Orw in skyrim vs real ore...

Post » Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:57 am

Checking the other materials seems bethesda tried to give a more realistic feel tothe materials and ingots .....

So if you had to create a corrispondence or a realistic explanation to ores in Tes how would you classify ?


For example for me moonstone is alunite from wich can be extracted an alluminium proportion for the light elven armor....

For the gilded elven armor instead ilmenite would correspond to quicksilver from wich extract titanium proportions ...

How bout the others?
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Post » Sun Jun 17, 2012 6:03 pm

There is no correspondence in properties between in-game materials and their real world namesakes.
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Post » Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:57 am

There is no correspondence in properties between in-game materials and their real world namesakes.

There isn't, but he's asking for a "what if" scenario.

Materials with Aluminum and Titanium properties being used for Elven armor sounds about right. I wonder what glass' properties are like, if there is a real-world anologue.
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Post » Sun Jun 17, 2012 8:06 am

There isn't, but he's asking for a "what if" scenario.

Materials with Aluminum and Titanium properties being used for Elven armor sounds about right. I wonder what glass' properties are like, if there is a real-world anologue.

I think of them as diamond-like material. I don't know if they are made of carbon, however. The periodic table might not transfer over to TES very well.
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Post » Sun Jun 17, 2012 4:19 pm

I think of them as diamond-like material. I don't know if they are made of carbon, however. The periodic table might not transfer over to TES very well.

That could work. Same properties as carbon-based armors. Light and durable, but not flexible and brittle.
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Post » Sun Jun 17, 2012 6:05 am

That could work. Same properties as carbon-based armors. Light and durable, but not flexible and brittle.

Carbon nano-tubes are supposed to be durable/strong as heck. I don't know enough about it to actually say anything else though.
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Post » Sun Jun 17, 2012 8:58 pm

Carbon nano-tubes are supposed to be durable/strong as heck. I don't know enough about it to actually say anything else though.

The first carbon nano-tubes were generally really brittle, but I believe the recently developed nano tubes are very flexible in addition to being strong.

Diamond is also an example of strong, yet brittle. Impossible to scratch or chip, but you take a sledgehammer to it and it will crack and fracture. I believe an in-game text describes glass in the same way.
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Post » Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:41 pm

if this leads to somebody forging malachite armor we should point out it is a toxic element to humans.
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Post » Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:39 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malachite
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Post » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:26 pm

Pwnd
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Post » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:34 am

There are a lot of parallels (Tamrielic iron, in particular, seems almost identical to real iron) but some differences. In real life, corundum is the substance that rubies and sapphires are made of, a very hard crystalline substance. In Tamriel it's what is added to iron to make steel. In real life, quicksilver is a name for Mercury, but in TES, it's solid at room temperature (or at least what passes for room temperature in Skyrim). For obvious reasons There is also ebony, which is very similar to obsidian but instead of being brittle, is able to be worked into a very strong and durable metallic substance (in addition to the arguable metaphysical properties).
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Post » Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:36 am

I'm confused on the fact that when moonstone is used as a jewel in circlets its blue, but when refined in armor and ingots its a pale yellow color? Also, judging from how Bethesda introduced several of the minerals in this game, most of the upper level materials are fictional. Like Orichalcum is a mythical stone believed to be in Atlantis that was comparable to Adamentium but is a heavy mineral in this game used to craft mid-tier Orchish armaments. Ebony is a type of wood in real life, but a rare style of volcanic glass in TES thats very hard (though it has to be carefully crated according to the Armor books) and is used in blood forging Daedric items. Quicksilver appears to be the basis for Akivir weapons (like Bolars Blade and Dragonbane) and the edge of Elven weapons while it's a nickname for Mercury (as stated before). The only thing that is really comparable to real life is the lower tier minerals (like Crimson Paladin stated) where steel is an alloy of iron and other minerals, corundum is a 9 on the hardness scale and makes sense for strong steel. Ruby and Sapphires come from Corundum. Im still hung up on the change in color for Moonstone lol :P
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Post » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:55 am

Orichalcum is proabbly fragments or the Orichalc Tower. No clue on moonstone, although I've always believed in a connection to Lorkhan's corpse(s).
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Post » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:11 pm

Im still hung up on the change in color for Moonstone lol :tongue:

Maybe opalescence?
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Post » Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:40 pm

Ok seems that Elven materials make use of Aluminium and Titanium

Glass armors are derivative stones from volcanic minerals those also have traces of titanium and other minerals that could lead to some kind of different weight alloys ,

Dwemer is probably something like bronze or brass

Steel is actually steel but there are many types of steel actually with different mixing of other materials that change the ductility or hardness of it , so it make sense to talk about

Elven steel , celestial steel , akavir steel , orcish steel and so on , all could be actually crafted in different ways with different % of carbonium ( or corundum ) and other minerals like titanium and alluminium , where more alluminium = more light , more titanium = more hard ... etc etc etc ...
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Post » Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:17 pm

Maybe opalescence?

haha didn't think of that. I'd believe it


Orichalcum is proabbly fragments or the Orichalc Tower. No clue on moonstone, although I've always believed in a connection to Lorkhan's corpse(s).

Orichalic Tower sunk into the sea with Yokunda, how would that wash up into random parts of Skyrim? o_O
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Post » Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:08 pm

Ok seems that Elven materials make use of Aluminium and Titanium

Glass armors are derivative stones from volcanic minerals those also have traces of titanium and other minerals that could lead to some kind of different weight alloys ,

Dwemer is probably something like bronze or brass

Steel is actually steel but there are many types of steel actually with different mixing of other materials that change the ductility or hardness of it , so it make sense to talk about

Elven steel , celestial steel , akavir steel , orcish steel and so on , all could be actually crafted in different ways with different % of carbonium ( or corundum ) and other minerals like titanium and alluminium , where more alluminium = more light , more titanium = more hard ... etc etc etc ...

The Dwarves were masters of fabrication, the materials in the metal (according to some records) were lost with their disappearance. Though its likely a brass-like material, its like I said earlier with it being a mythical metal for mid-tier armor, though this has no real world counterpart I can think of. It would be nice to know how the other steels work (akivir steel, orchish steel from morrowind, etc) but we can only get that from the books that base the armor types. Akivir based anything is hard because theres so little known about them. How do you know about those metals containing bits of AL and TI? Out of curiosity :)
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Post » Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:50 am

wikipedia lol ....

look for alunite or other materials , for me alunite is the most close to moonstone ...
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Post » Sun Jun 17, 2012 3:30 pm

Ah, ok. I'm not sure that Cyrodiilic Glass and morrowind glass are identical, though they are the same color and are definitely from similar origins. Skyrim's malachite armor is significantly darker and that could be why it needs to be made with a moonstone base. Also explains why the Thalmor have it all the time too. Freakin Thalmor....
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Post » Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:47 am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malachite
what on earth was that proving?
http://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?msdsId=9927220
it is toxic so long as it wasnt tumbled, processing it let off fumes that killed people.
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Post » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:46 pm


what on earth was that proving?
http://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?msdsId=9927220
it is toxic so long as it wasnt tumbled, processing it let off fumes that killed people.

What on earth was THAT proving?
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Post » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:23 am

what on earth was that proving?
http://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?msdsId=9927220
it is toxic so long as it wasnt tumbled, processing it let off fumes that killed people.

That's for this chemical: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malachite_green
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Post » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:35 pm

he pulled up the chemical lol so i did to. but the stone is toxic, mainly for being processed and making toxic fumes. much slower with direct contact to the skin but toxic nontheless
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Post » Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:28 pm

It says in the first paragraph that Malachite has nothing to do Malachite Green, its just called that because of similar color. Also, considering that malachite in real life is used to make jewelry it is highly unlikely that touching the stone will harm someone, especially when you can buy them polished or not.

EdIt: I stand corrected, the dust is apparently very toxic. Apologies lol
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Post » Sun Jun 17, 2012 8:22 am


EdIt: I stand corrected, the dust is apparently very toxic. Apologies lol

Post the link for this.
Malachite was used as a powder to make paint and as makeup in Ancient Egypt.
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