[RELz/Beta] Open Cities Reborn

Post » Fri May 20, 2011 3:32 am

Open Cities Reborn

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=33003
http://www.invision.tesalliance.org/forums/index.php?/files/file/540-open-cities-reborn-06-beta/
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=32925
For those who want accurate maps: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=31339 includes the correct Leyawiin.

Screenshots are available at Nexus and TESA. 26 links is a bit much to muster up :)

Open Cities Reborn takes the concept of Open Cities and steps it up to the next level. The project aims to redesign each city covered by the original Open Cities in such a way that would make more sense strategically. This will revolve around having the castles be the central structure of each city with the layout altered to put the housing, shops, and cathedrals around them. Where possible, Bethesda's concept art is being used to follow the layouts. Where none is available, I have exercised my own creativity. The city walls in each affected city will also be modified to suit the environment. For example, Bruma will now have wooden palisades instead of ginormous brick walls. The idea behind this is that with the cities in the open worldspace, they should be visible behind the walls. The primary reason for such tall walls wasn't for realism, it was to block out the unpopulated closed city spaces behind them.

For reasons of compatibility and lore, Kvatch will not be affected in any way. The Imperial City will also remain untouched, for obvious reasons.

To get the most out of these changes, it is highly recommended to download http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=19628. This is the evolution of Texian's Window Lighting System and is fully compatible with Open Cities Reborn.

To go with that, and provide LOD for all the new goodies, I also recommend: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=20053. Just be aware that there's a bit of a performance hit in activating all the extra LOD that Open Cities will provide that's directly proportional to the power of your PC, and how many other mods you have installed.

NOTE: Currently Chorrol, Cheydinhal, and Skingrad have not yet been touched but are included for completeness. They will be replaced with their redesigned versions as time permits and resources are acquired to do the work.

Open Cities: New Sheoth

"Cat's out of the bag! Why do people put cats in bags? Cats hate bags." - Lord Sheogorath

Continuing in the tradition, if it could be called that, of Open Cities, I bring you Open Cities: New Sheoth. The first, last, best, and worst, Open Cities mod for the Shivering Isles. Madness has never been so much fun!

The twin cities of Bliss and Crucible have been transferred from their own individual worldspaces out into the SEWorld worldspace, which is SI's equivalent of being in the Tamriel worldspace. Though it may seem somewhat silly given the small size of both cities, the results are still pretty good. Everything blends in with the immediate surroundings of the cities so if you didn't know any better.....

As with other Open Cities mods I feel this adds greater realism to the cities by not having to transition from one outdoor worldspace into another. It may seem silly but give it a shot. It really does enhance the gameplay by quite a bit.

I would like to give a big thank you shout out to Sjors_Boomscors, without him this project would have died on the table a long time ago without every really having a chance. It was because of his help in getting some critical model work done that I was able to proceed even after he moved on to other things.

The New Sheoth module obviously requires Shivering Isles.

Since New Sheoth is a fortified city on purpose, it will remain intact as-is and is only being included here for convenience.

Installation Requirements

Official Oblivion patch version 1.2.406.
Shivering Isles patch 1.2.0.416 required for the New Sheoth module.
Bartholm 7.0+ is required to use the open cities version of that city. (http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=5022)

The Quick Install

Ok, for those of you who want to just jump right in, Open Cities Reborn is packaged as a BAIN archive for easy setup. That was probably somewhat obvious though :)

00 Core - All files here are required.
01 Anvil Reborn Resources - These files are required if you want to install Anvil Reborn.
02 Bruma Reborn Resources - These files are required if you want to install Bruma Reborn.
03 Leyawiin Reborn Resources - These files are required if you want to install Leyawiin Reborn.

Landscape LOD compatibility:

05 Compatibility - Anvil Reborn + Castle Seaview + UL Lost Coast LOD
05 Compatibility - Anvil Reborn + Castle Seaview LOD
05 Compatibility - Anvil Reborn + UL Lost Coast LOD

Use one of the above depending on which of those mods you have installed. If you don't have them, don't install anything from 05.

For modular installs:

10 Individual Cities - Install the cities you want opened from here.

For merged installs:

15 Full Merged - Pick this if you want all of the cities opened. Do not install anything out of folder 10 in this case.

For either install:

20 Road Record - Corrects NPC pathing while taking into account that the cities are no longer closed, and adjusting for the different layouts.
This will not be of much value if you are only installing individual cities, if that is the case, it is most important to use with Leyawiin as NPCs will die otherwise.

30 Outer Districts - If you want the Prison and Arcane University opened as well, install this folder's contents.

40 Bartholm - If you have J.Sera's Bartholm 7.0+, you can elect to have the city opened with this.

50 New Sheoth - If you have Shivering Isles, this will turn Bliss and Crucible into open cities.

If you installed the road record, rebuild your Bashed Patch and import the road record file using "Import Roads". Saves having to eat an activation slot for it.

Then just activate the rest of the files and you're off and running.

For those of you who want a bit more detail for installations, or prefer manually installing, read on:

Installation - Switching From Open Cities Classic

You will need to first remove *ALL* files associated with Open Cities Classic in order to use these new layouts and perform a clean save, including the ESM file. It does not matter which version of OCC you are using, failure to follow this procedure properly will result in major anomolies. If I hear about seeing braziers where guards are trying to stand, and tales of Ayleid ruin towers where a building should be, I'll know you didn't do this right.

The procedure is as follows:

* Load your game, and move to a location away from any of the cities. Don't use an interior attached to a city for this. Save and exit the game.
* Deactivate any patches you installed for other mods first. Load your game, then save in a new slot and exit the game.
* Remove the patch ESPs from your Data folder. Keep them somewhere safe if you want, but they need to be out of the way.
* Deactivate the city plugins, and the ESM file. Load the save you just made and save again in another new slot.
* Uninstall Open Cities Classic from the game, either manually or by using BAIN. Make sure the plugin files are gone once you do this.
* Rebuild your Bashed Patch if you have one, as it is possible it may have pulled records from the plugins.

Once you've done that, proceed with normal installation as outlined below.

Installation - New or Existing Game, First Time User

Main Components:

* As a precaution, backup your saved games. You never know.
* Unpack the files from the archive into a new folder. Don't just blindly dump into your Data folder. It won't work.
* Just in case, if installing to an existing save, make sure you are not standing outdoors in a city.
* Copy everything from the "00 Core Resources" folder into your Data folder now.
* Copy the ESP file or files you wish to use, based on which cities you intend to play with.
You MUST be sure you are not using more than one of the same city! Failure to observe this will result in FPS eating duplication of EVERYTHING in the city.
The "Open Cities Reborn - Full Merge.esp" in the "15 Full Merge" folder contains them all, so if that's what you want, don't install the other individual city files.
If individual cities are what you want, then pick those from the "10 Individual Cities" folder. There should be one each for the vanilla cities.

Optional Components:

* If you want the IC Outer Districts, you need to copy everything from the "30 Outter Districts" folder into your Data folder now.
* If you want New Sheoth, copy everything from the "50 New Sheoth" folder into your Data folder now.
* If you want Bartholm to be open, copy the ESP file from the "40 Bartholm" folder into your Data folder now. Make sure you already have Bartholm 6.0 installed first.

At this point you should be ready to activate the plugins. You should consult the load order section for tips, or just use BOSS to take care of that for you.

* Install any needed compatibility patches.
* Rebuild your Bashed Patch if you have one. It's possible it may need to pull records from the plugins you're using now.

When you get done, it is highly recommended that you update your LOD using tes4lodgen if you are using RAEVWD so that the rearranged city layouts will be correct from a distance.

Once the game loads, you need to allow 24 game hours to pass for AI to fully update in each city.

Once the main mod is settled, you need to upgrade any patches you are using for other mods.
Get those files here: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=32925 or here:

Uninstalling Open Cities Reborn

Oh, now why would you want to go and do a thing like that? :)

But, since this isn't going to be for everyone, and you may decide you don't like what it does, the following procedure needs to be followed to remove the mod:

* Load your game, and move to a location away from any of the cities. Don't use an interior attached to a city for this. Save and exit the game.
* Deactivate any patches you installed for other mods first. Load your game, then save in a new slot and exit the game.
* Remove the patch ESPs from your Data folder.
* Deactivate the city plugins, and the ESM file. Load the save you just made and save again in another new slot.
* Uninstall Open Cities Reborn from the game, either manually or by using BAIN. Make sure the plugin files are gone once you do this.
* Rebuild your Bashed Patch if you have one, as it is possible it may have pulled records from the plugins.
* Regenerate your LOD so the proper visuals are restored.

You will need to allow 24 game hours to pass for AI to recover.

Modularization

Open Cities is entirely modular. If all you want is Anvil, then Anvil it is. If you want Chorrol, then you can have that too. Want three cities from this pack and two more from another city overhaul? That's possible as well. Have one of those not so strong systems that the Outer Districts module brings to its knees? Then simply don't activate that module. Since quests and AI have been sufficiently isolated by Bethesda, you can mix and mach any combination of city mods you want so long as you don't install a duplicate.

Load Order

Open Cities Reborn is stable and has given plenty of people trouble-free play. But it is still wise and proper to observe some load order placement to get the best experience possible out of it, as well as avoiding any potential conflicts that might result in crashes.

I would strongly recommend the use of BOSS: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=20516 to manage your load order. All of the Open Cities Reborn files and patches should be supported by the current version. If you prefer to manage by hand, read on :)

First off, it's best if the cities you're going to use are all set to load late in your order. The later the better, but it's not always possible ( or best ) to load right before your bashed patch if you have one. The main reason for this is because OCR makes major alterations to both landscape and path grids. Both of these types of records are winner-take-all, and anything loading later that alters the same records will severely distort your pretty new cities. Or send your NPCs to their deaths. Neither of which is fun.

Weather mods such as All Natural, Natural Interiors, Weather Inside, or any other mod altering interior cell climate/weather behavior need to be tagged with an appropriate Wrye Bash tag and the data imported into your Bashed Patch. This is usually accomplished with the C.Climate tag. If in doubt, ask. Someone should be able to provide an answer. Manually moving files like this too far down in your load order can cause other unrelated problems to occur.

Open Cities Reborn should load *AFTER* any of the Unique Landscapes mods. Landscaping and path grids near the cities will need to take priority. If conflicts such as land tears remain, these will need to be corrected with ESP patches. Please report any such conditions with a full accounting of your load order so they can be investigated.

Open Cities Reborn needs to load after Knights of the Nine, and any patches affecting it such as the UOMP and SM Plugins Refurbished.

Strictly speaking, overhauls such as OOO, MMM, Frans, and by extension FCOM should not be load order dependent with Open Cities Reborn. Usually these overhauls will load well before Open Cities Reborn anyway due to their own requirements.

Open Cities Reborn should be loaded after any mods which make changes to the following quests:

Nocturnal's daedric artifact quest.
Dark Brotherhood quest "A Knife in the Dark"
Dark Brotherhood quest "Affairs of a Wizard"
Dark Brotherhood quest "A Kiss Before Dying"
Dark Brotherhood quest "Following a Lead"
Dark Brotherhood quest "Whispers of Death"
Mages Guild quest "A Plot Revealed"
Main Quest "Defense of Bruma"
Side quest "Caught in the Hunt"
Side quest "A Brotherhood Betrayed"
Side quest "A Brush with Death"
Side quest "Paranoia"
Thieves Guild quest "Lost Histories"

The reason for this is because these quests have targets within the cities that needed to be changed or they would be pointing to the wrong worldspaces, leading to confusion even though the quests themselves would not be broken.

Known Issues

There is another set of doors behind the ones that swing open on X city

This is a highly frustrating bug in the Oblivion game engine when dealing with persistent objects. It is causes by reloading the game without completely exiting to the desktop. Exiting to the main menu is *NOT* enough to bypass the problem. For whatever reason, the game will restore the positions of the city gates despite the mod clearly telling the game to push them far underground. When this happens, the only solution is to save, exit completely to the desktop, and then reload. It is therefore highly recommended that you use a mod such as FastExit2 (http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=22410) in order to be able to exit quickly when needed.

Duplicate chapels in Anvil

Update your UOP with the UOP Supplemental, v3.2.9 or above. (http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=27710)

Game crash right after facegen

Update "Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp" with the new version: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=27710

Floating rock next to Anvil Castle bridge

It belongs to the Thieves' Den DLC. Use the console to disable it as it serves no purpose and making a patch to delete a single rock is a collosal waste of an ESP slot.

But there are MORE ROCKS floating there!!!

You probably use TIE. Update to version 1.36 or higher to resolve the rest of the rogue rocks and other items in the harbor.

TIE NPCs are not visiting the cities

Update to TIE 1.36 or higher.

Tamriel Travelers NPCs don't visit the cities

AI support in TT is pending an update from Corepc. In the meantime, the NPCs will be unavailable on the days they should be visiting the cities. They resume their normal schedules in the wilderness afterward.

In "Big Business", Bauggi goes to Anvil and then vanishes

He has an AI pack set to send him to Anvil, possibly just for the realism effect. He does nothing once there though, so fixing it isn't important. Just wait for him to come back out and return to your farm.

Troubleshooting Problems

If you have a problem with an Open Cities mod and wish to report it, I'd appreciate as much information as possible, preferably in the form of a screenshot with console data showing if it's something that can be screened. The FormID of the affected object would help greatly to narrow down any problems that might result. Post this information along with your load order. Reports with less than detailed information may result in delays in getting it fixed, or result in being ignored entirely. It helps everyone to provide details. I am especially interested in verifiable conflicts, as I wish for Open Cities to be as conflict-free as is humanly possible given the circumstances. If the situation requires a patch, I can only work something out if I know what to look for.

Locations of AI Doors

The AI doors are entry ways into the closed wordspaces should it become necessary. Not everything that is placed in a city by a mod is worth the time it takes to create a patch. Mods that drop items for a one-time pickup are a good example of this. It's much easier to just go through the door, get what you need, then exit the city as normal.

Anvil: Next to the abandoned house in the southeast corner of the city.
Bravil: In the garden area immediately outside the castle in the NW corner.
Bruma: A small snow rock in the castle courtyard area, in the northeast corner.
Leyawiin Reborn: In the castle area, along the wall near the guard barracks.
New Sheoth - Bliss: Small rock cluster next to the entry to Sheogorath's Palace, right in front of the barrel.
New Sheoth - Crucible: At the bottom of the stairs to the palace, on the ledge next to the sewer grate.
Bartholm: Along the south city wall, directly behind Rufus' house.
Arcane University: On the west side, along the wall, right across from the well.
Prison District: Also on the west side, next to the wall, to the left of the practice target.

Use of the AI doors to reach the closed worldspaces may present some problems with the differences in landscape height. Objectives may be buried or floating overhead. In cases like this, use the console to turn off collision long enough to get there.

Performance and FPS

Rumors continue to persist about Open Cities being an FPS killer. In and of itself, Open Cities will not represent a significant hit to your gaming performance. If you are playing the stock game, with stock graphics, go run around near the Imperial City, then around Chorrol. Measure the performance you get. Add Open Cities, and perform the same test again. The Imperial City will remain unchanged, and your trip around Chorrol will see a minimal impact of 3-5 frames. In other words, if your system is low end, it'll still feel low end after installing Open Cities. If you have a midrange to high end system, installing Open Cities will not be a noticeable drain on your resources.

The problem most people have is that they're not playing in a stock configuration. They load up a bunch of graphical enchancers ( guilty as charged! ) and a ton of graphically heavy mods, all at the same time. So suddenly trips around the Imperial City are a bit sluggish, and that trip around Chorrol is bogging things down. In the process of adding mods, they not only activated huge memory sinks like QTP3, but also activated a large set of LOD mods, FCOM, 18 quest mods, a lighting overhaul, a weather overhaul, and higher quality sound files. So when the game slows down, it takes all of two seconds of "OC is an FPS killer" and people believe it, because, by coincidence, removing it results in what they think is smoother play. However, removing any one of the other elements would have done the same. Bog the system down with enough stuff, it will buckle. There are tradeoffs to be had. I am aware of how this may sound, but in the grand scheme of things, Open Cities is not the FPS killer everyone says it is. Do yourself a favor and be objective enough to try it first and see for yourself before believing some random forum poster. The vast majority of the negative attention was from 2006. We're entering 2009. The mod has been trimmed and polished a lot since then. Systems have also evolved considerably at the same time.

That said, there may be some additional load placed on your game if you install the new Outer Districts module. Sjors has provided me with some updated collision optimized meshes to use for the large walls and towers that enclose the two districts. Without them, there was significant lag while in the Arcane University and slight lag while in the Prison. After the optimized meshes were installed and tested, the lag is all but gone and it's about as smooth for me as it is to be in the closed versions of these districts. That does not mean however that your experience will be the same. These districts are made up of large high detail meshes. A low end machine struggling with the Imperial City in general is going to have trouble here as well. Midrange PCs may see some significant additional lag. Higher end PCs should notice little if any difference, but this will depend greatly on both your CPU and GPU. Visible images tax the GPU. Collision meshes tax the CPU due to the Havok physics involved. Be prepared for some tradeoffs. The Imperial City has always been and will likely continue to be a resource hog whether or not you fling them open to the world.

Credits

Texian & Godhugh for the original groundwork on the Open Cities mods. A hell of a lot of work went into that and I've only built upon it.
Wormheart for the working city gate resources.
Sjors Boomscors for providing optimized and corrected meshes for the Outer Districts module.
J. Sera for allowing me to produce an Open Cities extension for Bartholm.
Fearrabbit for providing the retexture and LOD for the new lighthouse in Leyawiin Reborn.
Vorians and Ismelda for being cooperative on sharing compatibility tricks we can both use in each other's mods.
Firespark for the flags flying over each city's castle.
Open Cities users everywhere, for being patient enough to put up with my bumbling efforts to get things right. Maybe one day I finally will :)

Licensing and Legal

Redistribution is strictly forbidden without prior consent. This means do not upload it anywhere unless you have obtained permission from both myself (Arthmoor) *AND* godhugh.

Non-English translation versions may be uploaded without permission on the following conditions:

1. All mod files contained in this archive are retained with their current names.
2. No alterations are made to the contents of the plugins or master file other than those necessary to translate the English text.
3. No alterations or additions are made to the meshes and textures other than those necessary to translate English text.
4. This readme is included, in ENGLISH, exactly as it is written in the version it was downloaded with.
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Post » Fri May 20, 2011 5:25 am

* Changes made to Leyawiin in this package (from previously available version):
+ Relocated the stables to the peninsula next to the docks. It was previously in an unsafe location.
+ Added interiors to the two ships on the docks. No crew yet exists, but you can poke around inside if you want.
+ Smoothed over some nasty landscape bumps, adjusted some trees, and cleaned up landscape texturing in general.
+ Straightened out the road exiting the northeast gate to return it more to how the vanilla version was.
+ Removed the useless stable cover outside the NE gate and stuck a nice tree there instead.
+ Updated the landscape LOD to account for the changes.
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 9:35 pm

congratz on the Relz! downloaded from TESA, looking forward to playing them, as ive never plaed Open Cities before.
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Post » Fri May 20, 2011 4:15 am

NOTE: Currently Chorrol, Cheydinhal, and Skingrad have not yet been touched but are included for completeness. They will be replaced with their redesigned versions as time permits and resources are acquired to do the work.

Could I ask for a little clarification on what this means. Do you mean that you have included the Open Cities Classic versions of these cities with this? Thanks.
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Post » Fri May 20, 2011 12:14 am

Yes, the classic versions are included simply for the sake of a complete package of open cities. Though Skingrad is likely to get nothing more than a wall mesh replacement since I like its layout well enough as-is.
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 10:43 pm

Thanks for the reply, and for the great mods :)

I've never had the guts to try any of the Open Cities or Better Cities before, but after I saw the pictures of Bravil & Anvil on your work in progress for this one I knew I'd wait until that was out before trying em :) I really love how only the castle in Bravil has the walls around it now, looks so great.
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Post » Fri May 20, 2011 9:29 am

Awesome, looking forward to trying this. Were any of the patches specifically updated for the redesigned layouts or, if I have the latest versions that worked with OC Classic, will those work with Reborn?
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Post » Fri May 20, 2011 6:58 am

DL'ed. I was just wondering if you have any texture packs in the screenshots?
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Post » Fri May 20, 2011 6:18 am

I've been looking forward to this for a long time :bowdown:

Some comments/issues:

Noticably improved framerates in Bruma and Bravil. Probably from removing the huge walls.
The giant flags look cool, don't listen to the people who complained about them in the old topic.
Perhaps in the future you will add ladders to the watch towers in Bruma?
Integration makes a mess of the Anvil path grids, and according to tes4edit some landscape too (though I didn't see any tears in game).
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Post » Fri May 20, 2011 2:42 am

Awesome, looking forward to trying this. Were any of the patches specifically updated for the redesigned layouts or, if I have the latest versions that worked with OC Classic, will those work with Reborn?


All of the patches had to be updated for one reason or another. Best to just go download another copy to be safe. Also, on that note, HoD and TIE should both be getting updated releases soon which will correct their support for Open Cities.

DL'ed. I was just wondering if you have any texture packs in the screenshots?


The main one is QTP3 Redimized, but there's also numerous other stuff for clutter, plants, trees, clothing, you name it, my game probably has a retex of some sort for it.

Some comments/issues:

Noticably improved framerates in Bruma and Bravil. Probably from removing the huge walls.


Which is interesting. Bruma I can't really explain beyond the loss of the large walls. Bravil gets hurt bad though if you have the Barrowfields UL, possibly because the walls there were shielding me from the effects of the clutter around the city.

The giant flags look cool, don't listen to the people who complained about them in the old topic.


You have no idea what this means to me :)

Perhaps in the future you will add ladders to the watch towers in Bruma?


You know that nagging feeling you get that you're forgetting something? This is one of those things. I'll try and remember to get those added, though NPCs won't be able to use the towers unfortunately. I tried getting them to like the one in Feldscar but the game kept putting them back on the ground.

Integration makes a mess of the Anvil path grids, and according to tes4edit some landscape too (though I didn't see any tears in game).


Hazard of the trade I guess. That's probably not something I can easily fix because if it only affects one city, adding path grids for it would disrupt things for folks *NOT* using OCR. Unless I cook up a separate patch just for that issue.
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Post » Fri May 20, 2011 8:00 am

Arthmoor, this really is awesome. Thanks for all the work!

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Post » Fri May 20, 2011 3:00 am

Oeh Im definitely gonna try out OCR:New Sheoth! :) In Tamriel the use of Open Cities would put too much strain on my system but in the Shivering Isles it's not an issue. And I've always hated the fact that the entire city was cut off from itself. Good work. :D
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Post » Fri May 20, 2011 7:13 am

Congratulations on the release, thanks for all your hard work! I've really been looking forward to this, thank you :)

When starting a new game if you are using "Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp" you need to have the updated version available at http://www.tesnexus....le.php?id=27710 or the game will crash shortly after exiting the facegen menu.

Didn't realize you had done this, thank you again. A minor thing, but the unofficial patch is tied intricately into my bash patch so it was always a pain to deactivate it on new games.
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Post » Fri May 20, 2011 5:16 am

Unless I cook up a separate patch just for that issue.


Which I now have... on the OCR page. I wondered how long it would be before an exclusive style patch showed up there :)
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Post » Fri May 20, 2011 7:53 am

Congratulations! Now if only TIE 1.36 was available... :D
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Post » Fri May 20, 2011 8:49 am

Yay, finally a mod that makes Bruma look like a mountain town.
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Post » Fri May 20, 2011 1:54 pm

You can still use TIE, you'll just lose all of the in-town traders and some of the stuff in Anvil will be out of place. I hadn't realized Veritas was going to wait on getting 1.36 out, but I didn't really want to wait any longer on this :)
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Post » Fri May 20, 2011 2:19 am

I'm sorry for the off-topic, but after browsing your screenshots of OCR I thought: would you mind telling me/us what graphic enhancements do you use? Particularly, what version of QTP3 am I seeing there? Redimized, some kind of reduced etc?

Thank you.

EDIT: :facepalm: I'm blind today.
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 11:21 pm

I'm sorry for the off-topic, but after browsing your screenshots of OCR I thought: would you mind telling me/us what graphic enhancements do you use? Particularly, what version of QTP3 am I seeing there? Redimized, some kind of reduced etc?

Thank you.

See post #10 for answer ;)
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Post » Fri May 20, 2011 12:36 am

Yes, the classic versions are included simply for the sake of a complete package of open cities. Though Skingrad is likely to get nothing more than a wall mesh replacement since I like its layout well enough as-is.

Thanks Arthmoor for that answer, because I was thinking to install the Open Cities mod earlier before I saw this thread.
Thanks again. :D

I've already have it and it become easier, when I really know of how to use the BAIN feature in Wrye Bash.
Congrats to the release Arthmoor :celebration:
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Nina Mccormick
 
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Post » Fri May 20, 2011 12:36 pm

Yes! :celebration:

It took not long time, thanks for sharing... going to download this.

I hope HoD and Integration are still playable without patches, thought. Otherwise I'll wait until the next relase of Hod and I'll wipe out Integration
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Post » Fri May 20, 2011 3:51 pm

I've been using the NRB+OCLR road record, should I still use that one or should I use the new Open Cities Reborn road record?
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Post » Fri May 20, 2011 2:13 pm

Wow, excellent! I thought we'd be waiting MUCH longer for this. Well done Chief :wub:

1 little question, OCR and UL-CH - is a patch required, the one on the UL-patches page (which is new) seems to be specifically for OCC 3.5+ (sorry if this has been answered in UL thread but I cant find it right now :()
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Post » Fri May 20, 2011 11:58 am

Yes! :celebration:

It took not long time, thanks for sharing... going to download this.

I hope HoD and Integration are still playable without patches, thought. Otherwise I'll wait until the next relase of Hod and I'll wipe out Integration


You'll just need to use the AI door to follow Inar to his bedroll in HoD at the beginning since he'll head to the closed city space. Integration's patch has already been updated.

I've been using the NRB+OCLR road record, should I still use that one or should I use the new Open Cities Reborn road record?


Yes, you'll need the new one from the updated NRB4 that covers OCR.

Wow, excellent! I thought we'd be waiting MUCH longer for this. Well done Chief :wub:

1 little question, OCR and UL-CH - is a patch required, the one on the UL-patches page (which is new) seems to be specifically for OCC 3.5+ (sorry if this has been answered in UL thread but I cant find it right now :()


Well you would be if I'd waited to do the rest :)

The ULCH patch is still valid since Chorrol hasn't been touched yet.
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Post » Fri May 20, 2011 2:06 pm

Well you would be if I'd waited to do the rest :)
The ULCH patch is still valid since Chorrol hasn't been touched yet.

Oh yeah, I had read that, honest :whistling:
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