Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul SPOILERS, Thread #27

Post » Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:07 pm

Check Fatback Cave just south of Imp City.

Thank you!
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Post » Mon Jan 31, 2011 12:54 pm

I read the earlier posts on Path of Iron/Molag Bal quests, but am still confused:

1. Can I complete both quests succesfully in the same game? (I don't care about being good or evil, so I want to do both)
2. If the answer is yes to #1 above, how to do it? Should I start MB first, then try to get the claymore, or vice versa. Also, which one should I complete first? Someone mentioned getting an icy stare from Molag Bal if the Path of Iron was completed first...
3. Can I still get Olyn Seran at the MB shrine to talk to me after finishing Path of Iron?

I've a new character (lvl 5) in that area, so thought I would ask before getting too involved in any of the quests and screwing up the other...
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Post » Mon Jan 31, 2011 12:56 pm

Forgot to ask this other question:

Who is Hurn Illmouth - or, what quest is he from? Met him near the ayleid ruin of Sedor, and after a tough fight (with my lvl 5 spellsword, the bugger yielded Lhotun's Wish and some nice Obsidian Cuirass. I'm guessing he's from the Skyrim Bandit quest, though the journal I found earlier near a Bruma camp told me that Marduk was the main boss (near Hermeus Mora's shrine). I haven't completed the Skyrim Bandits quest yet, so if it's a spoiler to that, don't tell me! If Hurn Illmouth is from a different quest, I'd like to know.
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Post » Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:22 am

you cannot complete both molag bal's quest and the path of iron.
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Post » Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:41 am

you cannot complete both molag bal's quest and the path of iron.

EddyP sort of disagrees with you in http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1078987-oscuros-oblivion-overhaul-spoilers-thread-27/page__view__findpost__p__15762797 post from this very thread :confused: .I guess he didn't mention that you can complete Path of Iron after that...
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Post » Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:42 am

Forgot to ask this other question:

Who is Hurn Illmouth - or, what quest is he from? Met him near the ayleid ruin of Sedor, and after a tough fight (with my lvl 5 spellsword, the bugger yielded Lhotun's Wish and some nice Obsidian Cuirass. I'm guessing he's from the Skyrim Bandit quest, though the journal I found earlier near a Bruma camp told me that Marduk was the main boss (near Hermeus Mora's shrine). I haven't completed the Skyrim Bandits quest yet, so if it's a spoiler to that, don't tell me! If Hurn Illmouth is from a different quest, I'd like to know.


IIRC, he is not directly connected to any of the OOO quest lines, although, of course, he's surrounded by Skyrim guys so loosely connected to it. He's basically a boss clutching a cool defensive staff. That said, I'm lousy at reading letters etc., so perhaps he might be mentioned somewhere.
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Post » Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:54 pm


Who is Hurn Illmouth - or, what quest is he from? Met him near the ayleid ruin of Sedor, and after a tough fight (with my lvl 5 spellsword, the bugger yielded Lhotun's Wish and some nice Obsidian Cuirass.



In reality it shouldn't be possible to defeat him with a character under possibly level 12 if played on normal difficulty.
Are you by any chance using a magic overhaul mod (SM, LAME etc) which would explain it?
If not then we may have to have another look at him.
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Post » Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:25 pm

In reality it shouldn't be possible to defeat him with a character under possibly level 12 if played on normal difficulty.
Are you by any chance using a magic overhaul mod (SM, LAME etc) which would explain it?
If not then we may have to have another look at him.


I took him down with two strong staffs (recharged with at least one Varla stone as well IIRC) with a c. Lvl 5 char once, so there are ways to kill him on lower levels. But he's one of those OOO bosses that cast restore health on self when in low health so more or less impossible in drawn out fights with low level chars.
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Post » Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:43 pm

In reality it shouldn't be possible to defeat him with a character under possibly level 12 if played on normal difficulty.
Are you by any chance using a magic overhaul mod (SM, LAME etc) which would explain it?
If not then we may have to have another look at him.


Well, to be fair, I had Vilja companion, and LAME installed (which allows multiple conjuration), so I respawned my conjuration while Vilja and others were fodder for him. Then I snuck in a few poisoned arrows on him (Duke Patricks Combat Archery greatly increases the bow/arrow damage), so off he went after a really tough fight. Bugger turned invisible after every minute, but my conjured creatures and companion still see him....

EDIT: That's my gripe - wish there was a way that conjured creatures and companions couldn't see what I can't!!
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Post » Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:39 pm

I took him down with two strong staffs (recharged with at least one Varla stone as well IIRC) with a c. Lvl 5 char once, so there are ways to kill him on lower levels. .


My characters are normally melee type with the only magic skill always Restoration without any magic enhancing mods or companions.
I don't think that I've ever had a varla stone (Vilverin apart) before level 10. Too much of a chicken to visit those ayleid ruins before then.
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Post » Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:59 am

I read the earlier posts on Path of Iron/Molag Bal quests, but am still confused:

1. Can I complete both quests succesfully in the same game? (I don't care about being good or evil, so I want to do both)
2. If the answer is yes to #1 above, how to do it? Should I start MB first, then try to get the claymore, or vice versa. Also, which one should I complete first? Someone mentioned getting an icy stare from Molag Bal if the Path of Iron was completed first...
3. Can I still get Olyn Seran at the MB shrine to talk to me after finishing Path of Iron?

I've a new character (lvl 5) in that area, so thought I would ask before getting too involved in any of the quests and screwing up the other...

Bumpy for this that fell thru the cracls, is sloblivion correct that both can't be done succesfully?
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Post » Mon Jan 31, 2011 12:16 pm

My characters are normally melee type with the only magic skill always Restoration without any magic enhancing mods or companions.
I don't think that I've ever had a varla stone (Vilverin apart) before level 10. Too much of a chicken to visit those ayleid ruins before then.


Heh, I always grab the one in Vilverin right out of the sewers. Anyway, this just goes to show that magic overhauls, companions etc. will change the balance rather profoundly. That's up to the player, of course, but should be considered if finding OOO/FCOM too easy.

Bumpy for this that fell thru the cracls, is sloblivion correct that both can't be done succesfully?


I think the closest you'll get is by doing as EddyP said:

You can start a Path of Iron after you receive the Molag Bal quest, and as far as I'm aware as long as you don't pick up the claymore you can still complete the Molag Bal quest.

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Post » Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:54 pm

To clarify about Path of Iron and Molag Bal's Quest.

I just did this btw. I started Molag Bal's quest. I got to the point where I activated the claymore, I picked the option that was a good guy one. Then I found the book in his house. Then I let the guy kill me with the cursed mace, and I activated Molag Bal's shrine. I got the mace and the Path of Iron quest still says I have to kills hordes of evil to get the armor AKA it didn't say I failed. I haven't gone any further in the Path of Iron but I'm pretty sure its fine.
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Post » Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:25 pm

To clarify about Path of Iron and Molag Bal's Quest.

I just did this btw. I started Molag Bal's quest. I got to the point where I activated the claymore, I picked the option that was a good guy one. Then I found the book in his house. Then I let the guy kill me with the cursed mace, and I activated Molag Bal's shrine. I got the mace and the Path of Iron quest still says I have to kills hordes of evil to get the armor AKA it didn't say I failed. I haven't gone any further in the Path of Iron but I'm pretty sure its fine.


Heh, if you find a way to finish both we might very well fix it for the next OOO release so it's not possible anymore. ;) After all, Sotobrastos intention was that you shouldn't be able to do both.
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Post » Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:03 pm

From the OOO release thread:

Hello. I would like someone to post the updated house prices in OOO, if you please. It's a shame not being able to buy Benirus Manor for 5000g :cry: . Thank you in advance.


Here are the base prices with OOO [vanilla prices]:

Imperial City - 4000 [2000]
Bravil - 12 000 [4000]
Anvil - 20 000 [5000]
Leyawiin - 30 000 [7000]
Bruma - 40 000 [10 000]
Cheydinhal - 70 000 [15 000]
Chorrol - 100 000 [20 000]
Skingrad - 125 000 [25 000]

So from an OOO perspective, Benirus Manor is still a great buy. :)
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Post » Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:33 pm

From the OOO release thread:



Here are the base prices with OOO [vanilla prices]:

Imperial City - 4000 [2000]
Bravil - 12 000 [4000]
Anvil - 20 000 [5000]
Leyawiin - 30 000 [7000]
Bruma - 40 000 [10 000]
Cheydinhal - 70 000 [15 000]
Chorrol - 100 000 [20 000]
Skingrad - 125 000 [25 000]

So from an OOO perspective, Benirus Manor is still a great buy. :)


Thank you very much for the answer and for the relocation :P

Cheers
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Post » Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:38 pm

You can start a Path of Iron after you receive the Molag Bal quest, and as far as I'm aware as long as you don't pick up the claymore you can still complete the Molag Bal quest.

I Know you could at one point, wether that's been changed in an Upgrade or not, I don't know... :shrug:
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Post » Mon Jan 31, 2011 2:09 pm

Hello. I went to Reedstandt Cave and found a jaguar named "Ol' Lurker", and instead of a "Jaguar's Pelt" he had an "Ol' Lurker's Pelt" in him. Is he related to any quest? Finding his pelt or something? I don't want details, I just want to know whether he is quest-related or not.

Thank you in advance.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:11 am

Hello. I went to Reedstandt Cave and found a jaguar named "Ol' Lurker", and instead of a "Jaguar's Pelt" he had an "Ol' Lurker's Pelt" in him. Is he related to any quest? Finding his pelt or something? I don't want details, I just want to know whether he is quest-related or not.

Thank you in advance.


He's not quest related AFAIK, except indirectly via the befriend animals feature.
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Post » Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:43 am

He's not quest related AFAIK, except indirectly via the befriend animals feature.


Ok, thank you. I was unaware of that feature. Strangely enough, after getting out of Reedstandt Cave the game froze when fast travelling anywhere. I posted a topic in Hardware and Software Issues: [topic='1110328-loading-freeze/']Reedstandt Cave Problem[/topic]. I would appreciate if anyone could help.
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Post » Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:08 pm

Ok here is probably a silly question, easy ways of making cash? The closest thing I have found is luring amazons into city entrances or other not-so-healthy places for them. I have never managed to work up enough cash to buy the more expensive houses.

I admit I am using enhanced economy, so getting a couple enchanted items won't exactly make me rich beyond compare :P
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:00 am

In reality it shouldn't be possible to defeat him with a character under possibly level 12 if played on normal difficulty.
Are you by any chance using a magic overhaul mod (SM, LAME etc) which would explain it?
If not then we may have to have another look at him.

Since this was just discussed, and I just defeated him, this might be relevant.

Have no magic overhaul, no companions (did have Shadowmere, but she was off, chasing a Brigand)

I was level 8
Defeated him by using a unenchanted sword only (Moonbrand)
Used 8 Potion of Healing (9 pts for 5 secs) during the fight.

Was a tough fight.. but I never really thought I was in trouble.

Edit:
Lhotun's Wish is a Light Armor that Fortify Heavy Armor, is this intentional.
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Post » Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:50 am

I don't lnow How many of those guy's I could beat on for ~5min., until they had just a Tiny little Dot of health left, then get killed in one hit... :brokencomputer:

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Post » Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:07 pm

Since this was just discussed, and I just defeated him, this might be relevant.

Have no magic overhaul, no companions (did have Shadowmere, but she was off, chasing a Brigand)

I was level 8
Defeated him by using a unenchanted sword only (Moonbrand)
Used 8 Potion of Healing (9 pts for 5 secs) during the fight.

Was a tough fight.. but I never really thought I was in trouble.

Edit:
Lhotun's Wish is a Light Armor that Fortify Heavy Armor, is this intentional.


Sounds a bit odd, if nothing else because he usually restores his health back to full when it gets low, so difficult to take down with low leveled chars. But there are so many factors involved in how difficult something is on a particular level that it is hard to say if it's normal or not. And he is a "mid level" OOO boss, so not THAT difficult.

Yes, I've always found Lhotun's Wish set up a bit odd - but it's always been like that. Personally, I'm very hesitant about changing stuff in OOO as it is Sotobrastos vision/decisions, so I think OOO changes should deal with bugs, obvious tweaks, optimization etc. only. But I'll ask the OOO team what they think about it.

Ok here is probably a silly question, easy ways of making cash? The closest thing I have found is luring amazons into city entrances or other not-so-healthy places for them. I have never managed to work up enough cash to buy the more expensive houses.

I admit I am using enhanced economy, so getting a couple enchanted items won't exactly make me rich beyond compare :P


Why not customize EE so you'll get more money for items then? Not using it so I can't really give advice on easy ways to make money with OOO and EE. Without EE it's surely to dungeon crawl and sell stuff.
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Post » Mon Jan 31, 2011 1:52 pm

So at the end of Sideways Cave there were TWO Gargoyles... has anyone else seen this or was it a bug?
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