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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 8:04 am

No, though it was most likely by boat.

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 9:16 am

There are indications that there may have been minor divergences going as far back as the 1600's but the major divergence from our universe occurred at the end of WWII in 1945.

Little is officially known of world history in the Fallout Universe after WWII, but we do have some general knowledge. There was a European Commonwealth of which the UK was a member. In 2052 the European Commonwealth-Middle East War started. This war lasted until 2060 when the Middle East oilfields ran dry and the European Commonwealth broke up and started to fight among themselves.

The Resource Wars, like the name implies was a series of wars. These wars started with the European Commonwealth-Middle East oil war, continued with the European Civil War, the Sino-American War, the Annexation of Canada, etc. The Resource Wars did not end until the Great War.

Basically, the world had already been at war for 25 years before the nukes fell. Europe was at war with itself for 17 years. The whole world was pretty much shot up before the Great War. The point is, that there would be no invasion coming from Europe. Before any European "nation" would want to start a war on the other side of the Atlantic, they would want to ensure that enemies closer to home are under control.

Now this does not preclude a military expedition from Europe, but it would be small scale with a purpose similar to the Brotherhood of Steel's purpose for going to the East Coast. In short, any European military presence in North America would be basically be for scavenging. England/Great Britain/United Kingdom/British Empire/whatever was left by the Divergence and Great War would be a likely candidate for such an expedition because by their nature they seafarers, even more so than any other European "nation".

As for Tenpenny being from England or not. I do not know if it is specifically referenced in game. A game designer has gone on record as saying he is from Great Britain. One thing about his form of dress. I will bet dollars to donuts that he acquired his clothes locally. I seriously doubt that before he left Merry Old England that he packed up a couple of steamer trunks with his Retired English Gentleman Adventurer outfits and didn't start wearing them until he actually became a Retired English Gentleman Adventurer.

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 9:27 am

Robotic reeanactors gone loose and some random dude taking advantage
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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 12:37 am

Which would make them US robots and a probable American random dude.

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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 10:00 pm

Regarding this, I've always felt like a probable route to North America would be taking the "long way" around. North to Scotland, on to Iceland, then to Greenland, and Canada and South towards the US. Sure, you'd have to navigate through the Arctic Circle, but I feel as if the oceans aren't exactly safe, so the less time spent on them, the better.

Then again, you'd burn through more supplies on the long way, and I doubt there would be much by way of supplies through Greenland and the like. Plus that US base would definitely have been bombed, so I don't expect much left.

Meh, getting to the US is the least of our concerns. I'd be more preoccupied with our "neighbours" and the prospect of the Enclave showing up in Vertibirds.

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 1:55 am

Makes me wonder how places like Africa, Australia, Indonesia and the like are doing. Especially Africa, seems like Africa always manages to mind their own business when it comes to world wars.

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 4:39 am

Africa and Australia are already pretty much the same as Fallout... They're probably thriving. Haha.

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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 6:46 pm


Watch mad max then your get the general idea how their doing.
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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 1:24 am

Especially if all you have is Ukraine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzLtF_PxbYw

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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 10:25 pm

Just do what I do, untill provenotherwise in game assume they have been nuked to ash.

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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 7:18 pm

No. I'm an American Revolutionary War history buff and I do not want this in Fallout 4. Keep this stuff for American Revolution games. I'm playing fallout, set in 2277, not 1776. If I want to play an American Revolution themed game I will play one.

Minor references are fine. If the minutemen are done correctly, they'd be a faction that based their name off the minutemen. What Bethesda might do wrong, as they did in Fallout 3, is to make these factions actually seem like they are living in 1776. The Underground NPCs' dialogue in Fallout 3 could be set in a game in the 1850s if you change a few words.

I don't like the legion because they seem ridiculous, but their backstory flows logically. Caesar picked a culture to follow and the result is a synergy of post war and roman culture.

I'd like this quest if it was in the game. It would make for a fun reference.

Judging by what we've seen, with the ghoul in the tricorn and red unifor,, Beth is going to go the F3 route and make revolutionary war reenactors still in uniform 200 years after the war. More awful writing from Emil if it were the case.

It's pretty similar to the Chinese ghoul soldiers in Mama Dulce's in F3. One of the worst locations in the game. For 200 years, those soldiers did nothing but stand around?! They really should have developed something like the Shi in San Francisco.

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 7:30 am

if much is left of England is left /rebuilt id say yes they would attack or raid Europe first but stay near the sea where they feel more at home, if you look at maps of Europe most good looting spots are on the coast or navigable rivers (Rhine and Sean for example) so viking style raids are likely. If we stick to a viking style culture second sons or lesser standing warriors would go beyond the normal raiding areas and that's how they got to Greenland, Iceland and later (in far few numbers) Canada to prove themselves or so they could keep the loot (they had to give a cut to the guy above them).

you could even say English raiders/settlers arrived in Canada around 2200 and built a colony (a mix of them and Canadians ) and are raiding down the coast, by the 2270's you could have a group of raider kings all over the Atlantic maybe even a high king who as some control (or influence) over the others.

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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 11:52 pm


This is my biggest worry about the game. I think they've even said Boston was chosen partly because of it's rich history.

I half expect when we load the game, we'll first see the standard Nvidia screen, followed by "Made in association with the Boston Tourist Office"
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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 8:17 am

i agree id not like a big revolutionary war story line mostly because it would not fit and be hard to do in away that makes sense, a few redcoated ghouls can be overlooked but not a faction

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