Khajiits also need an overhaul...in fact all races do :shrug:

I'm not against the idea of 400lb hulking orcs with new animations, but I don't think it's necessary. Bethesda does need to flesh them out a little bit more though. It's like ohh look walking cats and lizards and awesome dark elves and romans and ... uhh orcs? too? okay ....

They just feel thrown in. They should be a bit more tribal, they should have unique gruff voices. They're supposed to be the shock troops of the empire. They should act the part. They're supposed to worship Malacath, let's make some sort of awesome quest involving that (ogre mansions don't count).

And please something has to be done with their armor. Morrowind made them samurai which i didn't think fit, and oblivion gave them some sort of brown baggy sack with nipble rings.

I liked the Orcs in Morrowind but even they could be improved. The Orcs in Oblivion just reminded me of pigs. But then again almost every race was pretty ugly in Oblivion so hopefully with the new engine and new art style all the races will be improved visually in Skyrim.

I dunno about the rest of you, but when I think of TES orsimer, I think of http://www.imperial-library.info/sites/default/files/races_mw_orc.gif.

Remember, people, they are orsimer. They're elves, abet defiled by by the daedric prince, Beothia, after he ate Trinimac and pooped out Malacath.

I wouldn't want Bethesda to be accused of copying but I would love to see the Orcs look like the ones from Lord Of The Rings.

No way in hell should they turn the Orsimer into fracking LOTR movie orcs. Come on, man.

I wouldn't mind ones that look less goofy, but lots not just start importing stuff from other franchises because we like those franchises.

ES is it's own universe, if everyone starts pulling in stuff from other universes pretty soon ES isn't ES.

Too many cooks spoil the broth.

OR may bluntly, keep your LOTR out of my ES

Picture 3 has moobs, you heard it here first.

i gotta say that it could be cool if it was an in-between the two.

P.S. dont diss warhammer fantasy its a wonderful world

Personally I'd like the orcs to take on a more turkic-mongolian look, but with tusks, and green olive skin.
http://warbriel.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/orc_chicks.jpg

It would be nice if they looked a little more like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxDBQkry9VI. The skin tone seems a little off, but the design seems pretty sound. If the lower teeth were a little more pronounced and they fixed the skin tone a little, Orcs could be a pretty awesome race.

I don’t need to see them re-imagined, but I’d personally like it if they were portrayed a little more seriously.

Same goes for the Bosmer.

This, and they should be physically different from other NPCs. Seeing an orc with a tonsure hair style in OB didn't really fit their race.

Morrowind's orcs were much cooler than Oblivion's orcs.

I'd like to keep some of the orc features from Oblivion and Morrowind, but also give them a more elvish look (like making their faces more narrow, and their foreheads more human/elven).

Orcs aren't bad guys or monsters. Please don't make them generic orcs or LOTR orcs.

It was refreshing that the Orcs weren't stereotypically always angry or ugly looking for me. If I didn't love playing a Khajiit so much, I'd have played an Orc in Oblivion.

I agree, i think that they are always getting **** on by the facegen of oblivion. this is true for all the races not just orcs....but primarily orcs.

you play through morrowind and you see some badass dudes that look like they are chiefs of some bloodthirsty clan of warriors, by looks alone he could murder you ceaselessly.
"FOR DECADES AND DECADES AND DECADES!"
compared to the orc of oblivion which looks like a giant green baby crossed with a pig with lipstick....just plain wrong. i played an orc once...out of sympathy.

however the engine is new so it shouldnt have the same facegen.
and fallout3/nv is proof that they know how to make facegen not svck [as bad].
so expect to see better more badass orcs....and wood elves [shudder]

what really bothers me most about the races is that they all have the same voice.
nords and orcs
all the elves.
beasts.
redguards have the best male voice out of all of them, hes the most convincing VA....but he is the only VA for the male version of that race....LAME

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if we had BEARDS...and real facial hair...and more hair styles.
orcs would be so much cooler.

also if we had different a different skin tone.

different body builds.
fat orcs FTW!!!

Yeah they are kind of lame in Elder scrolls.---- Gotchic 2, Warhammer/40k, LOTR had great Orc's they need to make them like that!!!

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I never dissed it.

And I agree. We need more Warhammer Fantasy-ish Orks.

I think all the races need to get rid of the human body look. It's basically different race heads on human proportioned (keyword) bodies, and some have a tail. I mean, make a Khajit that walks like a cat like race would and maybe even use all four limbs when sprinting and jumping more fluidly like a cat would to get to higher places. Make an Argonian swim through the water like a snake, etc.

Wow, that was the most blatant Lord of the Rings ripoff I've ever seen. :shakehead:





Its a good idea. Question is whether Bethesda is willing to do something like this or just "play it safe" and have them all on one body type again. =/

I thought Bosmer were.