[RELz/Beta] Open Cities Reborn : IV - Oblivion

» Sat May 21, 2011 2:26 pm

Hmm. Not sure what I was thinking there but it'll be gone on the next update.

» Sat May 21, 2011 4:46 am

I'll have a look at the luggage thing and see where it ends up. I might be able to fudge something as long as the Luggage is not tied to a parent object in COBL.

There is a mod called http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=23854 and it does require the http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=21104 mod, because it depends on the http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1104955-relz-cobl-no16/ (Cobl Glue.esp) mod.

If both the Cobl Wells and the Luggage has dependency of Cobl Glue you could have the luggage to be near a Cobl-placed well.

» Sat May 21, 2011 10:53 am

Ok. Was taking a closer look at the Diverse Guards thing. Not going to be possible to drop the patches because switching guards back to getting new AI packs would break every last one of the base records in the Diverse Guards mod, since they can't use markers that don't exist and it would be far too impractical to fix it to actually be so. So it looks like the sea of patches for that is going to have to stand.

» Sat May 21, 2011 2:45 am

I'll have a look at the luggage thing and see where it ends up. I might be able to fudge something as long as the Luggage is not tied to a parent object in COBL.

There is a mod called http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=23854 and it does require the http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=21104 mod, because it depends on the http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1104955-relz-cobl-no16/ (Cobl Glue.esp) mod.

If both the Cobl Wells and the Luggage has dependency of Cobl Glue you could have the luggage to be near a Cobl-placed well.

:blush: I forgot to tell you about the http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=19348 and I think you should know all the facts if OCR-Anvil requires a patch.

» Sat May 21, 2011 4:49 am

Ok. Was taking a closer look at the Diverse Guards thing. Not going to be possible to drop the patches because switching guards back to getting new AI packs would break every last one of the base records in the Diverse Guards mod, since they can't use markers that don't exist and it would be far too impractical to fix it to actually be so. So it looks like the sea of patches for that is going to have to stand.

Could I not have a (single) patch as part of DG that replicates the appropriate changes in the vanilla guards in the corresponding DG guards?

» Sat May 21, 2011 10:39 am

Yes, it would need to use the conditional AI system and you'd need to place markers of your own if you wanted to go that route, but it can be done. Hopefully the modders info doc is enough to explain how to do that, if not, feel free to ask.

» Sat May 21, 2011 3:28 pm

I seem to have a problem with the Outer Districts portion of the mod. I can't enter the Arcane University. Instead I'm greeted with a solid slate grey granite wall where the door should be. I have quite a large modlist with many mods affecting the area but I'm certain I have all the required patches so I'm stumped as to why this is happening. Here is my load order:

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Is it possible I'm missing something or will I have to do without this part of the mod? The mod works brilliantly everywhere else and combined with FCOM Enhanced Daedric Invasion it's created some great encounters. On one occasion at Anvil a Lesser Balrog marched on the city gate prompting a desperate fight between myself, Vilya and the Anvil guard against it. One of the most epic moments I've encountered in the game so far.

Artorius

» Sat May 21, 2011 2:44 pm

I seem to have a problem with the Outer Districts portion of the mod. I can't enter the Arcane University. Instead I'm greeted with a solid slate grey granite wall where the door should be. I have quite a large modlist with many mods affecting the area but I'm certain I have all the required patches so I'm stumped as to why this is happening.

Dang: I did the same thing at one point - wish I could remember exactly what. But I do recall that it was my mistake of failing to install some part of the mod or something - with the exact same result. So I suggest reinstalling it, being careful to install everything you need.

It's not a mod conflict of error in the mod itself, I'm pretty sure, at any rate. :celebration:

» Sat May 21, 2011 9:15 am

You need to be sure you allow the meshes provided by Open Cities to install. Among the collision optimized pieces are also pieces that allow you to walk through a short tunnel into the AU, without a door.

If those resources are in fact installed, make sure you're archive invalidation setup is working properly so the OC assets will override the game's normal BSA content.

» Sat May 21, 2011 12:49 pm

You need to be sure you allow the meshes provided by Open Cities to install. Among the collision optimized pieces are also pieces that allow you to walk through a short tunnel into the AU, without a door.

If those resources are in fact installed, make sure you're archive invalidation setup is working properly so the OC assets will override the game's normal BSA content.

I managed to get it working thanks to your tip on archive invalidation, when I checked it in OBMM I didn't have meshes ticked, when I did that and updated it, the tunnel was there after reloading my game.

Thanks for your help.

» Sat May 21, 2011 4:10 am

I'll have a look at the luggage thing and see where it ends up. I might be able to fudge something as long as the Luggage is not tied to a parent object in COBL.

While I was setting up my game again I took a look myself.
The Luggage starts out under the sidewalk on to the west of the dock. (Specifically location -195467, -32716, 282)
I just moved it to sit on the very end of the dock, and so far it seems to be working just fine there. It is only a starting position for the player to find it anyway. From then on it appears at set locations (mainly in defined position in player owned homes) as the player goes to them.

» Sat May 21, 2011 2:26 am

Duplicate chapel went away with the update to UOP, ...

... and then it came back!

No, I didn't remove UOP 3.2.10, but something changed the object scales that the UOP Open Cities script checks. I had 0.75 on "Benirus Manor Haunted" and 1.01 on the "Chorrol For Sale Sign" which are almost the exact inverse of what it expected. Prid, setscale cured it, of course, but I'm trying to track down what might have set up the glitch. Both characters I've seen this with had been used with OCC in place prior to changing to OCR, if that's any clue.

» Sat May 21, 2011 7:26 am

The chapels aren't tied in to the scale hacks, so that shouldn't have mattered. The chapels are just injected formIDs so that the UOPS and OCR/OCC are modifying the same object rather than clones of the same object.

» Sat May 21, 2011 1:32 am

A quick question regarding Open Cities Reborn - Anvil and Clocks of Cyrodiil.

I have the full Open Cities Reborn installed and have had major problems trying to get COC working properly in Anvil, , despite using the patch. The Anvil town clock stubbornly stayed floating 30 feet up, presumably in its vanilla location attached to the Mages' Guild.

I finally managed to move it by uninstalling COC and the OC-COC patch, doing a clean save, waiting out the respawn period away from Anvil, reinstalling COC + patch (but not the normal COC esp) then walking back to the town.

However the clock is now embedded in a granite slab in front of the town gates. Is this normal? visually it looks OK but, in view of my previous problems I checked out the Anvil Mages' Guild interior. Sure enough the clock internal mechanism is still there on the top floor of the Mages' Guild (above a bed).

So, is the new location in the granite slab correct or is my game still messed up? if the location is correct I can live with the slight anomaly in the Mages' Guild.

The other Open Cities Reborn town clocks seem OK.

» Sat May 21, 2011 2:51 am

Odd, but not entirely unexpected. Persistent objects have a habit of refusing to toggle their enable states once you've encountered them. Sometimes waiting for the cell reset time helps.

Yes, the clock for OCR Anvil is on a granite slab in the middle of the plaza by the tree. I forgot to toggle out the mechanisms inside the Mages Guild though.

» Sat May 21, 2011 2:12 am

Odd, but not entirely unexpected. Persistent objects have a habit of refusing to toggle their enable states once you've encountered them. Sometimes waiting for the cell reset time helps.

Yes, the clock for OCR Anvil is on a granite slab in the middle of the plaza by the tree. I forgot to toggle out the mechanisms inside the Mages Guild though.

All good. Thanks for the response Arthmoor.

» Sat May 21, 2011 4:28 am

Just wanted to pop in and say how much I love your mod. I never added any city mods until I decided to try this one a couple of days ago. It's gorgeous. And I just LOVE the flags. It gives the cities even more atmosphere IMO. Anvil was always my vanilla favorite. With your mod, it is fantastic! And I even love Leyawinn now. It is jaw dropping

Thanks for sharing it with us all

» Sat May 21, 2011 8:23 am

Fantastic mod.

One little aestetical issue: OCR played with OOO get "wilderness report" papers in the middle-air around the cities. Any suggest or patch ?

One little thought: using http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=20555 for 1 (or more) city ? OCR is just amazing but will be even more amazing with Siika Cathedral

» Sat May 21, 2011 11:32 am

There's a link to the patches in the OP, one of which should handle the fliers from OOO.

I'd dearly love to use one of those cathedrals but it would necessarily mean altering the interior of the chapel as well and that's not something I want to do with OCR.

» Sat May 21, 2011 7:23 am

There's a link to the patches in the OP, one of which should handle the fliers from OOO.

I just tryed the OCC-OOO-Patch.esp, but it's 100% well suited only for OCC, not OCR. The "wilderness report" papers remain in the middleair around the cities (just: Anvil,Bravil,Bruma) anyway :sadvaultboy:

I'd dearly love to use one of those cathedrals but it would necessarily mean altering the interior of the chapel as well and that's not something I want to do with OCR.

No prob Arthmoor

this mods is a must-have for me very good work ! I love cities flags movement from distance !

» Sat May 21, 2011 12:35 pm

Quick question needs a quick fix:
Where's the AI door in Skingrad?!?! :huh: While we're at it, where is it in the other cities (those not mentionned in the ReadMe, which I read...)?

I just switched from Classic to Reborn and I am not disapointed. Of course, I still have low FPS but that's between me and my CPU --we'll have a talk about divorcing in a few years when money falls from the sky... like that will happen! I prefer to tolerate those FPS than ignore those beautiful cities.

» Sat May 21, 2011 6:34 am

Yeah, I probably should have left those in the readme until those cities are updated:

Cheydinhal: In the castle area between the well and the guard barracks tower, along the wall.
Chorrol: On the back side of the castle, directly south of the guard tower.
Skingrad: Near the horse statue on the north side, between the red tree and the archery targets.
SKingrad Castle Courtyard: Tucked against the wall immediately to the right as you come through the gate.

» Sat May 21, 2011 5:49 am

When using bg2408's Integration and Open Cities Reborn do I use both the OCR-Anvil patch and the Integration-OC patch or just the OCR-Anvil patch?

» Sat May 21, 2011 4:27 am

You need to use both. The OCR-Anvil patch corrects path grids in Anvil. The other patch does a bunch of other stuff elsewhere and can be used with OCR or OCC.

» Sat May 21, 2011 3:36 am

Open Cities Reborn v0.6.3 - WiP Beta

* All: Syncronized quest patches from the latest UOP Supplemental.
* All: VWD textures have been stripped of unnecessary alpha channels.
* Leyawiin: Fixed all of the nirnroots that had to be moved so that they aren't left floating in their old positions if you'd visited the area before installing OCR.
* Anvil: One of the collision corrected meshes for the Anvil castle was still missing.
* Collision optimization on all included meshes.
* Bartholm: Eranyon needed an AI pack update for when he waits at the Arcane University for the player if the Outer Districts module is in use.
* Bartholm: Filthy Felix needed an AI pack update for when he sells Hot Dog in Bravil.
* Skingrad: The castle wall piece with corrected collision had the wrong havok material setting.

The project isn't dead folks, I have walls ready to fly for Chorrol but still need to dream up a nice layout for it. Hopefully once the inspirational spark strikes it won't be long. When that starts, there won't be an update until it's done, for obvious reasons.

I'll probably also skip the version ahead to 0.8 once Chorrol is in, with Cheydinhal being 0.9 since Skingrad isn't getting an overhaul. That's not to say Skingrad won't ever get modified in some way, it's just not going to get the major treatment since it's more or less already a unique layout.

I do still need wall assets for Cheydinhal though, so I'll once more beg and plead for some sort of help, or pointers to wall resources I might have missed. There's so much stuff out there I might simply not have seen it.