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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 2:54 am

Actually it's what I am most interested in. Pre-War Germany was a big number before the bombs dropped. Plenty of weaponry and tech comes from germany. As far as I remember they even had their own vault system and some places are still intact.

Would love to see a DLC placed in europe. How does the hero get there? Well we have operational verti-birds. Those could "jump" between oil tankers, cargo-ships and rigs in order to cross the ocean.

Also the whole european content could fill a complete game at ease. Dun dun dun: Welcome to Fallout 8! (I don't expect it any sooner)

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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 11:16 pm

A few US bombs veered off course and hit the Korean peninsula. All life forms terminated.

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 6:25 am

Anything actually outside of the US should be a spinoff- Focusing on the Resource wars and the aftermath of them.
The apocalypse pretty much happened for much of the world during the 2050's, so by 2060 civilization in many places was dead.

It think it would be a dis-service to potentially great storylines to base gameplay in another country post great war, without exploring the Resource wars.
The question for me isn't if anyone outside of the US made it through the great war. It is so, at least in some capacity.
The question for me is in wondering what happened to the Rest of the world, throughout the 2050's and 2060's.
The UN disbanded. Nuclear exchanges occur in the Middle east. The EU (or its equivalent) dissolves and everyone runs out of oil, all before nuclear energy is looked looked into for alternative fuel sources- in the US, which closed it's borders in 2052.
What went down in the rest of the world before the great war? There's the story I want to play out.

From there, it could be determined what factions, in Europe say, made it some place safe when the great war happened.
I don't necessarily think it would be "the" government, (given how chaotic everything would have been when the resource wars hit) even if the factions are founded on the ashes of the government and/or military.
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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 1:13 am

Because

A. Europe is a bigger dump, and they want to live in something not as much of a dump

B. Europe has no way of knowing whats on the other side of the country, nor does anyone in D.C. besides the BoS for that matter. They cant move to someplace they have no idea exists.

Because that is not supported by any information we have, and directly countered by what information we do know.

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:27 am

Keep also in mind that a lot of British Male Actors during the 'Golden' age of Hollywood more or less adopted a faux American accent when they went on to Star in movies. (and there were quite a few from England). Whilst Tenpenny was not an actor he may of felt the need to adapt his accent more to his location.

The best way also to view how other countries suffered is to check a Weather map for wind pattern during October in the Northern Hemisphere. Watch where the wind tracks and travels and you can more or less track where the Radiation is going to go and collect. (Whilst Im in the Southern Hemisphere pound for pound the Northern Hemisphere would of copped it more from the Great War)

And no.. not everyone in Europe would have died. England has deep cavernous bunkers built for WW2 as part of its Tube system (hell they are even finding unknown tunnels never recorded properly even today). Most countries would also have bunkers for their leaders. I just have a feeling that nobody went the Vault tec route with encased structures and so on.

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 9:27 am


Europe is such a dump compared to the Capital Wasteland that its capable of supporting a reliable line of communication across the Atlantic Ocean but the Capital Wasteland's connections barely extend to eastern Canada and North Carolina.

Fallout 3 logic in a nutshell.
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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 8:50 am

There are actually quite a few of these bunkers in Central London, such as the one shown http://www.iwm.org.uk/exhibitions/churchill-war-rooms/cabinet-war-rooms, although I'm not aware of too many in the rest of the UK. Saying that, other major cities such as Manchester also have their own underground rail network, and so would have been able to offer a certain level of protection to those lucky enough to make it inside.

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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 8:33 pm

Germany has many bunkers too. Mostly because Germany was split and the main front of the cold war. Here are many bunkers in Hamburg and even some railway stations are in fact bunkers. We even have some WW2 bunkers which are still intact because it was impossible to destroy them (they tried it but failed...).

http://www.ffhsh.de/en/film_commission/location_guide/Locations/127198/Luftschutzbunker?

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 6:55 am

Who says it has lines of communication, or that they are reliable? Stop making things up.

Also

>Implying no one ever went to America when it was just that rumored far off place with nothing but relatively primitive people living in it.

That's actually how everyone who founded the country got here.

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 1:17 am


"Allistair Tenpenny came to the Capital Wasteland from Great Britain to seek his fortune, so that alone tells you that the U.K. was also hit in the war. And if he came to U.S. to succeed, that says a lot about how screwed up Europe must be. So we just allude, a little bit, to the state of the rest of the world. We like to leave a lot to the players' imaginations, and somebody like Tenpenny serves as a catalyst for those thoughts."

This says nothing about anything unless Emil thinks Tenpenny could have an accurate way to compare the US to Europe before he went there.
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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 10:26 am

Or, you know, they are playing off of the "America is the promised land" thing, which would make sense given how American-centric the series is.

Everywhere is worse then MERICA!, for the simple fact it isn't MERCIA!. This is true of the pre-war Fallout world, and the post war one as well.

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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 8:31 pm


Indeed but then if Tenpenny's decision to immigrate was based on stories not facts then his decision to immigrate wouldn't actually tell us anything about the state of Europe as compared to America would it?

I should note I don't think this was actually meant to imply reliable transatlantic information flow simply that Emil didn't think through how these things would work in a world like Fallout's.
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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:52 am

If the US is the "Promised Land" as above stated, why then, would England not wish to invade? I mean is it not possible that since Tenpenny left the UK that some borderline Anarchistic form of regality has been established and is now trying to imperialize? I think it would at least make a decent DLC.

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 2:06 am

a number of rail tunnels in Europe still have the side bunkers they built into them for the Railroad Artilery everyone was building or already had back then.

Sidney I think still has a fairly massive undergroun tunnel complex under it that dates to WWII

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 7:50 am

England could have rebuilt better than the US so an invasion is possible.

Maybe Colin etc came over the sea alongside spies or are spies themselves
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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 9:30 pm

Remember Dukov he is russian i think?

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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 9:20 pm

Dukov is probably from that region/slavic. We never really find out.

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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 6:46 pm

nearly everyone in Britain would have died, 64 million people living in an area about the size of Florida would course huge casualtys in any nuclear war and once you add in the resource war/fall of the European commonwealth which probably had a war with France (we like fighting France ) id be surprised if more than a few 1000 made it.

Now off down the rabbit hole. Britain is an island and we are famous for seafaring so British ship born raiders (vikings) is likely and since myths of a promised land of riches over the waters (the old USA) are likely you could have British in the wasteland (the Danes got to Canada). If you presume their is a government in Britain (probably a high king) and things of value have been found in the old USA a invasion is possible but think more viking invasion of England not an organized land grab

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 2:50 am

In terms of strategy, what remains of the British will likely be focused on closer landmasses. Furthermore, lacking targets, I doubt many places outside of the larger Cities and Conurbations would get bombed. If parts of DC survived, you can be damn sure that the UK fared better due to the sheer amount of disused infrastructure that remains throughout the country.

In terms of plausibility, the UK would either be tribalistic (high king fits that concept) or a hardened, organised and militaristic faction that houses most of the science and technology left over from the war (kinda like the BoS or Enclave). Ethics wise, like I said, closer targets would be more useful, and the surrounding islands would make exquisite defensive bases, not to mention old Sea Forts or Oil Rigs.

People are always so quick to put Britain down in the event of a catastrophe, but they have no idea about the scope and breadth of our history, only parts of our old Empire and Colonies. This country has been built to defend against multiple invasions over thousands of years. The situation would no doubt wipe out most of the populace, but that's true of the WHOLE WORLD including the United States, as is stated in the Fallout games themselves.

As for survival bunkers and the like, it is assumed that Vault-Tec are the only ones who have made nuclear holocaust proof shelters. This doesn't rule out similar schemes worldwide, nor does it acknowledge the bunkers most countries already have.

How many times has the United States been invaded by an enemy army in the last 200 years? In fact, how many times has it EVER been invaded? Most US Bunkers are for VIPs, not as shoreline defense networks.

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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 11:56 pm

Now I want to see a post-war Europe...

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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 10:18 pm

Actually I'm really doubt limited nuclear missiles are able to destroy each and every inch of a country, not to mention all countries over the world. There must be some places are completely intact and not affected by the Great War at all. I'm really hope we can travel to those places...

and destroy them :devil:

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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 10:56 pm

Have you guys never played RISK?. Attempting to hold Europe is a lost cause.

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 9:29 am

I really, really, hope there will be no civil war quests, much less it having any part in the main story line. I want more FO lore, not actual history. Better to add something about the war with China, if anything.

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 7:48 am

I was a B-52 aircraft commander in Strategic Air Command. I've seen the projected effects of a full scale nuclear exchange between the US and Soviet Union circa late 1980s.

Nothing east of the Mississippi lives and very little to the west of it. Maybe a few scattered pockets in some very remote areas out west.

I would expect similar levels of devastation in Europe and Russia. My alert missions would have had us putting the third or fourth warhead on any given target. We'd have been "bouncing the rubble".

The best hope for survival would probably be the Southern Hemisphere.

Of course Fallout is a game and they can make create any scenario they want.

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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 7:09 pm

1. While Tennpenny has in no way a 'British' accent or any of the regional or national accents, his accent is still superior to the Saints Row 'English' accent.

2. Is it ever stated how Tennpenny supposedly made the trip from the UK.

If it wasn't lore that Tennpenny had made the trip I'd call it nonsense and put him down as a rich eccentric with a tall tale about his supposed origins.

On the British invading Boston......why?

While the whole Independence thing is big thing in US history, its pretty much a footnote in European history and if the UK still exists in some form (perhaps as a group of islands) I doubt there is a lot of interest for the survivors in crossing the atlantic to conquer the US......but in the end its up to Bethesda if survivors from another country invade the US.

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