I see no reason to think what and how ZOS should make business. Are you from competition company that you are so interested in this? Go think why vehicle manufacturers do not give vehicles for free. Good luck.

Anyway, I'll stop it here and end with this:

I seriously HOPE I am wrong, truly I do. I want this to succeed.

Time will tell.

Forgive me if I annoyed you as I only voiced my concerns. I also stated more than once that it was my opinion.

Take care and lets stop getting this pinged to the top of the forum.

Bye.

It won't be dead, but it would be so much worse, the content updates would dwindle as well as the major flow of MMO hoppers who moan about everything imaginable.

Seriously? Learn to read, he said "before you bring it up".

Second, I like how you start by saying monetized games are annoying, but end with wanting the game to be monetized. Or do you think F2P games just magically pay for themselves?

There is no point in brawling about that topic now. We can resume in May 2014, when we all have been playing ESO for a while. Until then... well, lets just wait and see what we will get. After that we can judge. OK?

agreed!

I find it more fun to point out to people when they are being the way the OP is. I mean between the name, reading skills, use of logic and insights into mental status and personality of those he responds to, how could I resist?

False equivalence and now you are being juvenile. Yeesh.
I entered because I was curious about how you knew a game had a 'death knell' before release. I was looking for what I was hoping was an informed opinion and that I might learn something from reading it. Turns out I was really, really wrong.

I was merely pointing out that you are misinformed. That isn't something to take offense about, it is simply the truth. So you at least, happen to be less informed than most of those who make these threads. Which means you get a more hostile response from people who are tired of hearing about this subject but are still interested enough to read your opinion, this is the internet. You make a claim about knowing what you are talking about and say the game will fail based on a misinformed opinion. I would be fine with the topic, but you essentially just typed out a wall of meaningless text. I was trying to give you a hint and was implying you should look up some of the information you may have missed, while also trying to help your topic not get derailed. But I guess you would rather derail it further and pretend to know what you are talking about, rather than take the hint that you should do some more research on the game before formulating an opinion about how it will fail because of one thing.

Brilliant. I love the irony of you telling AD to do his research, given how ignorant your OP was. g

Id go into details, but this is already overdue for a lock.

okay guys I think we can stop now . What had to be said was said , while OP might have been wrong about payment model( only time will tell) there is no need to bash him for that.

Hey, dotard, are you trying your best to be stupid?

At no point did he say "before you bring it up" ... So, hey, LEARN TO READ!

LMAO!

Not 'bashing' him for neglecting to do even a basic search beforehand, or even for the oft-repeated insistence that ESO's failure is a given simply because of how we're paying for it, but for his attitude towards those who are pointing these things out.

I DID say that though,

OP, before you bring up GW2

MAybe YOU should read

I never, at any point, said I took offence and nor did I. That day will never come, dear internet warrior.

You're tired and annoyed about such threads yet, you STILL enter into them. Just means your an annoying type of fellow. Do you stick your hand on Wet Paint signs...?

"I made a claim about knowing what I was talking about." Please reply with the actual QUOTE of this, as I never.

Nice try, chief. I can see you evolving with every post...

Yup, you're veen confused about what you're saying yourself... You amuse me. Be my fridge-magnet.

Are you trying to set the record for most ignorant personal insults per post here?

Okay, forget what I said , now it's clear that op is more interested in causing arguments then discussing payment model however pointless it is. Can someone lock this thread .

I thanked people who responded with info. I treated any others the same way they treated me. Quote otherwise or move along, editor of reality.

And just like that folks, my faith in internet humanity waned that much more this day. An internet warrior...lol. I think it is pretty clear whom that title belongs to little demon.

I think this topic is done. I am on mobile, anyone feel like reporting the thing?

And once more - after I tried earlier to end this post by apologising if I annoyed people and hoping I was wrong in my opinions - I will TRY to end this post here.

Ironically, you guys who have kept it going are the culprits.

Your futile arguments have made me laugh while the more mature responders gave me food for thought. You all know what category you fit into.

Bye.

It's been reported. We can but await moderator action.

Locked for flaming. Possible clean up and possible With a double macaroni forever lock.