Orcs ? : V

» Sun Apr 25, 2010 7:15 am

Orcs seemed to be for comic relief in OB. I don't mind levity but the bright green skin, pig noses, purple lips gotta go. I'd prefer a more menacing take on the cursed ones.

» Sun Apr 25, 2010 6:39 pm

What would you want then?

Warhammer Fantasy Orks?

» Sun Apr 25, 2010 3:58 am

Lord of the Rings would have been nice to fight and hunt down. Each verison has their own verison of Ork,orcs or elves.

» Sun Apr 25, 2010 4:21 am

I really dont care as long as they aren't cuddly.

» Sun Apr 25, 2010 7:17 pm

I think the Orcs in Oblivion were fine. I don't want them to be or look like savage monsters. And Oblivion's art style is probably to blame for their hypergreen skin.

» Sun Apr 25, 2010 6:35 am

I really dont care as long as they aren't cuddly.

And how are Oblivion Orcs cuddly...?

» Sun Apr 25, 2010 3:43 pm

Lord of the Rings would have been nice to fight and hunt down. Each verison has their own verison of Ork,orcs or elves.

Putting some more of the Uruk-Hai spirit in them wouldn't hurt.

» Sun Apr 25, 2010 4:31 am

the orcs appearance is fine, but they should have angrier facial expressions and louder angrier voices

edit: orcs appearance is fine, they should have angrier facial expressions, louder angrier voices, paler skin, no eyebrows, and are considered beast npcs with their own walking animation

» Sun Apr 25, 2010 5:47 am

And how are Oblivion Orcs cuddly...?

I think it's the tusks that do it for me. So cute and razor sharp...

Putting some more of the Uruk-Hai spirit in them wouldn't hurt.

the orcs appearance is fine, but they should have angrier facial expressions and louder angrier voices

I don't think all Orcs are brutes all the time. They could be one of the more aggressive races as far as having more angry NPCs per capita, but there is some civility in the Pariah Folk.

» Sun Apr 25, 2010 10:40 am

the orcs appearance is fine, but they should have angrier facial expressions and louder angrier voices

Unless there was some sort perceived of injustice, how do you explain them being hostile all the time?

To me Orcs sounded like Nords, had the same countenance (maybe a tad more unreasonably hostile) as Nords... hell they were Nords with green skin and horns. A lot of the races need to be re-worked if you ask me...

» Sun Apr 25, 2010 6:37 pm

Then they wouldn't fit the lore...Orcs have feelings too.

» Sun Apr 25, 2010 4:10 am

the orcs appearance is fine, but they should have angrier facial expressions and louder angrier voices

edit: orcs appearance is fine, they should have angrier facial expressions, louder angrier voices, paler skin, no eyebrows, and are considered beast npcs with their own walking animation

Paler? I think it should be darker.

» Sun Apr 25, 2010 4:46 pm

Oi gitz, wut iz you mucking about?

Wrong Orks...

» Sun Apr 25, 2010 2:12 pm

Oi gitz, wut iz you mucking about?

Wrong Orks...

Die Greenski-

Oh wait...Well, I do say madem, I'm terribly sorry.

*Walks away awkwardly*

» Sun Apr 25, 2010 12:40 pm

Paler? I think it should be darker.

sure, just less green :thumbsup:

» Sun Apr 25, 2010 7:58 pm

I was not saying they were cuddly I just think there overall design is fine: but not all of them need to be brutes yes in most cases their nature is gruff in nature I guess that however should not make them all hostile.

» Sun Apr 25, 2010 6:52 pm

I just want their skin to be more sallow.

Brown and dark skin and no more bright greens. Ok maybe a little, just so my character can be his own glow in the dark orc.

» Sun Apr 25, 2010 5:14 pm

I think it's the tusks that do it for me. So cute and razor sharp...

I don't think all Orcs are brutes all the time. They could be one of the more aggressive races as far as having more angry NPCs per capita, but there is some civility in the Pariah Folk.

Right. http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Lord_Rugdumph_gro-Shurgak is excellent proof. I'd rather laugh myself to death than panic with these guys. Being ugly and silly is pointless, but looking ugly while being scary would actually have a purpose. If they'd actually look fierce and able to go berserk as they're supposed to be, I'd play as an Orc more often. A more impressive appearance shouldn't implicate immanent hostility.

» Sun Apr 25, 2010 2:32 pm

There should be more varitiy in apperance.

» Sun Apr 25, 2010 6:33 pm

The biggest issue I had with Orcs was their voice. This is the great flaw that was the limited number of voice acting in the game. Nords and Orcs were the same. Imperials and Bretons were the same. All elves were the same. And Argonians and Khajiit were the same. I don't mind their appearance (though improvement is most definitely welcome for all races visually and otherwise) as much as I mind that. Voices need serious, SERIOUS work for Skyrim.

» Sun Apr 25, 2010 12:08 pm

The biggest issue I had with Orcs was their voice. This is the great flaw that was the limited number of voice acting in the game. Nords and Orcs were the same. Imperials and Bretons were the same. All elves were the same. And Argonians and Khajiit were the same. I don't mind their appearance (though improvement is most definitely welcome for all races visually and otherwise) as much as I mind that. Voices need serious, SERIOUS work for Skyrim.

agreed, the voices need serious work i would like two different voices for each gender. for the orcs? less green or ill be blind...

» Sun Apr 25, 2010 7:45 pm

100% agree. All beast races looked funny. The Argonians looked the best of the 3.

Orcs should be less green and not have such FAT FACES. Jesus, make them look cool, not ugly. I know theyre not supposed to be "evil" like in cliche fantasy, but they dont have to be so ugly.

The two voice actors didnt help. They needed to sound a bit cooler.

This is stolen from the MERP mod, but the Orc facial proportions for these uruk-hai look FAR SUPERIOR to the original orc face proportions. http://media.moddb.com/cache/images/mods/1/13/12445/thumb_620x2000/ScreenHunter_02_Nov._17_18.53.jpg

» Sun Apr 25, 2010 7:32 am

agreed, the voices need serious work i would like two different voices for each gender

I doth concureth most wholeheartedly...eth.

But on a less ridiculous note I think that Oblivion suffered from voice actors who were too famous (pronounced expensive). I think a good number of less-than-famous voice actors and a couple of "hey it's that guy" appearances would do the game a lot of good.

Edit because I cannot spell.

» Sun Apr 25, 2010 4:39 pm

And how are Oblivion Orcs cuddly...?

Compared to http://features.cgsociety.org/newgallerycrits/g38/322338/322338_1282146317_large.jpg yes they are cuddly!

But seriously, I like to see some Orcs like the following, and just like different people we see in R/L, we can see different Orcs as well: http://d2d04grx5ahzvh.cloudfront.net/000_WebRoundups/26_Monsters/18.jpg http://www.ambientart.de/3d/gallery/characters/Dark%20Wizard.jpg http://www.3dtotal.com/admin2/front_page/gallery/big/2472.jpg http://www.3dtotal.com/admin2/front_page/gallery/big/rump.jpg

» Sun Apr 25, 2010 1:13 pm

Orcs should have more of a voice like the Nightkin in FO:NV, and not be so darn........comical looking.

Definitely agree that there needs to be more variety in the voices. I don't want my Cats and Lizards sounding the same, or my Nordic people and my big-massive-berserking- beast race- Orc. :verymad: