Open Cities and Better Cities : IV

» Sun Aug 08, 2010 1:57 pm

Is it possible to get better cities and open cities running at the same time?

If it is, will it be compatible with FCOM?

Thanks.

» Sun Aug 08, 2010 9:39 pm

No, but Open Better Cities exists. That one is compatible with FCOM, I'm pretty sure, but check for patches.

» Sun Aug 08, 2010 3:31 pm

Are the cities In Open Better Cities the same as in Better Cities?

» Sun Aug 08, 2010 3:51 pm

Yes, they modify the vanilla cities. They don't add new cities.

» Sun Aug 08, 2010 5:59 pm

I know. I have used better cities before, but I mean does Open Better Cities modify the cities in the same way as Better Cities?

» Sun Aug 08, 2010 8:53 am

Looks like it. Read about it here: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=17084

» Sun Aug 08, 2010 5:12 pm

Keep in mind that OBC is no longer supported, or so I've heard... BC has been updated quite a bit since the last OBC updated, and the same goes for Open Cities...different updates though.

» Sun Aug 08, 2010 1:15 pm

I use OBC. It is (so far) compatible with the latest version of Better Cities, and it uses the same layout as in BC. It is, as Tom mentioned, no longer supported, so it might eventually become incompatible with BC. Just like BC, it's an FPS killer - you should have at least 2 GB of RAM and a decent video card or your system will bog around the cities.

» Sun Aug 08, 2010 9:00 am

4GB RAM and a Radeon 4350.

Sufficient?

» Sun Aug 08, 2010 8:06 am

I use OBC. It is (so far) compatible with the latest version of Better Cities, and it uses the same layout as in BC. It is, as Tom mentioned, no longer supported, so it might eventually become incompatible with BC. Just like BC, it's an FPS killer - you should have at least 2 GB of RAM and a decent video card or your system will bog around the cities.

The only way they are compatible is if you use different mods for different cities... you can have BC Anvil and OBC Skingrad in the same load order, but never BC Anvil and OBC Anvil, or any of the merged plugins with all the cities.

» Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:32 pm

Sufficient is relative. It is about what kind of performance hit you are willing to take. I say try it out, and if you find the changes are worth it, play it out.

Edit: The "3" in 4350 makes me want to say: "Go light on the texture replacers..." But, if you have 1GB, who cares. BC hits your CPU harder. The GPU gets eaten up by combining it with the other visual enhancers. It adds content, but, by itself, your CPU is the one that suffers the most.

» Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:03 pm

Sufficient is relative. It is about what kind of performance hit you are willing to take. I say try it out, and if you find the changes are worth it, play it out.

Edit: The "3" in 4350 makes me want to say: "Go light on the texture replacers..." But, if you have 1GB, who cares. BC hit your CPU harder. The GPU gets eaten up by combining it with the other visual enhancers. It adds content, but, by itself, your CPU is the one that suffers the most.

From What I just read that card is Passive(IE: no fan) watch your Temps. Just sayin..BG

» Sun Aug 08, 2010 8:19 pm

From What I just read that card is Passive(IE: no fan) watch your Temps. Just sayin..BG

Okay, go really light on the texture replacers then, and toss all of the FPS Patches for BC in there as well...

» Sun Aug 08, 2010 7:17 pm

CPU should be fine. Quad core and I used the ini tweaks to optimize oblivion for multicore soo...

I'll be replacing my video card some time soon anyway. . .

» Sun Aug 08, 2010 2:50 pm

Quad core and I used the ini tweaks to optimize oblivion for multicore soo...

Placebo. Those settings do absolutely nothing.

» Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:37 am

Placebo. Those settings do absolutely nothing.

Really? As a quad core owner It got me really interested for a second.

» Sun Aug 08, 2010 6:37 pm

Really. The guys on the OBSE team did some poking around and discovered the game either ignores the settings entirely, or reads them and does nothing to act on them. It's documented in one of the OSR threads somewhere.

» Sun Aug 08, 2010 9:07 am

Oh well, it still runs fine

Got it installed and it hasn't had a massive effect on fps.