There seems to be a conflict of times on Imperial Library and UESP Wiki.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Ashlanders

That link above says Dunmer and Ashlanders were alike in the Merethic era.

Now how can that be when Dunmer weren't even "created" or "changed" until 1E 668 or so? http://www.imperial-library.info/history/1.shtml


I'm going with TIL as UESP can be edited by anyone, including me. lol

What's the scoop here?

Pretty sure they mean "alike" culturally and politically, not in regards to their technical race. The Dunmer aren't always even referred to as Chimer when talking about events prior to their transmutation, so...

But the biggest issue is the time. Dunmer weren't around in the Merethic era. Why does it say that in UESP?

http://www.imperial-library.info/obscure_text/forum.shtml

This is Michael correcting some mistakes about the names of Morrowind, found in the lore. The uesp article was just imprecise with its usage of the word Dunmer. Infact that sentence is a bit redundant, of course the Dunmer and the Ashlanders were much alike. They still are.

I guess poor wording, and I understand it as meaning that those chimer who will become the dunmers - the settled tribes - and those that will become the ashlanders - the nomadic tribes - were culturally much closer than now.

I recall Ashlanders used to live in Strongholds once. Interesting to see how different they are now, compared to back then.

The strongholds weren't build by the ashlander - who are and always were nomads - but by their settled relatives from the Great Houses.

I always thought they split when Nevar was murdered.

Ah I see. Thanks Jackfrost.

StoneFrog said it first.

you're welcome though

The notes at the back of the Ancient Tales of the Dwemer suggest otherwise. I think it says that the source is Ashlander oral history, which, if we use typical rules about oral history, is often correct if it is talking about the history of a fortified site. And even nomadic tribes can build fortress such as that. They seem to be on the borders between different tribes, and could serve as places to rest after following the herds. Remember that the Ashlands were much more fertile before the eruption of Red Mountain. They'd still have been Ashlands, but not as we know them.