Not that anyone at either company will see this, but....

I wanted to thank both companies for putting out an utterly unplayable game. I played FO3 for over 400 hours and it is by far my favorite game ever. I have been anticipating NV since it was announced. I picked up my pre-ordered collector's edition at the midnight release. I arranged my work schedule so I'd have a couple of days to play, but....

Well, we all know what happened then. Yes, I've been able to get about 20 hours of frustrating, freezing, glitching, bugged-out, special-ed framerated gameplay. And now I'm stuck until the game is fixed. The new 360 patch...well, if it fixed anything it must have been something very minor. Cuz I still can't play my game. A lot of people still can't play their games. Or have already given up.

From what I've been able to see, this is going to be an amazing game, but only if you get it fixed NOW! In just a few weeks, you're going to lose faithful FO fans to Fable, COD Black Ops, and other anticipated releases because this game is unplayable in it's current state for many players. I'm thinking a month minimum to fix anything of any real importance. By then, I will be playing other games. Maybe even playing FO3 again to get my wasteland fix. Plus I get perks every level in FO3 and the music was better.

I fail to understand how the game ever made it to the shelves in this state. Was it not tested? Or worse, was it shipped with knowledge that the game was poorly QA'd and filled with bugs and glitches? Everyone mid-level management and up should be fired immediately. Anyone in QA should be fired immediately. Allow the programmers and devs remain long enough to fix this POS and then fire them for creating such a poor product to begin with. This was the slam dunk GOTY for 2010 until it was ruined by YOU!

Or maybe just dissolve both companies. After this launch both of your reputations are going to be so bad you will most likely never have another hit game.

In the absence of being able to play my game, how about I get a refund. Or a partial refund. Or some free Microsoft points. Or something. Anything to say you're sorry for knowingly shipping such a broken game. I know this won't happen because you already have our $$. Maybe a class action suit by consumers would do the trick. Any other company that knowingly puts out a defective product is liable, why not a video game company. Repaying that $60-$90 to every consumer who purchased FO:NV might get your attention.

Until then, thanks again for ruining what should have been GOTY, and for once again demonstrating that game developers have no qualms about releasing a piss poor product on a faithful following.

it is from an evolution standpoint a step backwards.

the engine is even more unstable and buggy.

the Mojave Wasteland is lackluster compared to the Capitol Wasteland.

the radio stations are lacking, FO3, had what 12 songs, a little radio drama, entertaining DJ commercial and news. FO:NV has what... 4 songs, a monotone DJ and no radio drama.

The textures as actually worse then in FO3

the main storyline is pretty boring even at it's climix.

the only good news is that the Mojave wasteland is more of a blank canvas for the modding community.

Okay, first off I had none of these noticeable bugs. I could play 10-12 hours before the game would crash. On another pc I saw exorcism bug, bad animations and movement.

Second, if these bugs only happen on certain systems (Windows XP), I don't blame them for spotting them.

Third, Obsidian and Bethesda have always made extremely unstable/buggy games.

Im not going to lie I have never seen so much complaining about a video game in just 4 days in my entire life. Its week ONE people! We havent even made it past week ONE!

So that makes it right? A drug dealer who has always delt drugs is somehow justified? A serial killer is no longer a criminal just because hes done it a lot?

Sorry that dog aint gonna hunt.

It should not have been released at this standard. I've only seen acceptance of cr*p products creeping in with the 'computer' generation....you people have low standards.

I agree that this is a great game, but as a program it's rubbish, as a marketing con it's brilliant.

If Edsel was released by these guys, it would be the world's wonder car, saving mankind from global warming.

Beta testing before release...it's not hard kiddies.

I've not had any problems so far with the game on my budget system on XP SP3 too. The only annoying thing is with the conversation dialogue alternating between loud and soft. Currently on level 8 trying to get past deathclaws on normal and hardcoe difficulty with Boone by my side. Haven't had a single crash, ctd, freeze or game breaking bug clocking in close to 15 hours played on saved game. In fact all my games don't exhibit any troubling anomalies. Here's a good tip: don't install any crap software like registry cleaners, defraggers, window cleaners, themes, other misc crap that modifies your os and don't even bother defragging.

Why pay testers when you can just release it and use the consumers as testers? There's many thousands more of them and they pay you! While I am mildly frustrated with the game, I am more so disappointed with Bethesda. I've come to trust and be loyal to gamesas. This release was a great breach of that loyalty and trust and frankly, I feel a little used. I agree, some people need to be fired. There is absolutely zero possibility that they didn't know these bugs existed. It's just not possible to play at all without seeing some blatantly obvious bugs.

Granted, this is a HUGE game, there are naturally going to be tons of bugs. I'm cool with that, it's unavoidable. But the scope of some of these is enough to create an epic in the true sense of the word (perhaps, aptly named as 'Return to Sender'). That being said, both of these companies have lost serious trust of their users. I will continue to play, but Bethesda's reputation has taken a huge hit. This release was their game breaking glitch.

I mean I'm even afraid to patch my game, due to all the posts. People have glitch free games, patch, then can't play. How embarrassing. Be that as it may, I will continue to play, but I will be more weary of your products in the future. Needless to say, I am no longer, and never will be again, an early adopter of Bethesda or Obsidian products. I wish you guys luck, I know you'll straighten it out, I just hope it is in time. This will be remembered as one of the worst releases ever and is now a permanent blemish on your company record, which makes me sad =(. I love Bethesda. Well, did anyway.

Thanks again, I don't mean to come of too harsh and I only spoke of the negatives. Hopefully none of this needs to be said anyway.

Or there are people like me who has more technical aptitude then 95% of PC users and can easily say this is a development issue. This is the games fault that i crash to desktop. it is the games fault my FPS slows to a crawl in any populated area. it is the games fault objects/creatures/people get all stretched out and bugged. Even saw a guys head through the roof of a building.

it is the games fault it doesn't work, not my machine because i can run any other program/game/application flawlessly. I have literally never had a fraction of the problems with anything else that i have with new Vegas.


Windows 7x64
AMD Phenom II 955 3.2ghz quad core
8 Gig Corsair Dominator 1333 DDR3
Nvidia GTX 480 PCI-E2.0, 260.89 drivers
WD velociraptor 10,000 SATA 3.0 HDD
HT Omega Striker 7.1 PCI sound card.


No reason on planet earth my machine can't just manhandle New Vegas with a hand tied behind it's back.

35 hours with one crash and no other major bugs.

You don't play sports games.

madden 11 anyone?

Exactly. Complain all you want. NV has issues, but this game isn't as bad as people are crying about. It's not "unplayable." It's not like the bugs don't matter, but quit being such drama queens. Also, most of the QQ-ing I see comes from PC users anyway.

Frankly, I find this is pretty standard fare for a videogame forum right after it's release - at least any of the ones that I've followed over the years. As far as the number of bug reports, angry customers venting, etc - it's just about in-line with any other game I've followed the release of.

Perhaps there is a problem with the industry overall, but when a game comes out, there will be bugs. There will be those who can't play it, at all. They will come to the game forum to seek answers and to vent (and what better venue to do so than a place like this?) There's just so many factors, these days, I find it's always kind of a crapshoot whether you'll be able to play a game on release or not. (There was a time when I'd sworn off PC gaming for this reason - until it started happening just as often with my console games...)

For example - I can get a AAA title to run without a hitch on my rig, when others seem to be having troubles. And then when I get something else that "should" be a snap (Puzzle Quest Galactrix being one specific game in recent memory that I wasn't able to play - because of my very specific AMD Chipset, it turned out - for nigh on 6 months after buying it on release day...)

The fact is, people with real bonafide problems are going to be more likely to come around here, at this point. Most of the people not having any issues are busy playing the game. We'll starting hearing more from them as they get far enough into the game to form opinions and such.

Its not a Fallout game if it doesn't have bugs. My only problem has been random crashing. I believe it was a graphics problem because once lowered my resolution it stopped having problems. Nothing is perfect, that's a fact of life. In regards to PCs, everyone's system is different, it may play flawlessly on one person's system and the other persons it can't play period.

So basicially, please just give it a full chance before you make downright innacurate statements.

Really dig your response man ...cool ...and while I agree , here are my two cents ........... With a gaming icon such as the "Fallout" series and all the mythos , wonder , and admiration attached ..wouldn't it seem more logical for a follow up to goty i.e. "Fallout 3" to try a bit harder to up the ante in all aspects ..i.e. the game engine , atmosphere , originality , for me its just sad , and while I think its a fun game it doesn't bring anything new to the table ..I mean they could have added different random garbage to collect even ..but no ..its the same check every box for the same stuff game ..they could have impressed with the size and scope of the cities , they could have cared about overused bland textures ..they could have shuddered at the thought of releasing a game on a 5 year old (at least) game engine whos animations have the feeling and emotion of a mannequin dipped in plastic , covered in wax. .... they could have let us fly !! ...they could have taken some real clues from the mod community which in all fairness it seems they did ..just not enough ...the best games as like great movies are the ones that dont try to please everyone ..but are just great ..heres hoping for a new game engine and the balls to make something truly great and not just try to make money. And the truth has been spoken....Word !!!

NVM- didn't know not to post spoilers here.

I have had only minor issues and I am loving this game so far. I feel bad that others can't enjoy it. But I don't feel bad for those who can't and then start ranting that everyone should be fired.

13 hours and not a single crash or freeze. Decent frame rates. The auto save issue is fixed now. I'm having fun. I guess I'm lucky. I do want more radio stations/songs. If I hear "Big Iron on His Hip" one more time, I'm going to start shooting the radio tower.

same 3 songs over and over is getting a bit old

Same here... but 33 hours.

It's the same engine. The Gamebryo engine has been around for almost 10 years.



Lackluster how?



There are 11 licensed songs in NV.
Ain't That a Kick in the Head?
Big Iron
Blue Moon
It's a Sin to Tell a Lie
Jingle, Jangle, Jingle
Johnny Guitar
Love Me as Though There Were No Tomorrow
Mad About the Boy
Orange Colored Sky
Something's Gotta Give
Why Don't You Do Right? (Get Me Some Money Too!)

There are four songs written by the developers.

There are actually 48 files in the radionv folder.

As for the DJ, you do know that this is supposed to emulate 50's Vegas style, don't you? Ever heard of Frank Sinatra and the Rat Pack? They were the Kings of Cool and they didn't get that reputation by acting like rowdy college kids.



No, it's not.



How was it boring? It had fewer explosions? You could solve quests peacefully? The solutions aren't so obviously black and white? You can't always predict the consequences of your actions? It's more political? It's not a rehash of the story from FO1 and 2?

Your a moderator for this game, your expected to support the party line, and your foolish for doing it. The crap that the company is spewing is utter garbage, this release is fine? Maybe for your el cheapo console babies but not for Pc users, the game is garbage and you and your comapny know it. SDK's are released for a reason, failure to use the maximum compability because time is a problem is a crock. You people are saying its the drivers, we say its you lazyness to completely write code for all hardware, even the barest generic crap code to make the damn game even run.

Not that you care in the least, but as i told bethesda, they have until monday to fix this crap title, at that time i get some very nice folks really interested in this problem pro bono. And i really hope they take it, as my name will be at the top as originator.

By the way, your european forums are pretty hostile too, why is that?