I only see three major problems with brink.

Post » Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:22 pm

I dont get why people are hating on the game so much. It is a fresh, new idea that has gone from the boring COD style FPS and gone down a new route.

Having said that there are 3 big problems, 2 of which are disgrace to video games in general. Before I complain about these three things let me say that i have respect for splash damage and there ideas in this game. They have just executed there plans very very badly.

The 3 big problems in my eyes are:

1, the lag- sorry splash but you cannot bring out a game that is specifically meant to be played online with such bad connections. If your game was actually a single player game with a bonus MP i could understand, but this isnt. Sorry guys but by modern day online gaming standards this is really really disgraceful on your part. You really should think twice before releasing another video game for online play. If you look at the credits they have only assigned one person for net-coding.....ONE PERSON!!!!!!!. WOW!!!!!

2, the shockingly bad A.I. Worst A.I i have ever seen in a game. honestly Splash Damage is this a joke?

3, wasn't there meant to be a story about an ark? the story is dull, boring, no-one cares. It has no character and is generally just boring.

Now let me give some props to Splash Damage. These guys have quickly agknowledged the problem and are sorting it AND apologising. Fair play to them. We all mess up, no-one is perfect and you are sorting it for your fan base so well done guys. (Still not excusable though)

Also i hear they are going to release free DLC content as an apology. I think thats a great gesture.

All in all I CAN NOT see why they are proud of this game YET. It is literally a few tweaks away from being something they should be proud of. But at the minute, if they are proud of this they really should take a look at other games online and A.I.

Keep it up splash damage, I know you will come good and i know this game has an uber amount of potential.
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Post » Mon Nov 01, 2010 3:31 pm

I'm surprised no one has stormed in here trying to discredit your points.
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Post » Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:20 pm

I agree with the OP on this I personally was holding very high hopes for this game I finally get it and I am terribly disappointed.
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Post » Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:23 pm

Yeah those are my 3 probs with it too..shallow storyline, laggy multi, and AI allies that often get in the way more than they help. Still fun of course, and I'm looking forward to the DLC and patches. Matter of fact I'm working on my last achievement which I should get by tonight because I like the game so much.
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Post » Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:53 pm

I'm surprised no one has stormed in here trying to discredit your points.


Because they're true

Honestly, I love the game, and find it a ton of fun, but those issues up there in the OP hold it back
I even remember the Container City walkthrough a while back having more of a story, and now it's gone
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Post » Mon Nov 01, 2010 7:23 pm

I'm surprised no one has stormed in here trying to discredit your points.


Well Geez, now I can't storm in here and try to discredit all his points.

Oh well.


I dont get why people are hating on the game so much. It is a fresh, new idea that has gone from the boring COD style FPS and gone down a new route.

Having said that there are 3 big problems, 2 of which are disgrace to video games in general. Before I complain about these three things let me say that i have respect for splash damage and there ideas in this game. They have just executed there plans very very badly.

The 3 big problems in my eyes are:

1, the lag- sorry splash but you cannot bring out a game that is specifically meant to be played online with such bad connections. If your game was actually a single player game with a bonus MP i could understand, but this isnt. Sorry guys but by modern day online gaming standards this is really really disgraceful on your part. You really should think twice before releasing another video game for online play. If you look at the credits they have only assigned one person for net-coding.....ONE PERSON!!!!!!!. WOW!!!!! Aye, I'll agree with this, but it's only a week old - this is more than likely a temporary flaw.

2, the shockingly bad A.I. Worst A.I i have ever seen in a game. honestly Splash Damage is this a joke? What level are you? The AI get much deadiler at level 15.

3, wasn't there meant to be a story about an ark? the story is dull, boring, no-one cares. It has no character and is generally just boring.Listen to the audio logs, though that goes hand-in-hand into my previous assumption that you simply arent high leveled.

Now let me give some props to Splash Damage. These guys have quickly agknowledged the problem and are sorting it AND apologising. Fair play to them. We all mess up, no-one is perfect and you are sorting it for your fan base so well done guys. (Still not excusable though)

Also i hear they are going to release free DLC content as an apology. I think thats a great gesture.

All in all I CAN NOT see why they are proud of this game YET. It is literally a few tweaks away from being something they should be proud of. But at the minute, if they are proud of this they really should take a look at other games online and A.I.

Keep it up splash damage, I know you will come good and i know this game has an uber amount of potential.

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Post » Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:08 am


I even remember the Container City walkthrough a while back having more of a story, and now it's gone


Yeah what the heck is up with that? Did they just create the story in that level just to mislead us?? I mean really I seriously thought there was going to be some suspense and dramatic moments; yet here I am not even knowing any of the characters in the cutscenes names. I checked out the Audio Logs and they were decent, but there wasn't anything that we hadn't already seen by beating the campaign in the Video Log section. I really want to know why they didn't have cutscenes like in the walkthrough and why they removed that one in the first place..
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Post » Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:22 am

I'm fine with how it is besides the lag of course I disagree on 2 and 3. 2 well it's a bot, how can you expect much better? It's VERY complicated to make a competent A.I because it processes houndreds of options in a small amount of time. But in the world of putting A.I into multi-player I think they did a pretty good job.
3. Story... It is basic but it is there. Security save the ark, resistance leave the ark. The audio logs are quite intriguing buti wish the words were bigger.
Respectfully disagreeing
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Post » Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:17 am

1 . I dont have any lag at all, but Im on a PC.

2. The AI isnt the greatest, but I did not buy the game to play against AI.

3. I think the backstory to the game is excellent.
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Post » Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:29 pm

One thing I'm a bit disapointed in is that your charecter is in the background all the time and not really important. I had thought that each person would be the main charecter so that my charecter would be the one talking in the vids if I was host or the one being talked to if someone else was hosting, but instead I'm always in the background not really saying anything.


But the lag in MP also is a let down. I don't want to get rid of the game because I'll do that and then the online will get fixed, but if I keep it and it never gets better I'll be losing money if I trade it in later.
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Post » Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:10 pm

Yeah what the heck is up with that? Did they just create the story in that level just to mislead us?? I mean really I seriously thought there was going to be some suspense and dramatic moments; yet here I am not even knowing any of the characters in the cutscenes names. I checked out the Audio Logs and they were decent, but there wasn't anything that we hadn't already seen by beating the campaign in the Video Log section. I really want to know why they didn't have cutscenes like in the walkthrough and why they removed that one in the first place..


More gameplay,less story? If that's the idea then I don't like it that much. Well with the new maps coming out in June, it will probably have more to the story.
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Post » Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:54 pm

Yea, I was disappointed that there was no capture the flag type game in it, and the fact that the game could get redundant easily.

but the main reason I returned my pre-order was because I played it and there were no Legacy control settings. That REALLY did it for me...
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Post » Mon Nov 01, 2010 5:56 pm

Hmm story in a multiplayershooter?
Look Counterstrike and look so much more.(BF,CoD,blablabla and bla)
You dont really need a story in that games.

The Lag problem i only have on some servers,then i quit and go on another one,so i play never with lags.

The AI isnt the smartest but its not so stupid like everyone means.They make mistakes and sometimes they are [censored],but they are also sometimes good team members and make there job well.(Look Counterstrike Bots,they are stupid too and nobody cry about that)In this game the AI have to do alot more as killing enemies.)The other thing is i wanna play a mp shooter with humans not with bots.

I think the main problem of brink are the gamemodes and the number of maps.This game need so much more modes and more maps.This game will get to fast boring if they dont add new modes.Till now im happy with that but i know i will want more diffrence.

I hope you can understand all.Im not english.Sorry.

PS : I love Brink

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Post » Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:28 pm

Well Geez, now I can't storm in here and try to discredit all his points.

Oh well.


1. The Lag is ridiculous even though it may be temporary there is no reason for it to be that bad also finding other human players is no easy task I have spent a good couple of hours trying to find a game (PS3) on all types of public matches and even the campain versus.

2. I am max level and the A.I. is just as terrible now as it was when I started.

3. I'm sorry but the audio logs don't tell me anything that I didn't already know from playing the Campaign.
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Post » Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:05 pm

Totally agree with all points, especially the AI problem.
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Post » Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:01 pm

I do have one thing to say about the lag issue. You do know how the internet works right? You are aware that whenever a device makes a connection it doesn't connect directly to whatever server you are trying to connect to. It goes through multiple servers, or hops, to get to where you are going. The Lag may not be, and 9 out of 10 times it isn't, the fault of the main game server. Usually it has to do with the route that your DNS decided to send you on. Lag or heavy usage at any one of those nodes along the way will give you lag in your game. The only way to say with certainty whether or not this is the case is to trace your route from your machine to the Brink servers and look at the ping between nodes. I know I for one have yet to experience any lag in the game at all. It plays as silky smooth as it does in single player and I do not have a T1 line, just basic tier cable connection. I'm on PSN BTW.

As for the story I personally enjoyed it. I admit they could have told more of it in game, but I was not disappointed at not being the main character. It was kind of cool and it fit with the core concept of the game that you are part of a larger conflict instead of the conflict revolving around you, as it seems to do in other games.

AI is AI. What do you want from a multiplayer game? It was designed to be human vs human so of course the AI is lackluster and utilitarian. It's not meant to be the end all be all challenge of the game.
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Post » Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:28 am

This game is team fortress with updated graphics.Which i love about it. the only thing i Really Really hate about the game is the freaking lag. i always have a great connection while playing Xbox and PC games; on here i cant move 2 feet without freeze framing.
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Post » Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:41 pm

I just hate the lag. Story is okay, idc.
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Post » Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:34 pm

1. The Lag is ridiculous even though it may be temporary there is no reason for it to be that bad also finding other human players is no easy task I have spent a good couple of hours trying to find a game (PS3) on all types of public matches and even the campain versus.

2. I am max level and the A.I. is just as terrible now as it was when I started.

3. I'm sorry but the audio logs don't tell me anything that I didn't already know from playing the Campaign.


Fair enough.
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Post » Mon Nov 01, 2010 3:01 pm

One thing I'm a bit disapointed in is that your charecter is in the background all the time and not really important. I had thought that each person would be the main charecter so that my charecter would be the one talking in the vids if I was host or the one being talked to if someone else was hosting, but instead I'm always in the background not really saying anything.


But the lag in MP also is a let down. I don't want to get rid of the game because I'll do that and then the online will get fixed, but if I keep it and it never gets better I'll be losing money if I trade it in later.



do you know hard it would be to do that you have the diffrent voices and 2-8 people that can be in the game with you. plus actullay programing your char to talk in a cutscene would be another 1-3 weeks of work cause of all the ways to customize them
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Post » Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:14 pm

do you know hard it would be to do that you have the diffrent voices and 2-8 people that can be in the game with you. plus actullay programing your char to talk in a cutscene would be another 1-3 weeks of work cause of all the ways to customize them


I've seen it in other games, and your charecters already there on screen. I find it hard to believe that they can't make your charecter talk.
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Post » Mon Nov 01, 2010 5:08 pm

Yup, I agree with you, OP.

I'm pretty disappointed in the story. I never liked Audio Logs in games, so that may be a personal thing. I like VISUAL things, I like the Show-not-Tell method
of story-telling like in movies, TV and comic books (and video games, of course! ;) ).

This story felt like it had potential, but most of the time, I'm just like, "Meh",
and I never really cared about anybody or their dire situations because it's all TELLING me about their dire situations,
but I never SAW the dire situations or witnessed the disastrous results of the situations, etc.

Why can't we see and feel the Resistance members suffering?
Why can't we feel the desperation of the Security people and the rest of the people on the island?
Why do I care about which side to pick? Both sides never felt compelling to me (in-game). Only outside of the game when
this forum was speculating, and people did creative things like the refugee journal, etc, did I felt interested in Brink's story.

In the actual game? Felt absolutely nothing---and I'm usually a sap
when it comes to video game stories. I enjoyed the Campaigns/story modes of FPS games that don't really have ultra-deep stories like Killzone 2, Modern Warfare, Black Ops, Metroid Prime 3, Halo: Reach, etc, so why can't I enjoy Brink's campaign?

Ugh, bots.

I can't find people online last time I tried to go online, too. And my connection is kind of low, so it feels very slow, I think.....? Either way, I'm going to keep playing offline.

This game has potential, but it desperately needs some support.
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Post » Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:37 pm

It might just be me but I liked the story and how it was presented. Brinks story reenforces it's style of game. I like the fact that your character isn't the main protagonist, you are just another solider. You know what your comrades know, this is especially prevalent in the Security campaign, where you find certain things out along the way. And like The Cynical Brit said, it gives you context to why you are fighting this particular map.
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Post » Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:15 am

The graphics are also shockingly bad, during firefights, enemies look like Playstation 1 pixelated crap. Please delay the game for a year and fix next time or charge less for it. I got robbed.
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Post » Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:54 pm

I think the graphics are amazing, what system are you on?
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