimes they appear both close together and sometimes I see only one.

I dont think this really has any impact on the lore though, as this is about technical things, what they can get into the game.
Daggerfall didnt have moons at all.

I'm reasonably certain though that they still follow each other in terms of phases, so for instance, when Masser is full, Secunda will always be full and so on.

At least the times I've looked at the sky, they seemed to be in the same phase.

» Mon May 07, 2012 4:43 pm

"Verevolf!"

"Werewolf?"

"There!"

"Huh?!"

"Therewolf."

Hehe.

How does Hircine command the wolves though, if it's Lorkhan's body that makes them so? And what is the connection between werewolves and Lorkhan?

» Tue May 08, 2012 1:21 am

Interesting. Though what does the Aedra have to do with it? Just asking, I don't understand much about the Aedra.

Nirn has ten satellites, the eight aedric planets, and the two moons. Bright objects in the sky can blot out the presence of less illuminated ones, or at least make them less obvious. The two moons are very bright and prominent. With them gone, many other celestial objects (such as the eight planets) would be easier to see, if only because you wouldn't have a big ass moon in your line of sight. (I mean honestly, Masser and Secunda are huge in the night sky. Their either very big or very close,)

As I labeled, it's only a fun thought, but when planets orbit planets, what's to stop those more distant satellites from influencing lycanthropes when Masser and Secunda are gone?

» Tue May 08, 2012 1:08 am

Hehe.

How does Hircine command the wolves though, if it's Lorkhan's body that makes them so? And what is the connection between werewolves and Lorkhan?

Hircine commands werewolves because they are his creation. As a Patron and Daedric Prince of the hunt, he created Lycanthropy and bestowed it upon mortals. Thus he can command and directly speak to them. Even having power on their very soul upon death. I don't believe Lorkhan has any connection to werewolves.

Nirn has ten satellites, the eight aedric planets, and the two moons. Bright objects in the sky can blot out the presence of less illuminated ones, or at least make them less obvious. The two moons are very bright and prominent. With them gone, many other celestial objects (such as the eight planets) would be easier to see, if only because you wouldn't have a big ass moon in your line of sight. (I mean honestly, Masser and Secunda are huge in the night sky. Their either very big or very close,)

As I labeled, it's only a fun thought, but when planets orbit planets, what's to stop those more distant satellites from influencing lycanthropes when Masser and Secunda are gone?

Ah. I understand now. Thanks.

» Tue May 08, 2012 1:10 am

As someone who is very into astronomy ( :geek:

) the moons and their cycles...and the other 8 planets does my head in.

That said, Thalmor claiming they saved the moons is very similar to the Aztec priests who worked out when the next solar eclipse will be. Very powerful knowledge.