Orcs don't recognize an orc? : V

» Sun Dec 11, 2011 5:21 am

So my orc battlemage discovered one of the orcish strongholds and I was all exited about meeting more rocs, but they wouldn't let me in!

The were all like 'Oh you are an outsider, our strongholds are only for Orcs!' even though I am an orc!

I mean the big tusks and green skin should give that away right? Are they all nearsighted or is that a bug?

» Sun Dec 11, 2011 1:31 am

yeah aside from nords the races dont tend to recognize each other well modesei is the only argonian ive met to recognize me as an argonian

» Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:39 pm

There is a serious problem with NPCs not recognizing members of their own race in this game. None of the Dunmer in Windhelm recognize me as one of them, and on a former Nord character it drove me nuts that Galmar kept calling me "Unblooded".

» Sun Dec 11, 2011 5:47 am

Really? I thought I had heard that orcs were welcome in strongholds. :/

Well that just killed my interest to play my orc. I made him solely to work out of strongholds.

Bethesda trademark botching strikes again. ><

» Sun Dec 11, 2011 5:25 pm

A little piece of my just died inside. I was so looking forward to making an Orc warrior and having an awesome backstory of travelling the world then coming "home" to 1 of the strongholds........damn

» Sun Dec 11, 2011 1:25 am

There is a way to gain entry to orc strongholds as a non orc.

» Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:32 am

The reason they do not recognize you is because you are a 'city orc' or an outsider. They don't see you as a true orc.

» Sun Dec 11, 2011 5:26 pm

thats even worse than me talking to the khajiit caravans about how theyre not let inside the city, strolling into the city, than talking to a woman about how she feels about the khajiity caravans while NONE OF THEM ever notice that im a freakin cat. seriously, just throw in those "greetings, fellow [race]" dialogues and it would be fine, but they couldnt even do that. for some reason, only the guards have random dialogue, while everyone else spouts the same ONE line to you over and over, never changing, never considering the wealth of situations you could be talking to them under.

» Sun Dec 11, 2011 5:47 am

thats even worse than me talking to the khajiit caravans about how theyre not let inside the city, strolling into the city, than talking to a woman about how she feels about the khajiity caravans while NONE OF THEM ever notice that im a freakin cat. seriously, just throw in those "greetings, fellow [race]" dialogues and it would be fine, but they couldnt even do that. for some reason, only the guards have random dialogue, while everyone else spouts the same ONE line to you over and over, never changing, never considering the wealth of situations you could be talking to them under.

That's really odd, I swear I read somewhere that being an orc gives you instant access to the orcish strongholds. It's definitely a bug that needs to be fixed.

» Sun Dec 11, 2011 5:34 pm

Well I don't know the reason for this but I tried with two different orc characters now and both were not recognized.

What may be the problem though is that my battlemage orc is a werewolf and my other orc a vampire. Maybe if you get afflicted with one of the curses the game won't recognize your race anymore?

» Sun Dec 11, 2011 11:03 am

I had instant access with my Orc...

I was a bit disappointed though. When I first found them I didn't know they even existed, so I got excited... they were hardly populated though and there didn't seem to be anything to do...

» Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:43 pm

Well, the NPCs sure did recognise me as a Nord. Not sure bout other races though

» Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:13 pm

Where abouts are the Strongholds? I'll try it out with my Orc in a bit.

» Sun Dec 11, 2011 1:44 pm

When I played as an Orc I was welcomed in a stronghold. It must be a bug.

» Sun Dec 11, 2011 3:49 pm

I've not played Orc yet, and I've only met a couple in the game - I managed to trade with one but as soon as the dialogue over, Lydia brained him without provocation, which made me wonder if everyone hates them.

» Sun Dec 11, 2011 5:27 am

It might depend on race. I'm playing both a Bosmer and an Alter at the moment. The Bosmer seems to get recognized by at least some NCPs (both friendly and hostile) as a Wood Elf. Things are quite different with my Altmer though. So far not one person from the most racist Nord to the most supremacist Thalmor has recognized him as a High Elf. They all act like he is a human. It's quite disappointing, but I haven't been EVERYWHERE yet, so I might be missing something. I do agree that I miss the NCP greetings from Oblivion that recognized your character's race.

» Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:23 am

I think that bow trainer in Riverwood is the only wood elf to recognize me as being a wood elf, the dark elves in gray quarters and the one in the mage college didnt recognize my dark elf which disappointed me

» Sun Dec 11, 2011 3:11 am

Well I don't know the reason for this but I tried with two different orc characters now and both were not recognized.

What may be the problem though is that my battlemage orc is a werewolf and my other orc a vampire. Maybe if you get afflicted with one of the curses the game won't recognize your race anymore?

I think THAT was worth to be mentioned.

» Sun Dec 11, 2011 1:24 pm

Why? an orc with a werewolf curse is still an orc!

(Doesn't look any different either)

» Sun Dec 11, 2011 1:30 pm

Found one and they refer to my as a filthy city Orc.

» Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:23 pm

Yea, is a little strange, as a Nord, I could just walk in to all but one Orc camp without doing anything and everyone was all friendly like, even paid off an Orc's dowry and got her as a companion :celebration:

The only Orc stronghold that didn't let me in attacked me on sight, no "we don't like you"

» Sun Dec 11, 2011 1:51 pm

I gained acess to the Orc stronghold and mine south east of windhelm just fine on my Orc. He was a warrior with werewolf blood so being a wolf doesn't seem to affect it.Might just be certain strongholds.

» Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:18 pm

Hrm, odd but I was at two different strongholds and neither acknowledged my orcs. Maybe the bug is more complex.

» Sun Dec 11, 2011 11:13 am

Very strange my orc was very welcomed when I walked into the strongholds. The first orc I walked by when I entered the stronghold said "youve been away from your kind too long, welcome home brother"

» Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:03 am

My nord had access to orc strongholds since the beginning... Why?