Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul SPOILERS, Thread #27 : IV - Oblivion

» Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:33 pm

So at the end of Sideways Cave there were TWO Gargoyles... has anyone else seen this or was it a bug?

Yeah, I've had one or two there. Should be normal.

» Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:00 pm

How to deal with Lord Volmyr using Levitation?
I will probably make a video to show this? very funny...

Why lord Volmyr is so powerful (immunity to invisibiliy, to poison, to paralysis, load of buffing and destruction spells); the most annoying thing about him is he is using all the time some invisiblity spell. I have even given a 100 ft life detection Amulet to my 70 level mage companion et she was unable to detect him.

Playing at 60% difficulty is fair enough to use levitation...

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:02 am

Just brought down Ancient Lord Volmyr with Ivy, my Lvl 19 Mage. As always (must be the 6:th time I'm facing him) it turned out to be an epic and really exciting battle - and they all turn out completely differently depending on the char as well. This was the first time with (an almost) pure Mage and my first approach didn't work out at all as he continuously cast Dispel and Silence, making Spell buffs pointless and Spell casting constantly frustrated. So she focused on upping Resist Magic, which stopped (almost) all his spells. But it was a close call anyway - took me three loads to finally best him. Probably my favorite boss in any game ever. R.I.P. Ancient Lord Volmyr.

BTW, Lvl 19 means Ivy has the 2:nd place of my chars when it comes to defeating Volmyr on the lowest level. My Lvl 15 Spellsword char Eve is the reigning champion.

» Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:26 pm

I started the Path of Iron quest. I touched the claymore, and read the diary. How do I become able to pick up the rest of the armor?

» Mon Jan 31, 2011 2:43 pm

I started the Path of Iron quest. I touched the claymore, and read the diary. How do I become able to pick up the rest of the armor?

After reading the diary, return to the grave and activate the claymore again.

» Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:20 pm

After reading the diary, return to the grave and activate the claymore again.

According to the diary,

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the gauntlets are in Fingerbowl cave. I've looked all around the cave, and I don't see the Heaven's Fury gauntlets.

» Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:46 pm

According to the diary,

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the gauntlets are in Fingerbowl cave. I've looked all around the cave, and I don't see the Heaven's Fury gauntlets.

They are in the http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Fingerbowl_Cave, in an alcove in the wall (close to the B on the map).

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 12:43 am

I completed the quest, and now I'm getting a message saying that I won't get Molag Bal's favor. Does this mean I can't do Hermaeus Mora's quest?

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 12:47 am

I completed the quest, and now I'm getting a message saying that I won't get Molag Bal's favor. Does this mean I can't do Hermaeus Mora's quest?

Exactly. You can't do both. If you go back earlier in the thread you'll find some tips on how to almost do both (basically, don't finish the Heaven's Fury quest - so you won't have the Claymore).

» Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:25 pm

Review this thread as there's been a lot of discussion on the same topic.

» Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:09 pm

Ok, so you can't. Which svcks. I mean you can fail all of the other daedric quests and still get a shot at doing Hermaeus Mora.

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 12:46 am

I mean you can fail all of the other daedric quests and still get a shot at doing Hermaeus Mora.

I have only done Hermaeus Mora once, but what do you mean? I thought the completion of all other Daedric quests was a prerequisite for doing Hermaeus Mora.

» Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:24 pm

Ok, so you can't. Which svcks. I mean you can fail all of the other daedric quests and still get a shot at doing Hermaeus Mora.

Although I understand the frustration, since A Path of Iron is a long and difficult quest, it's also about roleplay choice. This quest offers gears and weapon to paladins. Molag Bal's quest forces you to have a paladin renounce his vow never to swing a weapon again and then commit suicide. Not very "paladinish"

@Arkngt: IIRC, you can screw up Molag Bal's quest by killing the paladin, instead of having him kill you, which results in you being teleported back to Molag Ball's shrine. Even if you screw up, you will be able to do Hermaeus Mora's quest.

» Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:13 pm

@Arkngt: IIRC, you can screw up Molag Bal's quest by killing the paladin, instead of having him kill you, which results in you being teleported back to Molag Ball's shrine. Even if you screw up, you will be able to do Hermaeus Mora's quest.

Aha. Seems like something that the UOP should address.

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:02 am

Aha. Seems like something that the UOP should address.

Not really. Remember that Path of Iron is not a vanilla quest.

» Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:58 pm

Not really. Remember that Path of Iron is not a vanilla quest.

But Molag Bal is - and I thought the bug (or exploit rather) was connected to that as that was what Dazu wrote about.

Also, if it's connected to Path of Iron, it should be addressed in the next OOO release rather.

And of course I know that Path of Iron is an OOO quest. :rolleyes:

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:11 am

Although I understand the frustration, since A Path of Iron is a long and difficult quest, it's also about roleplay choice. This quest offers gears and weapon to paladins. Molag Bal's quest forces you to have a paladin renounce his vow never to swing a weapon again and then commit suicide. Not very "paladinish"

He doesn't commit suicide when you successfully complete his quest.

My PC's the Divine Crusader as well as the Gray Fox and Listener of the Dark Brotherhood. (And in a previous playthrough, Leader of the Mythic Dawn when I had that Servant of The Dawn quest mod installed) I don't particulary care about roleplay.

Apparently, I do have a shot at doing Mora's quest. I checked the journal entry that you get when you complete Path Of Iron's questline (The one that says the paladin died and Molag Bal won't favor me but I gained the trust of the nine) in the CS and I saw this little tidbit in the result script.

set DAHermaeusMora.questcount to ( DAHermaeusMora.questcount + 1 )

I'm satisfied.

» Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:50 pm

Apparently, I do have a shot at doing Mora's quest. I checked the journal entry that you get when you complete Path Of Iron's questline (The one that says the paladin died and Molag Bal won't favor me but I gained the trust of the nine) in the CS and I saw this little tidbit in the result script.

set DAHermaeusMora.questcount to ( DAHermaeusMora.questcount + 1 )

I'm satisfied.

Hm, that would mean that we've been wrong in this thread for a long time, as we've said that finishing the Path of Iron quest means that you can't do the Hermaeus Mora quest either (as you can't do Molag Bal's).

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 6:23 am

Hm, that would mean that we've been wrong in this thread for a long time, as we've said that finishing the Path of Iron quest means that you can't do the Hermaeus Mora quest either (as you can't do Molag Bal's).

Not necesseraly. Is this what happens when you complete A Path of Iron without starting Molag Bal's quest? Or is this the result of completing A Path of Iron when you had Molag Bal's quest in your journal? It could be interesting to know if there is a difference.

@Professor Vertex: I don't mind completing everything too. It gives me a feeling of unlimited power. I control all the guilds, I'm the "guardian" of all the artefacts, none can oppose my power because I have everything that can be a minor threat to my uberness :rock:

bliviongate:

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:39 am

Not necesseraly. Is this what happens when you complete A Path of Iron without starting Molag Bal's quest? Or is this the result of completing A Path of Iron when you had Molag Bal's quest in your journal? It could be interesting to know if there is a difference.

I asked Eloise how it's set up and this is her answer regarding the possibility to do Path of Iron and still be able to do Hermaeus Mora:

What you have to do is get the quest from Molag Bal first, then go to Melus's place and start the Path of Iron. As long as you then complete Path of Iron without goading Melus into attacking you, or otherwise getting him killed, once you complete the Path of Iron, you should get a journal update saying something like "Melus died when I completed Path of Iron, so I can no longer do Molag Bal's quest". It is this update, and only this update, that increases the quest count for Hermaeus Mora.

The key points are: you need to start Molag Bal's quest before you start Path of Iron, you need to complete Path of Iron without completing Molag Bal's quest, and Melus needs to stay alive until you complete Path of Iron.

» Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:47 pm

Regarding Slavers and Smugglers, is the quest unfinished or just buggy?
Also, it it possible to side with the Slavers?

» Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:43 pm

Regarding Slavers and Smugglers, is the quest unfinished or just buggy?
Also, it it possible to side with the Slavers?

It's finished AFAIK and not sure how buggy it is as I've only done it once a long time ago. And, yes, you're supposed to be able to side with the Slavers. That's the general idea with questline AFAIK - to be able to choose two different routes. It's the OOO questlineI know least about so not much help on specifics.

If you find bugs, please give details as we're working on the next OOO release as we speak.

» Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:40 pm

So... Either I'm missing out on something obvious, or some other way to go about it... But do I really HAVE to steal the damn dragonclaw from Rohssan's private quarters?
It feels stupid, to be a noble breton battlemage, running around with a stolen sword... Or is there some way of clearing the stolen mark on it?

» Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:56 pm

So... Either I'm missing out on something obvious, or some other way to go about it... But do I really HAVE to steal the damn dragonclaw from Rohssan's private quarters?
It feels stupid, to be a noble breton battlemage, running around with a stolen sword... Or is there some way of clearing the stolen mark on it?

There's only one of it so you got to steal it if you want it. To get rid of the stolen mark, you can either sell it to a fence and buy it back or enchant it. But, basically, not that fitting for noble chars I guess.

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 1:39 am

There's only one of it so you got to steal it if you want it. To get rid of the stolen mark, you can either sell it to a fence and buy it back or enchant it. But, basically, not that fitting for noble chars I guess.

Uh, really?

I can easily sell it, and then pay double for it. This was exactly the kind of answer I was looking for, thanks again!